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Xater
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(12-07-2012, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nils

Interesting. Can you elaborate on this?

It's not that hard at all. Usually online shops have to do a "Postident". you go with a filled out form and your ID to the post office. They confirm that it is you who filled out the form and sent it to the shop. From then on you can order whatever you want. Or you can be a sane person and order from any other EU country without this headache.
Zornica
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(12-07-2012, 02:36 PM)
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The system has been out for a whole week now, and noone noticed this until now? Can't be that big of a deal then. Maybe some are a litte bit overreacting here.
*waits for the eurogamer update and doesn't give a shit about 18+ content anyway*
Xater
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(12-07-2012, 02:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zornica

The system has been out for a whole week now, and noone noticed this until now? Can't be that big of a deal then. Maybe some are a litte bit overreacting here.
*waits for the eurogamer update and doesn't give a shit about 18+ content anyway*

I noticed it on day 1 when I fucked around with the eShop. I thought everyone already knew.
Haunted
(12-07-2012, 02:37 PM)
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The Eurogamer comment section is a goldmine. Appropriate reactions all around.

Nintendo done fucked up. Let's see how long it takes them to fix it.


Originally Posted by Xater

Or you can be a sane person and order from any other EU country without this headache.

Uncut, hassle-free and much, much cheaper? Don't mind if I do!

And then there's much hand wringing and puzzled looks on why the German divisions of internationally available online shops are consistently doing worse than they should given the other market conditions.

Fucking idiots.
Last edited by Haunted; 12-07-2012 at 02:43 PM.
Pociask
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(12-07-2012, 02:40 PM)
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Wow. No adult content until after 11? Don't they know that many adults with kids are asleep by then?
frankie_baby
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(12-07-2012, 02:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Zornica

The system has been out for a whole week now, and noone noticed this until now? Can't be that big of a deal then. Maybe some are a litte bit overreacting here.
*waits for the eurogamer update and doesn't give a shit about 18+ content anyway*

I noticed it days ago and no one believed me
ffdgh
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(12-07-2012, 02:46 PM)
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This is so......wow. They're losing sales with this.
Haunted
(12-07-2012, 02:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

I noticed it days ago and no one believed me

To be fair, disbelief is the natural first reaction to something like this.

I was honestly convinced this had to be a bug affecting everyone when it should only work on child accounts.
wsippel
(12-07-2012, 02:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Haunted

The Eurogamer comment section is a goldmine. Appropriate reactions all around.

Nintendo done fucked up. Let's see how long it takes them to fix it.

They won't fix it until there's enough 18+ content and revenue on the eShop to warrant transferring eShop operation to a subsidiary in a different country. It's not really worth the effort for four games and potentially a mere few hundred lost sales.
mrklaw
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(12-07-2012, 02:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by ffdgh

This is so......wow. They're losing sales with this.

it's not so bad, Ubisoft and Activision's digital pricing is scaring most people away.
ffdgh
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(12-07-2012, 02:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

it's not so bad, Ubisoft and Activision's digital pricing is scaring most people away.

True tho every little bit helps tho :P
Panajev2001a
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(12-07-2012, 02:51 PM)

Originally Posted by wsippel

They won't fix it until there's enough 18+ content and revenue on the eShop to warrant transferring eShop operation to a subsidiary in a different country. It's not really worth the effort for four games and potentially a mere few hundred lost sales.

I am bothered that with all the time they had and all the money they were earning that they could only do the bare minimum for their users especially when they were going on and on about an approach that was both wider and deeper (E3 2011).

Perhaps they will not have to worry about such bothersome 18+ content, publishers might leave it on PS3, Xbox 360, Steam, Durango, Orbis, Apple App Store, Google Play, etc... This way they can be polite with Nintendo and not cause them any trouble with other subsidiaries and transferring the eShop and all ;).
Panajev2001a
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(12-07-2012, 02:54 PM)

Originally Posted by mrklaw

it's not so bad, Ubisoft and Activision's digital pricing is scaring most people away.

It is not like this is a sign of good faith in terms of attracting third parties which have neglected Wii in favor of the other HD platforms.
Haunted
(12-07-2012, 02:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by wsippel

They won't fix it until there's enough 18+ content and revenue on the eShop to warrant transferring eShop operation to a subsidiary in a different country. It's not really worth the effort for four games and potentially a mere few hundred lost sales.

You're probably right.

The image this transports (both to consumers and possible publishing partners) and the subsequent loss in goodwill are probably larger effects than the actual "lost sales" from this, but NoE is a very conservative and pragmatic company, they'll just look at the numbers and congratulate themselves for a well-made financial decision.
M3d10n
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(12-07-2012, 03:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zornica

yes, if they are based in germany, they will shut down certain streams. I've encountered it a few times.

Streams is one thing. Being unable to even buy the game is something else entirely and even if that is not avoidable, it should only apply to Germany.
AHA-Lambda
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(12-07-2012, 03:54 PM)
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Wow, holy just wow...

Nintendo have exceeded my already very high expectations for their ineptitude in regards to their online service.

What were they thinking?!
GarthVaderUK
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(12-07-2012, 04:10 PM)
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So this is the case across Europe then? Bloody mental.

Why limit adults to 11pm-3am for 18 rated content? 3rd parties surely can't be happy about it either.
Samurai_Heart
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(12-07-2012, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by GarthVaderUK

So this is the case across Europe then? Bloody mental.

Why limit adults to 11pm-3am for 18 rated content? 3rd parties surely can't be happy about it either.

We have Germany to thank =P
Lol so let me get this straight...when Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor Edge comes out here, if I want to download I need to do so at 11pm-3am...
Great =S good thing I'm a nocturnal guy.
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Phazon
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(12-07-2012, 04:19 PM)
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Also here in Belgium.

So that's the reason I could not see it a few days ago.

Stupid move, Nintendo.
Shinjica
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(12-07-2012, 04:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Samurai_Heart

We have Germany to thank =P
Lol so let me get this straight...when Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor Edge comes out here, if I want to download I need to do so at 11pm-3am...
Great = good thing I'm a nocturnal guy.

If you do this, they'll think that system is working and it wont be changed.
brucelito
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(12-07-2012, 04:20 PM)
Contacted Nintendo Europe about this issue, which is the same in Sweden. Got an answer today:

Thank you for your email.

We are sorry to hear of your disappointment with this service on the console

At Nintendo we always aim to provide a safe gaming experience for fans of all ages and ensure that we comply with the various legal age restriction requirements set out across Europe.

It is for these reasons that we have restricted access to content which is not suitable for minors to 23:00 until 03:00.

Thank you for your understanding.

Kind regards,

Nintendo UK
Samurai_Heart
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(12-07-2012, 04:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shinjica

If you do this, they'll think that system is working and it wont be changed.

Luckily I rather buy the discs, but it's dumb that there's only a 4hr period, why not from 11pm-5am? At least give a 6hr period or so =(
frankie_baby
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(12-07-2012, 04:27 PM)

Originally Posted by brucelito

Contacted Nintendo Europe about this issue, which is the same in Sweden. Got an answer today:

Thank you for your email.

We are sorry to hear of your disappointment with this service on the console

At Nintendo we always aim to provide a safe gaming experience for fans of all ages and ensure that we comply with the various legal age restriction requirements set out across Europe.

It is for these reasons that we have restricted access to content which is not suitable for minors to 23:00 until 03:00.

Thank you for your understanding.

Kind regards,

Nintendo UK

Seems like that's the only answer us mere mortals will get, hopefully Eurogamer will have more luck
UrbanRats
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(12-07-2012, 04:28 PM)
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This sounds absurd.
I hope all this bullshit will be solved by the time i get the console.
frankie_baby
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(12-07-2012, 04:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Samurai_Heart

Luckily I rather buy the discs, but it's dumb that there's only a 4hr period, why not from 11pm-5am? At least give a 6hr period or so =(

German kids obviously get up at 3.01 am, probably why Germans grow up so efficient
Khaz
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(12-07-2012, 04:47 PM)
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This did not came with the wiiU.

I remember this september they put WiiU preview videos on the 3DS eShop, among those several from Bayonetta 2. Guess what? I couldn't access them outside of specific hours. Of course the warning never told me what would be the right hours for me to watch a the video of a videogame and I ended up never seeing them. Good marketing Nintendo.

While I had no clue at the time of what was going on (I'm not german) I now know that it was because of german laws.

(Why is Bayonetta 18+ anyway?)
Neuromancer
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(12-07-2012, 04:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by ezekial45

The Greater Good...

The Greater Good...
CrunchinJelly
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(12-07-2012, 04:51 PM)
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I noticed this the other day when I tried to view Assassin's Creed 3 on the eShop.

It's really, really dumb.

I'm an adult. If I wanna stab dudes in the neck at 2pm, I will.
LuchaShaq
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(12-07-2012, 04:52 PM)
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As someone who works nights this would be enough to make me not buy the system even if I was interested.

This is onion level dumb.
Napalm_Frank
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(12-07-2012, 04:53 PM)
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I couldn't even make this up. Such a weird thing to do. Won't help with the kiddy console jokes tho.
mrklaw
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(12-07-2012, 04:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by brucelito

Contacted Nintendo Europe about this issue, which is the same in Sweden. Got an answer today:

Thank you for your email.

We are sorry to hear of your disappointment with this service on the console

At Nintendo we always aim to provide a safe gaming experience for fans of all ages and ensure that we comply with the various legal age restriction requirements set out across Europe.

It is for these reasons that we have restricted access to content which is not suitable for minors to 23:00 until 03:00.

Thank you for your understanding.

Kind regards,

Nintendo UK



shit, 3am? So you have four hours in the middle of the night to buy adult rated content? Insane.

Also disappointingly plays into the 'teh kiddie' image of Nintendo. They really need to stop being such muppets on matters like this.
softie
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(12-07-2012, 05:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Khaz

(Why is Bayonetta 18+ anyway?)

Aiming for the core!
onipex
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(12-07-2012, 05:03 PM)
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They would be better off not putting that content on the eshop at all or at least until they has a way for adults to buy the content whenever they wanted to.
impact
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(12-07-2012, 05:05 PM)
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Holy shit, this is insanely stupid. Has anyone tried defending it yet? NoE is basically spitting in the face of their customers.
wsippel
(12-07-2012, 05:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Khaz

(Why is Bayonetta 18+ anyway?)

Because it's quite bloody and sadistic. The game, not the trailer.
Haunted
(12-07-2012, 05:07 PM)
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Why's Assassin's Creed affected anyway, I thought that's USK 16.

Originally Posted by Samurai_Heart

We have Germany to thank =P

Not sure how it's Germany's fault when I can go to literally every other online shop in the country whenever I want and view and buy whatever 18+ game I want when providing the proper ID.

It's just Nintendo doing this shit.
Last edited by Haunted; 12-07-2012 at 05:09 PM.
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(12-07-2012, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Napalm_Frank

I couldn't even make this up. Such a weird thing to do. Won't help with the kiddy console jokes tho.

Thinking about 3rd party relations, this is probably just one of the reasons why 2013 looks so barren. 4 hours a day for selling a product... what is this, the stone age?

Who at NOE was honestly saying: Yep, giving 18+ games 3 hours a day to sell on the eshop, and completely removing the ability to rate 18+ games in germany is a great idea. 3rd parties will love it and gamers will appreciate being patronized and protected.

This is just so retarded, and further testimony to this companies complete lack of understanding of the current market.

Well good thing about a free market is that companies like these will be weeded out eventually unless they adapt. Nintendo slept on the HD boom, and they are completely missing the Digital Distribution Train as well. Maybe next time.
frankie_baby
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(12-07-2012, 05:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Haunted

Why's Assassin's Creed affected anyway, I thought that's USK 16.

Its pegi 18
B.O.O.M
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(12-07-2012, 05:10 PM)
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haha no one actually believes the PR BS right?

the greater good
fabricated backlash
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(12-07-2012, 05:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by impact

Holy shit, this is insanely stupid. Has anyone tried defending it yet? NoE is basically spitting in the face of their customers.

But they are protecting us and our children. They are the Messiah.


...


Well they are saving people from buying games for the WiiU, and scare 3rd parties away that way, so I guess it's not all bad. At least that way, no one gets tempted to actually buy full games for their WiiU console and then being stuck with them on that one console.
Haunted
(12-07-2012, 05:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

Its pegi 18

Now I'm confused. The eshop doesn't even use a country's rating system? It's USK 16 in Germany and shouldn't be affected by this shit in the first place.
frankie_baby
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(12-07-2012, 05:13 PM)

Originally Posted by B.O.O.M

haha no one actually believes the PR BS right?

the greater good

We haven't really heard from PR on the subject yet, just customer support
Coen
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(12-07-2012, 05:14 PM)
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Oh ffs, this is why you've build parental controls, Nintendo!
fabricated backlash
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(12-07-2012, 05:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Coen

Oh ffs, this is why you've build parental controls, Nintendo!

Can't be sure enough, a poor unsuspecting adult might stumble upon this filth at 3pm, what then?

Meanwhile 3rd parties will most likely leave ship sooner rather than later. Can't imagine them being happy with Nintendo prioritizing their catalogue by default, while limiting their offerings to 4 hours a day.

It's an even bigger insult to 3rd parties than anything else, and they are not complying with any law in europe, they are overcompensating for their own lazyness.
Neo C.
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(12-07-2012, 05:21 PM)
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NoE needs to move to Switzerland: Lower taxes, no stupid german laws and perhaps a job for me as a translator. :p
frankie_baby
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(12-07-2012, 05:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Neo C.

NoE needs to move to Switzerland: Lower taxes, no stupid german laws and perhaps a job for me as a translator. :p

After seeing Switzerland's VAT rate I'm shocked Nintendo doesn't at least move the eshop there
Bob White
(12-07-2012, 05:43 PM)
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Why isn't this thread huge yet? Why isn't the issue huge yet? Come on Euro gaf, throw some gasoline on this and make a change happen.
Arabian Mage
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(12-07-2012, 05:47 PM)
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If not letting me buy games is "good", then I don't want to be good...
ffdgh
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(12-07-2012, 05:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bob White

Why isn't this thread huge yet? Why isn't the issue huge yet? Come on Euro gaf, throw some gasoline on this and make a change happen.

Once the rest of the internet catch this and then possibly cause an outrage, NoE will have to probably fix this unless they want more bad press against the wii u.
jimi_dini
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(12-07-2012, 05:58 PM)
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I don't think Ubisoft and Activision will like this, at all. Do any online service (like youtube) do the same on Germany?

Originally Posted by Xater

Of course not. Only Nintendo is this stupid.

You sure?


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