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Risette
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(11-29-2012, 04:29 AM)
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As the title states, long-time director of anime Hiroyuki Kitakubo (director of Roujin Z, original Jojo's Bizarre Adventure OVA series, Blood: The Last Vampire, Golden Boy, Cream Lemon 4: Pop Chaser) recently tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/LawofGreen/statu...02350509416448

"Japan's moe characters have had a negative influence on American cartoons. See: 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'"

What do you think, GAF?
Last edited by Risette; 11-29-2012 at 04:36 AM.
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(11-29-2012, 04:30 AM)
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MLP thread get the ban list ready.
DUFFMCWALIN
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(11-29-2012, 04:30 AM)
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He's right.
Tawpgun
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(11-29-2012, 04:30 AM)
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I don't know what moe is but I agree MLP is a negative
RawkHawk2010
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(11-29-2012, 04:30 AM)
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If there's anything wrong with My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, that's not it.
markot
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(11-29-2012, 04:30 AM)
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shadyspace
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(11-29-2012, 04:30 AM)
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Golden Boy was fuckin' rad.
B-Dubs
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(11-29-2012, 04:31 AM)
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If he feels this way then he should give us the exact opposite of it the very next opportunity he gets. Looking at future line ups this isn't likely to happen so yea.... (I can't say I disagree though)
Technosteve
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(11-29-2012, 04:31 AM)
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Moe is for men and women, MLP is for girls.
CountAntonius
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(11-29-2012, 04:31 AM)
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Vulcano's assistant
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(11-29-2012, 04:31 AM)
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I personally prefer to wait for some scientist to find out that this devil's gene was in us all along.
Tesseract
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(11-29-2012, 04:32 AM)
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ethereal ether through da ethernets.
Sielys
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(11-29-2012, 04:32 AM)
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Is moe really so terrible for a show aimed at children? I don't really see the big deal, there's not much moe, if any, in mature western animation, form what I've seen. Superjail, Venture Bros, etc.
Kapura
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(11-29-2012, 04:32 AM)
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Everybody hates MLP.
SalsaShark
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(11-29-2012, 04:32 AM)
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El Sloth
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(11-29-2012, 04:33 AM)
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(11-29-2012, 04:34 AM)
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I thought basically everyone thought that the new MLP was at least no worse than older versions of same, so it's hard to see how "moe" could contribute to MLP in a negative way.
DrForester
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(11-29-2012, 04:34 AM)
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I don't see the connection at all. The characters in MLP, thankfully are more defined characters than moeblobs.
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iammeiam
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(11-29-2012, 04:35 AM)
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So a guy who directed Golden Boy and an episode of Cream Lemon thinks moe is ruining American children's cartoons? There's some pretty big differences in target audience there.

The newer MLP designs always reminded me more of Bratz Poniez than moe anime, so I don't think the two are all that closely tied.
Last edited by iammeiam; 11-29-2012 at 04:37 AM.
Dragoon En Regalia
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(11-29-2012, 04:35 AM)
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It's certainly not as socially fatal to be a Brony in the States as it is to rub one off to mo in Japan. Overall, Japan's had worse, and we've merely hit the tip of the iceberg. I certainly respect the MLP fan community and appreciate them for the people they are, but some people do take it too far sometimes.

For the most part, though, they stick to making Awesome Fan Art™.
Kwixotik
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(11-29-2012, 04:37 AM)
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The only moe I know is 'money over everything'.
El Sloth
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(11-29-2012, 04:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kwixotik

The only moe I know is 'money over everything'.

Don't you mean Moe Over Everything?
Emitan
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(11-29-2012, 04:41 AM)
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What's wrong with cute things?
DrForester
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(11-29-2012, 04:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by iammeiam

The newer MLP designs always reminded me more of Bratz Poniez than moe anime, so I don't think the two are all that closely tied.

Art wise it reminds me more of (and not surprisingly) the stuff Faust worked on before like Fosters Home, and Powerpuff Girls.

Also the whole moeblob thing in anime, I label based on characterization, I don't think art has much play in it. There are plenty of adorable, cute anime characters that are good characters.
Buddha Beam
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(11-29-2012, 04:42 AM)
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I think moe is having a bad influence on anime too.
SMT
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(11-29-2012, 04:42 AM)
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I never got into the whole moe thing, the extend of my 'moe' consists of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.
Blood the last vampire was a touching movie.
"God's Beard!"
(11-29-2012, 04:42 AM)
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I love Roujin Z.
FelixOrion
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(11-29-2012, 04:42 AM)
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He's right.

Originally Posted by shadyspace

Golden Boy was fuckin' rad.

Fuck yeah it was.
Branduil
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(11-29-2012, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia

It's certainly not as socially fatal to be a Brony in the States as it is to rub one off to mo in Japan.

I don't know about that.
Risette
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(11-29-2012, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by God's Beard

I love Roujin Z.

What about the Jojo OVA?
entrement
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(11-29-2012, 04:45 AM)
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Nice credentials. Loved all those.
TxdoHawk
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(11-29-2012, 04:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by iammeiam

So a guy who directed Golden Boy and an episode of Cream Lemon...

I had to look up what this was for some reason and saw this on Wikipedia:

Related to the Cream Lemon series is the Project A-Ko series, which was originally to be the third installment of Cream Lemon but changed while in production to be a mainstream title. The only remaining indication is the bath scene with B-ko.

Mind = blown.
Narag
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(11-29-2012, 04:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by TxdoHawk

I had to look up what this was for some reason and saw this on Wikipedia:



Mind = blown.

Yeah, that got me too when I looked into it recently.
Incitemaybe
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(11-29-2012, 04:47 AM)
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One things for certain, Little Ponies seem to affect many of you.

Seems like a bad joke to feel strongly about it.
tafer
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(11-29-2012, 04:48 AM)
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I think several people made the same connection (moe-mlp) when the whole "brony" phenomenon was starting.

It kinda died with time, the show and the fandom it created are an entire new different beast.
Wyndstryker
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(11-29-2012, 04:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by shadyspace

Golden Boy was fuckin' rad.

And is still better than most anime out there.
sfedai0
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(11-29-2012, 04:49 AM)
Hes all right in my book solely due to Golden Boy.
kyoya
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(11-29-2012, 04:50 AM)
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I had the opportunity to meet Kitakubo at an Anime Expo many years ago - very nice and insightful guy. I find it really sad that he has not directed anything since Blood: The Last Vampire, he's a very talented director. Production I.G. must be an extremely difficult place to work from what I've read, and I have to wonder if Kitakubo is still employed there.
Sielys
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(11-29-2012, 04:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by shadyspace

Golden Boy was fuckin' rad.

Was pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHmBSfci0yE
Kwixotik
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(11-29-2012, 04:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by El Sloth

Don't you mean Moe Over Everything?

'Money over everything' over everything? Works for me.
FelixOrion
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(11-29-2012, 04:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by tafer

I think several people made the same connection (moe-mlp) when the whole "brony" phenomenon was starting.

It kinda died with time, the show and the fandom it created are an entire new different beast.

I think you'll see this happen in lots of things.

One group in one country makes something, it goes over to another country and sparks a similar but different movement, with the second country's group more or less riffing on/reinventing it. If this is anything like that, MLP might gain a following in Japan, and spark something new too.

But that's just conjecture on a horrible nightmare dystopia in the making
Slayven
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(11-29-2012, 04:55 AM)
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99% of new anime is damn near unwatchable cause of moe.
Kai Dracon
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(11-29-2012, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Incitemaybe

One things for certain, Little Ponies seem to affect many of you.

Seems like a bad joke to feel strongly about it.

Lately I've begun to think of a woman I saw on a news report when it comes to people with strong feelings over ponies, video game developers making the "games we deserve" and so forth:

This adult lady of like 40 years was standing in front of a grocery store with armloads of twinkie boxes (and no, she wasn't overweight). And she was crying. She was in tears, and choked up. Why? Because she said, that her grandchildren wouldn't grow up knowing what a twinkie was.

Think of the twinkies. Club a pony today.

Originally Posted by tafer

I think several people made the same connection (moe-mlp) when the whole "brony" phenomenon was starting.

It kinda died with time, the show and the fandom it created are an entire new different beast.

I once said on GAF that MLP and its adult fandom are kind of America discovering its own "moe". It's not that it's the same thing, but it seems to strike the same chord that moe does in Japan.
Branduil
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(11-29-2012, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slayven

99% of new anime is damn near unwatchable cause of moe.

85% of statistics are made up on the spot.
HP_Wuvcraft
(11-29-2012, 04:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tawpgun

I don't know what moe is but I agree MLP is a negative

.... you do know the show promotes friendship and teamwork, right?

But sure. Let's label it a pox on society just because some guys decide to take it a bit too far.
Slayven
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(11-29-2012, 04:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft

.... you do know the show promotes friendship and teamwork, right?

But sure. Let's label it a pox on society just because some guys decide to take it a bit too far.

So does most of current kids entertainment. Thanks E/I!
injurai
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(11-29-2012, 05:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Billiechu

What's wrong with cute things?

Because eventually everything has to have moe to sell
Risette
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(11-29-2012, 05:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by injurai

Because eventually everything has to have moe to sell

Not really.

Moe isn't even the greatest driver of sales anymore. Brolust is. MLP isn't cute though; ugly things can't be cute.
sp3000
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(11-29-2012, 05:01 AM)
Moe is to japan like dudebro is to the west
Kwixotik
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(11-29-2012, 05:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft

.... you do know the show promotes friendship and teamwork, right?

But sure. Let's label it a pox on society just because some guys decide to take it a bit too far.

Art for adults isn't about moral instruction.

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