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klapauzius
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(11-14-2012, 02:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Heavy

I don't think those synergies are as significant as you think. Also don't think Japan would really care about that stuff. I'm skeptical of Wii U's success in Japan. I figure it'll have a really nice start and then taper off considerably until next Fall.

Based on what facts?
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Tenki

You can guess which console is yellow and which one is blue (Media Create sales):

You are being slightly generous to vita there
AdventureRacing
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(11-14-2012, 02:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Aostia

Long post

It really just comes down to what big games nintendo has lined up for next year. It has enough to start off strong but they will need a strong line-up next year to keep things moving.
Canis lupus
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(11-14-2012, 02:34 PM)
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Holy shit at 3DS and Vita sales!
Hammer24
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(11-14-2012, 02:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by AdventureRacing

I've said this so many times but this line of thought simply doesn't make sense any more. The 3DS's biggest competition is coming from smartphones and tablets, it doesn't matter if the vita is canned tomorrow the 3DS will still have heaps of competition.

This is true, but not my point. Im arguing from a dev standpoint. And for a dev its still two different markets if you develop for a fleshed out handheld with higher dev costs and higher game prices; or small phone/tablet games.

It's not as if the consumer really had a tough time when the PS1 or PS2 were dominating either. If anything having an extremely healthy dominant platform seems to be great for the development of quality games.

In the ongoing generation, yes, absolutely.
But what happens in the next? Will Ninty get as complacent as Sony got aftre PS1/2? No one knows, but Id argue its always a risk that the clearcut winner might want to rest on the laurels.
djplaeskool
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(11-14-2012, 02:35 PM)
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It's not going to get much better for Vita through the holidays.
The next batch fairly steady software releases does't start until the end of January.
...and even then, it's comprised of mostly niche titles. Cool by me, but niche users alone can't sustain this thing.
MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by djplaeskool

It's not going to get much better for Vita through the holidays.
The next batch fairly steady software releases does't start until the end of January.

Right before DQ7.
Phazon
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(11-14-2012, 02:36 PM)
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Also don't forget that next year we'll really see the effect of canceled development for Vita games and the switch to 3DS games. (a lot of Japanese devs did it a while ago, according to some sources)
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:37 PM)
I'd be shocked if vita even manages 20k in any of the holiday weeks
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 02:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

This is true, depending on if they used the 4gb standard cartridge or the supposed 8gb cartridges unless those were only rumored to be in use.

Shouldn't FF Type 0 be a good fit for the 4GB cartridge? Unless they decide to add lots of bonuses.
Kazerei
(11-14-2012, 02:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by allan-bh

No, 200k is the number of downloads from eShop (includes retail download card apparently.)

200k is also the number of downloads, but I think 200k is the number of extra shipments, too.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499437
demidar
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(11-14-2012, 02:37 PM)
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Is Japan really into actual tablets? If not, then Wii U could have enough novelty to really extent the tail of its sales. But since Wii U is completely different from every previous console (except maybe the Dreamcast, hah) it's pretty hard to pin down what will happen. I still think it will sell the most in the next generation though simply because I think we've hit the point of 'good enough' for the masses.
tmarques
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(11-14-2012, 02:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2012 (Nov 05 - Nov 11)


03./00. [360] Halo 4 # <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2012.11.08} (7.140) - 39.312 / NEW

07./00. [PS3] Silent Hill: Downpour <ADV> (Konami) {2012.11.08} (6.980) - 13.516 / NEW

If this doesn't tell Konami something's wrong...
Heavy
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(11-14-2012, 02:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by klapauzius

Based on what facts?

I've partnered with Famitsu to conduct a survey of over 30,000 prospective Wii U owners in Japan and the resu- obviously it's just a hunch, the same can be said about those features being significant. Other consoles have had global IDs and lots of other online functionality for years and that didn't help resurrect the console market over there, so I don't think those factors will help the Wii U. The software, as is usually the case, will be the driving factor. Mario, Pokemon, DQ, whatever they can churn out.
Aostia
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(11-14-2012, 02:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by nickcv

i literally chuckled XD

LOL ;p


Originally Posted by Chris1964

Yes


Oh, you...


MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Shouldn't FF Type 0 be a good fit for the 4GB cartridge? Unless they decide to add lots of bonuses.

4gb cartridge will work fine. The game itself was only 3.21 gb.

Extra stuff can easily be added. The bulk of the space was really the cg stuff.
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 02:40 PM)
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I find it hilarious that a few people on GAF still insist that the 3DS isn't "doing well." It's doing fine. It only looks bad when compared to the insane GBA/DS sales, those of which we will never see again.
MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

I find it hilarious that a few people on GAF still insist that the 3DS isn't "doing well."

Nintendo is doomed. Despite outselling everything in Japan outside of iOS.
Aostia
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(11-14-2012, 02:41 PM)
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18./12. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience W <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.10.18} (4.980) - 5.695 / 118.767 (-42%)

Do you think guys that the 3DS episode could really sell better than this, at the end?
It started better, but seems to have a weaker weekly rhythm..
Heavy
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(11-14-2012, 02:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

I find it hilarious that a few people on GAF still insist that the 3DS isn't "doing well."

Are you referring to me? Instead of being passive aggressive, just say so. I didn't say it wasn't dominating Japan. If that wasn't meant for me, nvm.
Boss Doggie
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(11-14-2012, 02:42 PM)
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I found a pic fitting this week

axisofweevils
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(11-14-2012, 02:42 PM)
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Wow at those 3DS numbers.
OldJadedGamer
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(11-14-2012, 02:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by John Dunbar

those animal crossing figures don't include the download cards, correct? are those cheaper than just buying the game? i should hope so, though you never know with nintendo.

The resale market is huge in Japan so buying digital you give up your reselling rights.
AndrewDean84xX
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(11-14-2012, 02:43 PM)
Didn't Assassins Creed III Lady Liberty come out in Japan last week, or is it this week?
djplaeskool
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(11-14-2012, 02:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

I find it hilarious that a few people on GAF still insist that the 3DS isn't "doing well." It's doing fine. It only looks bad when compared to the insane GBA/DS sales, those of which we will never see again.

It's doing great in Japan, but Nintendo needs it to do better elsewhere.
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 02:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Heavy

Are you referring to me? Instead of being passive aggressive, just say so. I didn't say it wasn't dominating Japan. If that wasn't meant for me, nvm.

Actually, no. I didn't recall you feeling that way. I was referring to other people in the last NPD thread.
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 02:44 PM)
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Chris, a question: when will you release the brand new database?
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:45 PM)

Originally Posted by AndrewDean84xX

Didn't Assassins Creed III Lady Liberty come out in Japan last week, or is it this week?

Tomorrow
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 02:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by djplaeskool

It's doing great in Japan, but Nintendo needs it to do better elsewhere.

It IS doing well elsewhere. I don't get why people say otherwise. It also only has one holiday season, where at this point in its lifespan DS had two.

As always, games will be the key to continuing the success.
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Aostia

18./12. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience W <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.10.18} (4.980) - 5.695 / 118.767 (-42%)

Do you think guys that the 3DS episode could really sell better than this, at the end?
It started better, but seems to have a weaker weekly rhythm..

Yes the 3ds game will sell better when all is said and done, its still in the chart (well it was 35 last week, I guess we'll still see it when we get the top 50) more than 4 months after release
Last edited by frankie_baby; 11-14-2012 at 02:53 PM.
Ragus
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(11-14-2012, 02:46 PM)
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GAF remind me, does Nintendo still sell 3DS with loss or not?
MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:46 PM)
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So which AC will do better?

Originally Posted by Ragus

GAF remind me, does Nintendo still sell 3DS with loss or not?

I don't think they do anymore.
AndrewDean84xX
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(11-14-2012, 02:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Plinko

Actually, no. I didn't recall you feeling that way. I was referring to other people in the last NPD thread.

Well, to be fair, the 3DS isn't exactly hot in NA, like it is in Japan. But it's not a cold fish like the Vita either though.
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 02:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ragus

GAF remind me, does Nintendo still sell 3DS with loss or not?

Not anymore.
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 02:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ragus

GAF remind me, does Nintendo still sell 3DS with loss or not?

No--they said it crossed into profit territory earlier this year.
enishi
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(11-14-2012, 02:48 PM)

Originally Posted by hiska-kun

But the Best version releases tomorrow, so what's that?

Original wording from Famitsu
モンスターハンター3(トライ)G パック【カプコン】 3DS アクション 2012年11月01日
21800円[税込]

From the price, it should be the 3DS LL Black bundled with MH3G (digital)
AndrewDean84xX
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(11-14-2012, 02:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Ragus

GAF remind me, does Nintendo still sell 3DS with loss or not?

I'm positive that they stopped taking a loss before the XL launched. The XL never took a loss.
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 02:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by AndrewDean84xX

Well, to be fair, the 3DS isn't exactly hot in NA, like it is in Japan. But it's not a cold fish like the Vita either though.

"Hot?" No. But it's still selling well and at a great pace compared with the original DS/GBA and in a market oversaturated with mobile devices, something the GBA/DS didn't have to deal with.

We'll never see another game handheld reach GBA/DS sales levels.
AranhaHunter
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(11-14-2012, 02:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Chris1964

Yes

Why did you purposely not answer his question? Seems a little weird, to say the least.

Anyways, the vita is as good as dead in Japan, there's nothing in the pipeline before the end of the year that will change its fortunes in Japan. Hell there's nothing in the pipeline next year that will change its fortunes either.
Relaxed Muscle
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(11-14-2012, 02:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

I find it hilarious that a few people on GAF still insist that the 3DS isn't "doing well." It's doing fine. It only looks bad when compared to the insane GBA/DS sales, those of which we will never see again.

Is doing well in Japan, in the rest of the world, not so well...
Dizastah
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(11-14-2012, 02:51 PM)
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I love my Vita but it's done........and Sony could care less. At least Nintendo saw 3DS wasn't selling and decided to drop the price drastically. Sony is just like, 'screw it, let it burn'. No one is going to make software for a system that sells like this unless Sony moneyhats.
AndrewDean84xX
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(11-14-2012, 02:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle

Is doing well in Japan, in the rest of the world, not so well...

That's an understatement.
manueldelalas
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(11-14-2012, 02:52 PM)

Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

It doesn't look VITA will support 4k much longer...
Ragus
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(11-14-2012, 02:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by manueldelalas

It doesn't look VITA will support 4k much longer...

1080p is the most it can do
nickcv
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(11-14-2012, 02:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Nintendo is doomed. Despite outselling everything in World Wide including iOS.

fixed
AranhaHunter
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(11-14-2012, 02:56 PM)

Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Nintendo is doomed. Despite outselling everything in Japan outside of iOS.

Got a source that the 3DS sells more than android devices in Japan? I would be interested in seeing such stats.

Originally Posted by nickcv

fixed

:lol
Claymores
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(11-14-2012, 02:56 PM)
Vita is well and truely screwed now, after next week it doesn't really have any new releases until well into next year, I can see it sinking into the 1-2k mark even in the christmas period.
MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by nickcv

fixed

Glad I am wrong then. More power to me. If you can prove it that is.

Nintendo had a good plan it would seem.

The plan of do something over Sony's do nothing.
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Ragus

1080p is the most it can do

Maybe come February
wrowa
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(11-14-2012, 02:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by nickcv

fixed

Yeah, how about no. Nintendo is not outselling iPhones and iPads world wide.

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