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Coldnoodle
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(12-12-2012, 01:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Maedhros

Do we really think that Wii U will keep selling that strong next week/months?

I think it well sell decently into January. After that I don't know D:
Mpl90
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(12-12-2012, 01:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alextended

Wish it was doing as well outside Japan. Just release games Nintendo, content sells systems, even if it seems like a loss to localize games that don't get mega sales in the long run it's good to have that kind of library variety for all tastes. If it was doing nearly as good in the West I'd probably have one already and not fear of what support it will get here. As it is I mostly want it for Monster Hunter. 3G which I don't mind too much it won't be online and 4 which will be online on 3DS too. But by the time 4 comes out it might be a dead platform in the West, 3G may have underperformed here, and then they don't even localize 4 and/or wait for 4G.

Naaaah. 3DS dead in 2014 seems a very big claim to do. Especially since there's no sign of piracy incoming.
Kraker2k
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(12-12-2012, 01:47 PM)

11./01. [PS3] 2nd Super Robot Wars OG # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥8.379) - 24.175 / 241.885 (-89%)

I was wondering, does this take into account the various special and limited editions along with online sales from places like Play-Asia and stuff?
slaughterking
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(12-12-2012, 01:48 PM)
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Vita's one year anniversary is in five days. Hmm.
Moor-Angol
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(12-12-2012, 01:50 PM)

Originally Posted by electroplankton

Pokémon starting to show legs, as expected (not by someone, though).

10./05. [3DS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Dungeon <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.11.23} (¥4.800) - 34.598 / 202.940 (-18%)

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team 3rd week : 39,701 / 234,618

it will turn out like the last entry, no more and no less
allan-bh
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(12-12-2012, 01:50 PM)
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Vita will have an unprecedented year end sales for as "serious" platform in Japan (Not a Xbox, Neo Geo Pocket, Wonderswan, etc...)
Lord_Byron28
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(12-12-2012, 01:52 PM)
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For comparisons sake, Wii Sports sold 176K launch week compared to NSMBU's 170K.

Originally Posted by Alextended

Wish it was doing as well outside Japan. Just release games Nintendo, content sells systems, even if it seems like a loss to localize games that don't get mega sales in the long run it's good to have that kind of library variety for all tastes. If it was doing nearly as good in the West I'd probably have one already and not fear of what support it will get here. As it is I mostly want it for Monster Hunter. 3G which I don't mind too much it won't be online and 4 which will be online on 3DS too. But by the time 4 comes out it might be a dead platform in the West, 3G may have underperformed here, and then they don't even localize 4 and/or wait for 4G.

3DS is definitely struggling in the west but it is not close to the level of being dead. Not too mention I'm sure animal crossing and the next pokemon will be out before MH4 which will help things. Also, other than the poor decision to not localize animal crossing I think Nintendo's 3DS support has been good this year. A lot of the localization issues are coming from 3rd parties taking forever.
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(12-12-2012, 01:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Naaaah. 3DS dead in 2014 seems a very big claim to do. Especially since there's no sign of piracy incoming.

Just an exaggeration...

And when was it confirmed for Western release in 2014?

And yeah 3rd parties are at "fault" for not localizing too but on their end it makes sense, they want software sales and don't care to support the hardware itself which is what Nintendo should do, so Nintendo should work with more of them to bring their games here and cultivate the platform in a way they too will want to support more in the future. Not just for big titles like DQ.
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Diddy Kong
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(12-12-2012, 01:53 PM)
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3DS is on fire!
Celine
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(12-12-2012, 01:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exterminieren

Why the hell did Wii rise this week?

Because it's a Nintendo system in December.
nickcv
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(12-12-2012, 01:53 PM)
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Software - Media Create (top 20)




Software - Famitsu (top 30)

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Mpl90
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(12-12-2012, 01:54 PM)
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07./10. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 52.501 / 1.494.351 (+76%)
14./13. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) # <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 14.787 / 65.970 (+23%)
15./14. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 14.591 / 267.723 (+46%)
17./19. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800) - 11.215 / 189.351 (+78%)
18./18. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 9.638 / 290.608 (+53%)
20./25. [3DS] Aikatsu! Cinderella Lesson <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.15} (¥5.040) - 8.518 / 28.225 (+67%)
21./28. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 8.253 / 1.848.466 (+70%)
22./26. [3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.07.26} (¥5.040) - 7.951 / 150.906 (+58%)
23./30. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 7.154 / 1.733.833 (+66%)

Dat power of the Holidays.
Lord_Byron28
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(12-12-2012, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alextended

Just an exaggeration...

And when was it confirmed for Western release in 2014?

It isn't but it's not unlikely given it took Nintendo a year and a half to localize mh tri G. There's always been a substantial delay between Japanese and western MH releases.
Alextended
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(12-12-2012, 01:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord_Byron28

It isn't

Ok, too bad, I thought at least one (if the smaller one) of my fears could be put to rest.
mclem
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(12-12-2012, 01:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Exterminieren

Why the hell did Wii rise this week?

Hasn't that been the bobbing it's been doing from statistical noise for a while? It's hardly a huge rise.
liger05
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(12-12-2012, 02:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

07./10. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 52.501 / 1.494.351 (+76%)
14./13. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) # <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 14.787 / 65.970 (+23%)
15./14. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 14.591 / 267.723 (+46%)
17./19. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800) - 11.215 / 189.351 (+78%)
18./18. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 9.638 / 290.608 (+53%)
20./25. [3DS] Aikatsu! Cinderella Lesson <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.15} (¥5.040) - 8.518 / 28.225 (+67%)
21./28. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 8.253 / 1.848.466 (+70%)
22./26. [3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.07.26} (¥5.040) - 7.951 / 150.906 (+58%)
23./30. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 7.154 / 1.733.833 (+66%)

Dat power of the Holidays.

DAMN. Holiday power in action.

Given the Vita troubles what would be a realistic target HW sales weekly during the holiday season. I mean is it fair to say they should be hitting at least 30k a week?
Nekki
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(12-12-2012, 02:04 PM)
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I think Vita will be at 15k two weeks in a row, then 9k, then disappear as usual.

I hope to be wrong.
allan-bh
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(12-12-2012, 02:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by liger05

DAMN. Holiday power in action.

Given the Vita troubles what would be a realistic target HW sales weekly during the holiday season. I mean is it fair to say they should be hitting at least 30k a week?

At least 30K?

At this point i'd say that's optimistic.
lunchwithyuzo
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(12-12-2012, 02:08 PM)
I wonder if Wii can creep up beat out Vita any weeks this holiday?
Chris1964
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(12-12-2012, 02:16 PM)
HARDWARE

Code:

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |    211.499 |    167.408 |    350.321 |  4.517.235 |  3.234.299 |   8.799.378 |
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What about the theory that 3DS would top last year's holiday sales?
Yoshi
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(12-12-2012, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by allan-bh

Vita will have an unprecedented year end sales for as "serious" platform in Japan (Not a Xbox, Neo Geo Pocket, Wonderswan, etc...)

Sure about that? GCN was also doing horribly but as far as I remember it always was relatively strong at year's end. Maybe Vita will end the year on a strong note, too.
Kazerei
(12-12-2012, 02:21 PM)
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It will be interesting to see how Wii U does next year.
Chris1964
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(12-12-2012, 02:21 PM)
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201212/12025863.html

I lost the count for the number of hw bundles enterbrain adds into software sales.
allan-bh
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(12-12-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

HARDWARE

What about the theory that 3DS would top last year's holiday sales?

Last year have Mario Kart 7 and Monster Hunter 3G in december, so it's not easy to beat.
Malvingt2
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(12-12-2012, 02:22 PM)
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Nice numbers all around..
Cosmo Clock 21
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(12-12-2012, 02:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kraker2k

I was wondering, does this take into account the various special and limited editions along with online sales from places like Play-Asia and stuff?

Even if it did the sales count would fall into statistical noise.

Vita holding steady at 11k units!
allan-bh
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(12-12-2012, 02:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Sure about that? GCN was also doing horribly but as far as I remember it always was relatively strong at year's end. Maybe Vita will end the year on a strong note, too.

11k in this week doesn't indicate that.
Mpl90
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(12-12-2012, 02:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by allan-bh

11k in this week doesn't indicate that.

11k in Week 49 are almost 360-like numbers for the same week in 2007-2008, from what I've seen.
Lord_Byron28
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(12-12-2012, 02:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kazerei

It will be interesting to see how Wii U does next year.

3DS chart run in this graph as it shoots straight out of the flop list. That gap between dreamcast and vita is widening.
Yoshi
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(12-12-2012, 02:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

11k in Week 49 are almost 360-like numbers for the same week in 2007-2008, from what I've seen.

What did GCN do in an equivalent week?
watershed
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(12-12-2012, 02:31 PM)
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Is there anything of note coming out for the 3d before the end of the year or is it just AC and Paper Mario to lead the charge?
Chris1964
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(12-12-2012, 02:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Road

Up until last week 4Gamer wrote "3DSLL" (all together) and this week they wrote "3DS LL" (with a space). It was a problem to me, I guess for Chris1964 too.

First time after a long time I am in front of PC in time, there is complete match for sw titles, I guess correctly they'd use "Wii U" and not "WiiU" and don't run out of RAM. I think I post the thread without mistake in less than a minute, leave and when I come back 5 minutes later I see something is wrong with 3DS hw.
slaughterking
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(12-12-2012, 02:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by watershed

Is there anything of note coming out for the 3d before the end of the year or is it just AC and Paper Mario to lead the charge?

Inazuma Eleven and Fantasy Life. But who knows what Level 5 will do to them.
frankie_baby
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(12-12-2012, 02:34 PM)

Originally Posted by watershed

Is there anything of note coming out for the 3d before the end of the year or is it just AC and Paper Mario to lead the charge?

IE go 2, its out tomorrow
Lord_Byron28
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(12-12-2012, 02:36 PM)
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Is it true animal crossing won't have another shipment until new years? If so that's pretty grim for AC's numbers for the rest of the holiday season.
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(12-12-2012, 02:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by watershed

Is there anything of note coming out for the 3d before the end of the year or is it just AC and Paper Mario to lead the charge?

Fantasy Life? But it comes out the 27th.
frankie_baby
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(12-12-2012, 02:38 PM)

Originally Posted by Lord_Byron28

No but as can be seen it doesn't matter as much since people are also purchasing lots of older titles too.

Is it true animal crossing won't have another shipment until new years? If so that's pretty grim for AC's numbers for the rest of the holiday season.

amazon were saying the 21st the other day
lunchwithyuzo
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(12-12-2012, 02:41 PM)
Maybe AC shortages will help FL? (lol)
Hero of Legend
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(12-12-2012, 02:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

Fantasy Life? But it comes out the 27th.

I hope Brownie Brown will now be free to make more 3DS games. I want to see Magical Vacation 3, or even another Blue Dragon from them, but solo (feelplus helped with BD Plus).

Or better yet, a brand-new RPG with Grezzo, both teams were behind the Mana series at SE.
lunchwithyuzo
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(12-12-2012, 02:42 PM)
Mother 3(D make)?
Augemitbutter
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(12-12-2012, 02:43 PM)
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Layton vs AA is such a bomba. repeat.

good for Yakuza 5.
Father_Brain
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(12-12-2012, 02:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Culex

Vita sales actually DECREASED?! Japan really must hate the Vita. Will it break 50k the other 3 weeks this month?

Japan doesn't "hate" Vita. Its problem is that it sorely lacks exclusive content that appeals to the Japanese market.

On a related note, I'm genuinely curious as to why Bandai Namco and Koei Tecmo are still so bullish on Vita. Well, not that bullish - nearly all their upcoming titles are late ports or multiplatform with one of the other Sony platforms - but certainly relative to other Japanese third parties.
frankie_baby
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(12-12-2012, 02:45 PM)

Originally Posted by lunchwithyuzo

Mother 3(D make)?

how about finishing off the n64 version for 3ds
Kenka
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(12-12-2012, 02:46 PM)
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Shit software sales for WiiU.
3DS hardware sales unflattering in y2y comparison.



Last edited by Kenka; 12-12-2012 at 02:48 PM.
frankie_baby
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(12-12-2012, 02:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Father_Brain

Japan doesn't "hate" Vita. Its problem is that it sorely lacks exclusive content that appeals to the Japanese market.

On a related note, I'm genuinely curious as to why Bandai Namco and Koei Tecmo are still so bullish on Vita. Well, not that bullish - nearly all their upcoming titles are late ports or multiplatform with one of the other Sony platforms - but certainly relative to other Japanese third parties.

its pretty likely anything being announced now was green lit a long time ago, probably when they still thought it had a chance to make a comeback
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(12-12-2012, 02:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

its pretty likely anything being announced now was green lit a long time ago, probably when they still thought it had a chance to make a comeback

Wasnt there talk that many Vita games were canceled when they saw the hardware sales?
frankie_baby
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(12-12-2012, 02:52 PM)

Originally Posted by test_account

Wasnt there talk that many Vita games were canceled when they saw the hardware sales?

its probable many have been but we'll never know
Father_Brain
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(12-12-2012, 02:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

its pretty likely anything being announced now was green lit a long time ago, probably when they still thought it had a chance to make a comeback

Perhaps. But it's worth noting that Capcom, Konami, and Square Enix have (AFAIK) announced literally nothing for Vita this year, and I don't think even Sega has announced anything for it in over six months, since JSR.
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

its probable many have been but we'll never know

It is possible. They would however had plenty of time to cancel these games as well if they wanted it since we have seen the poor Vita hardware sales for a long time. I dont think they are coming just because it was greenlit a while ago. I think it has more to do with being a port (probably not too expencive in developement cost) and some deal with Sony. Maybe hardware bundles and help with marketing the games.
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(12-12-2012, 02:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by test_account

Wasnt there talk that many Vita games were canceled when they saw the hardware sales?

Almost certain some did, or rather like Bioshock, never entered development. 3DS was publically stated to have that as a potential problem and that was doing far better than the Vita was at a similar timespan.

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