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nickcv
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(11-21-2012, 08:49 AM)
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http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_22013695

Q: This will be the first Nintendo game machine that the company's going to be selling at a loss at launch. How does that change the business model for Nintendo?

A: The business model doesn't change dramatically, in that as soon as we get the consumer to buy one piece of software, then that entire transaction becomes profit positive.

Seik
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(11-21-2012, 08:52 AM)
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Since almost every WiiU owner will buy NSMBU (First party, so the money will go directly in their pockets), plus at least one other game in most cases, shit will get profitable quickly.
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bananas
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(11-21-2012, 08:52 AM)
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It must be almost even margins if that's the case. And if it's only the $300 model, then there's probably going to buy a game since NintendoLand's not included.
Oblivion
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(11-21-2012, 08:53 AM)
Hear that guys? So make sure not to buy any games after you get your Wii-U.
Blood Diamonds
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(11-21-2012, 08:54 AM)
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Reggie can I punch you in the face
Gummb
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(11-21-2012, 08:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oblivion

Hear that guys? So make sure not to buy any games after you get your Wii-U.

Too late, I have 5 already!

CURSE YOU NINTENDO!!
Seance
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(11-21-2012, 08:55 AM)
I still find it hilarious that Nintendo are managing to make a loss on this thing, no matter how small.
Takao
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(11-21-2012, 08:55 AM)
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Just don't buy any digital ones because if your console goes so will those games.
nickcv
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(11-21-2012, 08:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oblivion

Hear that guys? So make sure not to buy any games after you get your Wii-U.

Originally Posted by YoungBlade

Reggie can I punch you in the face

wow, where is all the hate coming from? >.> i think the first poster is just jocking around
OryoN
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(11-21-2012, 08:56 AM)
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So much for GAF's conspiracy theories...
Seik
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(11-21-2012, 08:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Takao

Just don't buy any digital ones because if your console goes so will those games.

Lol, calm down, I'm sure they'll work something out. People will whine about it and they'll fix it. It wouldn't be logic to leave things like that anyway.
SkyMasterson
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(11-21-2012, 08:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Seance

I still find it hilarious that Nintendo are managing to make a loss on this thing, no matter how small.

Gamepad
sevenchaos
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(11-21-2012, 08:58 AM)
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I'm happy for them.
Het_Nkik
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(11-21-2012, 08:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Takao

Just don't buy any digital ones because if your console goes so will those games.

My Wii died at one point; I still have all my WiiWare and VC games.
ASIS
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(11-21-2012, 08:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Seance

I still find it hilarious that Nintendo are managing to make a loss on this thing, no matter how small.

I think it makes sense actually, Gamepad + the onilne infrastructure can cost a lot. Its really not about the specs and even then, the system is still priced cheaper than any other HD console at launch.
Blood Diamonds
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(11-21-2012, 08:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by nickcv

wow, where is all the hate coming from? >.> i think the first poster is just jocking around

No it's just that Reggie has like this awesome face : /

So like I have been wondering what it's like to punch him ever since I saw him.

I know this is weird but seriously that face is awesome
encephalon
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(11-21-2012, 08:59 AM)
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This probably says something about their licensing fees.
madmackem
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(11-21-2012, 09:00 AM)
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So the basic pack they must be taking the biggest loss off that at launch?.
BAW
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(11-21-2012, 09:00 AM)
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Guess this means that the premium SKU is turning a profit already.
Spazznid
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(11-21-2012, 09:02 AM)
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Good on them.

Gotta get dat munnie so's we can Haz our Zelda. Show Nawty Dawg/Vigil Games how to make Adventure games.

Big budget Killzone/Halo/Gears-stomping Metroid game with Graffix so shiney, they'll melt your Assault Rifle, along with your hand. No worries, you won't be needing that.

And Super Smash Brothers Universe!!!! Playstation All-what?

Also, munnies are more fun to bathe in than waters.

It is known.
Ashes
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(11-21-2012, 09:03 AM)
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Q: This will be the first Nintendo game machine that the company's going to be selling at a loss at launch. How does that change the business model for Nintendo?

A: The business model doesn't change dramatically, in that as soon as we get the consumer to buy one piece of software, then that entire transaction becomes profit positive.

Profit Positive.

As oppose to profit negative?
thuway
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(11-21-2012, 09:03 AM)
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The one great thing about the Wii U is, the chipset they are using for the streaming tech will become cheaper over time. That right now is the troubling piece.
Cheerilee
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(11-21-2012, 09:04 AM)
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A console sold at a loss is profitable eventually. An underpowered console is underpowered forever.
Gummb
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(11-21-2012, 09:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Takao

Just don't buy any digital ones because if your console goes so will those games.

Too late, I have 5 already!

CURSE YOU NINTENDO!!
KojiKnight
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(11-21-2012, 09:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cheerilee

A console sold at a loss is profitable eventually. An underpowered console is underpowered forever.

I think Sega would have something to say about that.
Cheerilee
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(11-21-2012, 09:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by KojiKnight

I think Sega would have something to say about that.

Miyamoto's law only consistently works in Miyamoto's hands.
luffeN
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(11-21-2012, 09:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ashes1396

Profit Positive.

As oppose to profit negative?

Profit neutral of course! lol
Gummb
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about Rayman Legends Wii U.
(11-21-2012, 09:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cheerilee

A console sold at a loss is profitable eventually. An underpowered console is underpowered forever.

Must... ignore... logical leap!

[EDIT] and the false conclusion!!
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antonz
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(11-21-2012, 09:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cheerilee

A console sold at a loss is profitable eventually. An underpowered console is underpowered forever.

If you spend 4 billion to make a few hundred million that is not a great deal
DJ Crimson
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(11-21-2012, 09:08 AM)
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This is something Sony would say. That's not a compliment.
Tunavi
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(11-21-2012, 09:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by DJ Crimson

This is something Sony would say. That's not a compliment.

Nintendo sells games
DJ Crimson
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(11-21-2012, 09:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tunavi

Nintendo sells games

Third Party Publishers say whats up son.
Always-honest
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(11-21-2012, 09:10 AM)
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For exactly 2 cents per console you could have given people a cpu that would make the Wii-U the top console for at least one year.

Now, you could have killed your own console with being fucking cheap-asses.

Greed will kill you.
DICKS AHOY
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(11-21-2012, 09:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by antonz

If you spend 4 billion to make a few hundred million that is not a great deal

You forgot to factor in the thousands of people on the internet who will stop making fun of your system as much
EDarkness
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(11-21-2012, 09:10 AM)
Well, at the end of the day, I ended up purchasing 5 Wii U games with a few more coming in a couple of months. Can't say I didn't do my part. :)
Dreamwriter
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(11-21-2012, 09:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Takao

Just don't buy any digital ones because if your console goes so will those games.

The Wii wasn't that way, so why would the Wii U be? I'm actually on my third Wii, and I've never lost any of my Wiiware or VC games. Lost my saves once, that sucked.
dc89
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(11-21-2012, 09:11 AM)
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Anyone have a Wii U ItPrintsMoney.gif ?
Log4Girlz
I recently went to my friends house to check out his wii. I was generally impressed. It was larger than I expected though.
(11-21-2012, 09:11 AM)
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Well thank goodness they went for the bargain basement components, to think you need to purchase an entire new game for Nintendo to see a profit.
Gummb
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(11-21-2012, 09:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Always-honest

For exactly 2 cents per console you could have given people a cpu that would make the Wii-U the top console for at least one year.

Now, you could have killed your own console with being fucking cheap-asses.

Greed will kill you.

get owned. I'll have fun regardless. I have my PC for everything else anyway.
thuway
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(11-21-2012, 09:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

Well thank goodness they went for the bargain basement components, to think you need to purchase an entire new game for Nintendo to see a profit.

I really would have seen Nintendo launch at $399 and had a console with more mature tech. Alas, the current console should give us an HD Zelda :).
KojiKnight
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(11-21-2012, 09:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

Well thank goodness they went for the bargain basement components, to think you need to purchase an entire new game for Nintendo to see a profit.

Nintendo is a game company. Sony is an electronics company. Microsoft is an OS and office product company.


See the difference? I hope so. Then I shouldn't have to explain why profits of Nintendo's game system is kind of important to them.
R1CHO
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(11-21-2012, 09:15 AM)
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I cant believe they are losing money at 349$ with this thing.
Always-honest
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(11-21-2012, 09:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gummb

get owned. I'll have fun regardless. I have my PC for everything else anyway.

I'll have fun with first party games, but it's such a shame for kids who only get to choose one console. A real shame. Stupid ass decisions by Nintendo imo. Really cheap.
Seik
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(11-21-2012, 09:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by R1CHO

I cant believe they are losing money at 349$ with this thing.

Originally Posted by SkyMasterson

Gamepad

. (its basically 299$ for the hardware btw, the extra 50$ is for NL and bunch of accessories.)
Dreamwriter
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(11-21-2012, 09:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cheerilee

A console sold at a loss is profitable eventually. An underpowered console is underpowered forever.

I don't think the PS3 is profitable yet, that's why they keep revamping it, and even made it *more* expensive when they released the recent revamp. And sometimes underpowered consoles aren't underpowered forever - PSP's CPU was underclocked, a firmware upgrade allowed games to clock it to full speed. Considering the Wii U uses only 40 watts in the current most complex games, while its power supply can give it 75 watts, there's probably a good amount of underclocking being done right now.
Atcha
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(11-21-2012, 09:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by SkyMasterson

Gamepad

Gamepad is cheap.
redcrayon
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(11-21-2012, 09:18 AM)

as soon as we get the consumer to buy one piece of software, then that entire transaction becomes profit positive.

That is the worst bit of management-speak I've heard in ages. Why mangle language, what has it ever done to you Reggie?
Log4Girlz
I recently went to my friends house to check out his wii. I was generally impressed. It was larger than I expected though.
(11-21-2012, 09:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by KojiKnight

Nintendo is a game company. Sony is an electronics company. Microsoft is an OS and office product company.


See the difference? I hope so. Then I shouldn't have to explain why profits of Nintendo's game system is kind of important to them.

I for one am so glad that the Wii U experience is hampered so that they can turn a profit so quickly. As opposed to perhaps having to sell 2 or 3 games so that we get decent hardware. Also, let us not forget this is at launch. Within a short time the system itself will be profitable or at least break-even per unit.
DICKS AHOY
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(11-21-2012, 09:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by thuway

I really would have seen Nintendo launch at $399 and had a console with more mature tech. Alas, the current console should give us an HD Zelda :).

At this point I'm wondering if it'd of been worth just scrapping the tablet and focusing on just making a bigger generational-leap 'Super' Wii. Emphasis on wondering since I don't own the system yet so I have no clue how the tablet feels and in a year's time I'll probably look back on this post and laugh at myself for suggesting Nintendo cut the system's main selling point.

Doesn't change my opinion that 1st party games and Wii-U exclusive 3rd party games like Rayman and ZombiU are going to be great, but stupid as hell after admitting the Wii suffered a huge 3rd party drought Nintendo let the same thing happen again.
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Seik
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(11-21-2012, 09:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by redcrayon

That is the worst bit of management-speak I've heard in ages. Why mangle language, what has it ever done to you Reggie?

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