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miladesn
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(11-29-2012, 01:42 PM)
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https://twitter.com/marcan42

marcan is a well known Wii hacker, in case you haven't heard of him.

Wii U codenames worth knowing: system Cafe, CPU Espresso, GPU/SoC/etc. Latte, ARM secure processor Starbuck (we made that one up).

1.243125GHz, exactly. 3 PowerPC 750 type cores (similar to Wii's Broadway, but more cache).

GPU core at 549.999755MHz.

we're calling the WiiU security processor the Starbuck (vs. Starlet on Wii). And it seems to be about equally vulnerable, too

sorry, I'd rather not talk about how I got that yet. It doesn't involve leaks, it involves Wii U hacks ;)



Last edited by miladesn; 11-29-2012 at 06:38 PM.
TunaLover
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(11-29-2012, 01:43 PM)
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sorry, I'd rather not talk about how I got that yet. It doesn't involve leaks, it involves Wii U hacks ;)

Shit got real
Sophia
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(11-29-2012, 01:44 PM)
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Why do I have the feeling that Nintendo's insistence on backwards compatibility is going to bite them in the ass in regards to homebrew? Oh marcan...
Kouriozan
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(11-29-2012, 01:45 PM)
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So it's as easy as the Wii to hack the Wii U >.<
archnemesis
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(11-29-2012, 01:45 PM)
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I guess that explains why some developers were having trouble getting ports to run on it. I hope he, or someone else, manage to hack it soon. Region locks are the worst.
The Boat
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(11-29-2012, 01:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sophia

Why do I have the feeling that Nintendo's insistence on backwards compatibility is going to bite them in the ass in regards to homebrew? Oh marcan...

As long as we get region free...
chandoog
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(11-29-2012, 01:45 PM)
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so ... is this better or worse ?
reptilescorpio
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(11-29-2012, 01:46 PM)
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Homebrew channel again?

Another selling point over the competition!
gofreak
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(11-29-2012, 01:46 PM)
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Holy balls @ that CPU clock
squall23
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(11-29-2012, 01:46 PM)
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itbegins.gif

Also, the irony of the possibility of Wii U being hacked before 3DS. Either Wii U is that easy or 3DS is that hard. I don't really know which right now.
Kokonoe
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(11-29-2012, 01:46 PM)
Come on Game Pad emulation.
JordanKZ
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(11-29-2012, 01:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by chandoog

so ... is this better or worse ?

I believe the 360 has a tri core 3.2ghz processor. So yeah. Not great.
Sophia
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(11-29-2012, 01:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by chandoog

so ... is this better or worse ?

It's pretty bad. Somewhat significantly worse than either the PS3 or 360. :\
BGBW
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(11-29-2012, 01:48 PM)
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Next WiiU update coming in December.
efyu_lemonardo
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(11-29-2012, 01:48 PM)
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I was hoping Espresso was basically a tri core Broadway, this is going to make emulation easier.
Has any WiiU game been dumped yet?
KennyLinder
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(11-29-2012, 01:48 PM)
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Region free cheers please thanks.
Biggzy
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(11-29-2012, 01:48 PM)
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That CPU is looking weaker with every day that passes.

Forget the memory, the CPU is looking like the real bottleneck.
Madao
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(11-29-2012, 01:48 PM)
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inb4 "not even twice as fast as Wii!!"
Combichristoffersen
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(11-29-2012, 01:49 PM)
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So, time for DBZ power levels for the Wii U CPU vs Cell vs Xenon?
Kaako
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(11-29-2012, 01:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by gofreak

Holy balls @ that CPU clock

Pretty much lol. Don't see Nintendo being too pleased if it's as hackable as the Wii.
i-Lo
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(11-29-2012, 01:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by gofreak

Holy balls @ that CPU clock

It's like the Pi version of processing speed, but instead of starting as 3.14 that would have been close to the 360 or PS3 processor's clock, it's nearly a third slower, like a slice of Pi instead.

Although, this would explain the low power consumption.
BGBW
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by gumby_trucker

Has any WiiU game been dumped yet?

No one has a reader that can read Nintendo smooth discs.
LeleSocho
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
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Give me the possibility to make it region free and maybe i will buy the console.
DeuceGamer
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kokonoe

Come on Game Pad emulation.

There are a ton of things I'd love to see done with Wii U (such as VC on GamePad, XBMC, etc.).
Perkel
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
Are you fucking kidding me ? 1,25 GHz ?

I change my statement.

Devs were not lazy with ports on WiiU they were fucking wizards to achieve that on WiiU.
Maleficence
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
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Sounds terribly slow.
Rapstah
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
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How much does a laptop with a higher clocked quad-core and a higher clocked integrated GPU cost?

Edit: Don't mistake this as "Nintendo should just have bought off-the-shelf components from Newegg and we'd have a better system!".
Last edited by Rapstah; 11-29-2012 at 01:58 PM.
bloodyroarxx
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(11-29-2012, 01:50 PM)
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Im speechless at that CPU clock
hammster
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(11-29-2012, 01:51 PM)
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So erm... Have reasons behind the choice of CPU been discussed? Is it for first party familiarity?
Kenka
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(11-29-2012, 01:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sophia

It's pretty bad. Somewhat significantly worse than either the PS3 or 360. :\

The clock speed is lower.
Ryuuga
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(11-29-2012, 01:51 PM)
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Wow, I guess a few people owe Shishkovtsov over at 4A an apology.
Sho_Nuff82
(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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But at least it's quiet enough for the wives and gfs of the world amirite?

Hardware BC better be worth it.
Azure J
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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Hot damn, it's like that? Also, Grandpa Simpson vindicated.

Edit: Isn't that GPU speed actually fairly good?
CassSept
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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I know next to nothing about hardware and even I can see the CPU is an absolute disaster. What the hell Nintendo, what the hell.
jett
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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Seems the CPU is straight-up caca.
CosmicGroinPull
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)

Originally Posted by JordanKZ

I believe the 360 has a tri core 3.2ghz processor. So yeah. Not great.


Oh wow. Seriously. Talk about extreme cost-saving. IMHO. If it's still good value for you, go for it.... pffft.
Combichristoffersen
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by hammster

So erm... Have reasons behind the choice of CPU been discussed? Is it for first party familiarity?

Backwards compatability with the Wii, I think.
efyu_lemonardo
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by BGBW

No one has a reader that can read Nintendo smooth discs.

No need. You just need to figure out the file system they use for the hard drive.
flipswitch
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ryuuga

Wow, I guess a few people owe Shishkovtsov over at 4A an apology.

Only if they could pronounce his name.
Bruno MB
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(11-29-2012, 01:52 PM)
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So according to Nintendo Wii U was supposed to be a perfect machine for getting multiplatform titles lol
kinggroin
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(11-29-2012, 01:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Perkel

Are you fucking kidding me ? 1,25 GHz ?

I change my statement.

Devs were not lazy with ports on WiiU they were fucking wizards to achieve that on WiiU.

Holy shit seriously
Jackpot
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(11-29-2012, 01:53 PM)
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So, obviously, 1.25Ghz doesn't have the same significance as a 1.25Ghz CPU on a PC as you could never play AC3 and the like with that. So what's the difference that allows it to run faster and what is it's nearest PC equivalent?
Dicer
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(11-29-2012, 01:53 PM)
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ITT: people that don't understand clock speed isn't as an important factor in modern cpu/gpu architecture

I expected speeds right around this ballpark, with ooe and the chunk of edram it should still serve up some great looking software down the line.

Just cool to have the number so we don't have to speculate anymore
Kenka
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by hammster

So erm... Have reasons behind the choice of CPU been discussed? Is it for first party familiarity?

Backwards compatibility is a non-issue if you reuse parts of your former hardware.
But I don't understand why Nintendo lowered the clock speed, and hence, the wattage of their CPU so much. Something is wrong.



GPU clock speed seems in line with the hints given in the various WiiU specs threads.
Perkel
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
Right now it is only GPU that hold system together somewhat above current gen
Visualante2
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by hammster

So erm... Have reasons behind the choice of CPU been discussed? Is it for first party familiarity?

I think cost and energy use come before ease of use with decisions of this nature. Talented developers can learn to make games on anything.

Originally Posted by Jackpot

So, obviously, 1.25Ghz doesn't have the same significance as a 1.25Ghz CPU on a PC as you could never play AC3 and the like with that. So what's the difference that allows it to run faster and what is it's nearest PC equivalent?

Like a PowerPC Power Mac from the mid 2000s? Total guess on my part but they had Power PC processors.
Last edited by Visualante2; 11-29-2012 at 01:56 PM.
i-Lo
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by jett

Seems the CPU is straight-up caca.

Out of curiosity, does the CPU being OoO compensate the processing speed disparity?

And... iirc, isn't WiiU development GPU centric?
Bullza2o
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
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This doesn't sound good at all.
TunaLover
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by hammster

So erm... Have reasons behind the choice of CPU been discussed? Is it for first party familiarity?

Small form factor the most I think, it's pretty recurrent discussion in Iwata Asks.
Delusibeta
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(11-29-2012, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen

So, time for DBZ power levels for the Wii U CPU vs Cell vs Xenon?

In terms of pure clock speed, it's a bit like comparing a Fiat with a Ferrari. I know that CPU efficiency has increased so you can do more with 1Ghz than you could seven years ago, but a 3Ghz CPU still trumps a 1Ghz CPU any day of the week. It's pretty much the same strategy as the Wii: spend all the R&D money on the controller and release a cheap and underpowered console alongside it.

That, and the suggestion that the hackers are confident they can blow the console open, is not great news for everyone involved.

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