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nickcv
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(11-14-2012, 06:28 PM)
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http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2ZKQWD...edibly-quickly

"All I can say is that the response has been phenomenal and we're getting, especially in the higher priced deluxe set, that one's selling out incredibly quickly. That seems to indicate that the pricing's in a good spot and the proof is in the consumer response," Moffitt remarked in an interview to be published in full tomorrow.


"Certainly we've seen brisk pre-sales and that the phone calls have been coming into our headquarters for quite a while now asking for more and so we do expect high demand. But I can tell you this - on opening week we will have more systems on hand for the Wii U than we did for the launch of Wii. And, second, our replenishments will be more frequent this holiday time than during the Wii launch," Moffitt noted.

in before artificial shortages
Dunlop
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(11-14-2012, 06:30 PM)
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PR to explain why there will be stock on the shelves?
GoldenEye 007
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(11-14-2012, 06:31 PM)
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Well I guess their advertising is working well enough.
Karuto
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(11-14-2012, 06:32 PM)
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Pretending that the Wii shortage wasn't intentional...
IceDoesntHelp
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(11-14-2012, 06:32 PM)
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Nintendo Fanboys Assemble!
Miles X
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(11-14-2012, 06:34 PM)
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Interesting, they're forecasting 5.5m end of March, but Wii did 5.84m, yet they expect more this holiday season? Either they're underestimating or they're getting more of that Q1 stock in this holiday.
nickcv
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(11-14-2012, 06:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dynopia

Interesting, they're forecasting 5.5m end of March, but Wii did 5.84m, yet they expect more this holiday season? Either they're underestimating or they're getting more of that Q1 stock in this holiday.

maybe they just placed differently their stock, sending more to the USA.
mantidor
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(11-14-2012, 06:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Karuto

Pretending that the Wii shortage wasn't intentional...

It begins.


People don't actually believe this nonsense right? I mean, right?
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 06:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by mantidor

It begins.


People don't actually believe this nonsense right? I mean, right?

I've been stunned at how often I've seen this idea both here and at CAG. It's ridiculous.
Bisnic
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(11-14-2012, 06:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by mantidor

It begins.


People don't actually believe this nonsense right? I mean, right?

Some People still believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy, of course people will believe anything.
Dantis
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dunlop

PR to explain why there will be stock on the shelves?

This was my first thought.

I haven't heard anyone even mention the Wii U, though I do live in the UK.

Perhaps it's more visible in the US and Japan, I dunno.
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
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Quick response to the Guillemot press about price and rumblings about intentional under stocking. NOA has been keeping their noses close to the ground this time around.


Originally Posted by IceDoesntHelp

Nintendo Fanboys Assemble!

The bullshit is off to an early start I see.
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

I've been stunned at how often I've seen this idea both here and at CAG. It's ridiculous.

The idea that companies create intentional shortages to fan the flames of demand is ridiculous?
Ultima_5
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by mantidor

It begins.


People don't actually believe this nonsense right? I mean, right?

Why wouldn't they create a shortage? It increases demand.

It's like the first thing you learn in any economics class
ScreenSplitter
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by mantidor

It begins.


People don't actually believe this nonsense right? I mean, right?

It's totally reasonable a company would ignore thousands of sales just for a bit of media buzz. you're just not thinking clearly bud.
grimshawish
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
Nintendo did price the 3DS based on 'responses' :p
I do think their surprised at how many people are willing to pay for the best version despite the price though.

Good to hear the replenishment rate will be good. I think thats the main thing that changed post 2006; just sorted out their production, stock and delivery to a tee. Its a flow now.
IceDoesntHelp
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(11-14-2012, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by freddy

The bullshit is off to an early start I see.

Hey! I'm not trying to do any harm son.
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 06:40 PM)

Originally Posted by mantidor

It begins.


People don't actually believe this nonsense right? I mean, right?

Sadly many people do and i don't think any amount of evidence will ever change their minds
UltraMagnanimous
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(11-14-2012, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dynopia

Interesting, they're forecasting 5.5m end of March, but Wii did 5.84m, yet they expect more this holiday season? Either they're underestimating or they're getting more of that Q1 stock in this holiday.

Or demand has been higher than expected and they will need to re-forecast?
PhantomR
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(11-14-2012, 06:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Karuto

Pretending that the Wii shortage wasn't intentional...


freddy
(11-14-2012, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by IceDoesntHelp

Hey! I'm not trying to do any harm son.

I'm not your son. Keep the condescending crap out of it as well.
Karuto
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(11-14-2012, 06:41 PM)
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To give an impression that it is an extremely hot item. That way, it creates that demand that spreads out for many months. It's the law of supply and demand, as any Marketing student would know. As supply goes down, demand goes up. As supply goes up, demand goes down. It's intentional.
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Karuto

Pretending that the Wii shortage wasn't intentional...

Summoning JJS right now.
IceDoesntHelp
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(11-14-2012, 06:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by freddy

I'm not your son. Keep the condescending crap out of it as well.

Lol, okay mister.
Chiggs
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(11-14-2012, 06:42 PM)
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Good to know that the stock is decent; although, that certainly puts a damper on those trying to sell it for a grand on eBay.
Karsticles
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(11-14-2012, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ultima_5

Why wouldn't they create a shortage? It increases demand.

It's like the first thing you learn in any economics class

Do you know why increased demand is helpful for a business? It means they can increase prices.

A console has a MSRP, and it's not going to go up. Nintendo sells their systems at a constant rate, they don't benefit at all from people selling their system on ebay for a thousand dollars.
Shalashaska161
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(11-14-2012, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ultima_5

Why wouldn't they create a shortage? It increases demand.

It's like the first thing you learn in any economics class

Demand doesn't help you if you don't have any consoles to sell.

Edit: ^ What Karsticles said too.
Shadow Hog
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(11-14-2012, 06:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chiggs

Good to know that the stock is decent; although, that certainly puts a damper on those trying to sell it for a grand on eBay.

Good.
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 06:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Karuto

To give an impression that it is an extremely hot item. That way, it creates that demand that spreads out for many months. It's the law of supply and demand, as any Marketing student would know. As supply goes down, demand goes up. As supply goes up, demand goes down. It's intentional.

So the fact there were more wii produced/shipped during the launch period than any other console means nothing to you?
Last edited by frankie_baby; 11-14-2012 at 06:46 PM.
iammeiam
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(11-14-2012, 06:45 PM)
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Shortage = Manufactured to make people seem interested when obviously they can't be because LOLtendo

Shipping more to stores than previous console, which suffered massive extended shortages = Making excuses for consoles on shelves, since obviously nobody wants to buy them

Nintendo can't win here.
omonimo
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(11-14-2012, 06:45 PM)
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Ok, now nintendo PR start to smell like sony PR... there isn't nothing of 'concrete' to claim something like this, really.
CrashPrime
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(11-14-2012, 06:45 PM)
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In other words, scalpers are doomed.
PuppetSlave
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(11-14-2012, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ninja Scooter

The idea that companies create intentional shortages to fan the flames of demand is ridiculous?

Not sure if serious but there are hard cold numbers to counter all that nonsense. You know silly things as needing to build additional factories to ramp up an production line whose rate was higher then any other video gaming consoles up until now.

But sure, the truth is out there, yada yada.

Fuck this, gonna go play some games before tonights football game.
nickcv
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(11-14-2012, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by iammeiam

Shortage = Manufactured to make people seem interested when obviously they can't be because LOLtendo

Shipping more to stores than previous console, which suffered massive extended shortages = Making excuses for consoles on shelves, since obviously nobody wants to buy them

Nintendo can't win here.

you learn fast, my friend.
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 06:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Karsticles

Do you know why increased demand is helpful for a business? It means they can increase prices.

A console has a MSRP, and it's not going to go up. Nintendo sells their systems at a constant rate, they don't benefit at all from people selling their system on ebay for a thousand dollars.

If anything they're slightly harmed by it, if someone buys a console at a stupid mark up on eBay they have less money left for games and accessories
Malvingt2
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(11-14-2012, 06:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Karuto

Pretending that the Wii shortage wasn't intentional...

lolol
Tenck
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(11-14-2012, 06:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by freddy

The bullshit is off to an early start I see.

Good god, calm the fuck down. It's a joke.

HAHAHAHAHA I KNOW, JOKES ON THE INTERNET RIGHT?!?!?! LOL
Mondriaan
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(11-14-2012, 06:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Karsticles

Do you know why increased demand is helpful for a business? It means they can increase prices.

A console has a MSRP, and it's not going to go up. Nintendo sells their systems at a constant rate, they don't benefit at all from people selling their system on ebay for a thousand dollars.

The shortage was a huge marketing boon for Nintendo. They had incredible amounts of benefit from that.

It's probably more likely that it was a happy accident rather than being anything intentional, though.
ratcliffja
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(11-14-2012, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ultima_5

Why wouldn't they create a shortage? It increases demand.

It's like the first thing you learn in any economics class

While that may be true, it's a bit different with consoles. For every unsold system, there are also unsold games. Although Wii was a rare example of a system being sold for a profit at launch (especially lately), Nintendo still stood a lot more to gain from front-ended console sales. The longer a person owns a system, the more chances they have to buy games for it. For a console maker to intentionally cause shortages for months would be incredibly stupid and short-sighted. It's possible that they wanted to have SOME supply constraint near launch to avoid the bad publicity of having lots of unsold product on shelves, it's pretty ridiculous to think that they intended to turn away lots of customers for months. I think the main reason for the shortages is simply because they were trying to play it safe and anticipated that they could very likely be the bargain/casual option to the other 2, which can be a pretty unreliable market.
KojiKnight
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(11-14-2012, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by iammeiam

Shortage = Manufactured to make people seem interested when obviously they can't be because LOLtendo

Shipping more to stores than previous console, which suffered massive extended shortages = Making excuses for consoles on shelves, since obviously nobody wants to buy them

Nintendo can't win here.

This. Best part is, we got BOTH those responses (in seriousness) in the first few posts.
Haunted
(11-14-2012, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Karuto

Pretending that the Wii shortage wasn't intentional...

We've laid this theory to rest conclusively years ago. Get yourself up to speed before participating.
Kyon
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(11-14-2012, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by IceDoesntHelp

Hey! I'm not trying to do any harm son.

LMFAO your avi
Kai Dracon
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(11-14-2012, 06:50 PM)
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Intentional shortage conspiracies and Nintendo seem to go hand in hand. This shit's been going on for 30 years.
Tagg9
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(11-14-2012, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mondriaan

The shortage was a huge marketing boon for Nintendo. They had incredible amounts of benefit from that.

It's probably more likely that it was a happy accident rather than being anything intentional, though.

Exactly. For it to be intentional would imply that Nintendo knew what they were doing. I doubt they had that much foresight.
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haunted

We've laid this theory to rest conclusively years ago. Get yourself up to speed before participating.

I hope Jousha answers my call. I've summoned him, he needs to appear with that graph.
freddy
(11-14-2012, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tenck

Good god, calm the fuck down. It's a joke.

HAHAHAHAHA I KNOW, JOKES ON THE INTERNET RIGHT?!?!?! LOL

I'm calm. You're the one typing all in caps, man. Stop screaming at me!!

If anyone else has a bone to pick send me a PM so you don't derail the thread ;)
Raven77
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(11-14-2012, 06:52 PM)
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Regardless of if they "ship more frequently" they will send like 5-10 to select stores and they will be sold out before the poor pimpled up kid can walk half way to the gaming section with them.

Mark my words, MARK THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!

My friend Josh is pissed.
Michan
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(11-14-2012, 06:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dynopia

Interesting, they're forecasting 5.5m end of March, but Wii did 5.84m, yet they expect more this holiday season? Either they're underestimating or they're getting more of that Q1 stock in this holiday.

More frequent replenishment does not necessarily mean more total units. A replenishment of 0.1m units each week is more frequent than 0.25m every two weeks, but a smaller total amont.
KojiKnight
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(11-14-2012, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ultima_5

It's like the first thing you learn in any economics class

...Says someone who's never been in an economics class ever.

In economics you weigh the pros and cons of situations to decide what will make you more money. And what will make you more money? Temporary inflated demand while cutting into your profits (remember, for every unsold consold console, you are liking losing 1-2 game sales additionally up front, and likely several more over the life time of the console. The earlier hardware is adopted, the more sales for that hardware over it's lifetime)? Or making sure demand is met on the hardware so more software is sold?

The Wii was a happy accident... The controller promised a means for people who don't like to play games to finally have a system with physical activity they might enjoy. Wii U makes no promise and isn't likely to hit that gold mine again and Nintendo of ALL people knows this.

What you're thinking of is a MARKETING class, and marketing honestly doesn't give a f*** about economics because it's all about fantasy. Drumming up interest in demand where there isn't really a need for either.
Plinko
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(11-14-2012, 06:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chiggs

Good to know that the stock is decent; although, that certainly puts a damper on those trying to sell it for a grand on eBay.

So, two pieces of good news?

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