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(12-12-2012, 03:28 PM)
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#201
Nintendo having nearly 90% of the entire country's hardware sales is pretty insane.
multiple titles showing their legs and popping back up on the charts while poor Vita doesn't even get a holiday bump :\ and I agree about the Wii-U software situation in 2013, Nintendo is really keeping their cards too close to their chest there. One of many mistakes Sony made with the Vita was they had a solid launch but the future was, and sadly pretty much still is, a huge question mark. Future titles need to be revealed to build consumer confidence. Hopefully there's a nintendo direct coming to do just that, it'd be a pretty big mistake to wait all the way until e3/tgs 2013 to start showing games beyond the few we know about in q1/q2 2013. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:29 PM)
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#202
What a damning argument against the creation of Vita software.
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(12-12-2012, 03:30 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 03:32 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 03:33 PM)
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#207
While that's not great, Nintendo HAS taken some steps to reveal future titles. It's not like the future of the Wii U is completely up in the air. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:33 PM)
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#208
Don't forget, those predictions were for 25 days of Paper Mario.
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Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
(12-12-2012, 03:34 PM)
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#209
E3 saw nothing from Japan, no COD, no EA sports, no Epic Mickey- then those were all announced 2 months before release. Same thing appears to be happening with Need for Speed, F1 Allstars, and most likely Blacklist. There is clearly nothing coming in Japan for January into February, but thinking there is no support coming for months after that strikes me as premature given Japan's short announcement to release times I'm general plus Nintendo's baffling strategy. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:34 PM)
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(12-12-2012, 03:34 PM)
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#211
I think it'll be interesting to see how Inazuma Eleven Go 2 performs. In general the 3DS has not been kind to Level-5 at all. They had fast and relatively easy success on the DS, but all their franchises have struggled on the 3DS, and none of their new IPs have really taken off at all. Tough times for Hino.
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(12-12-2012, 03:36 PM)
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#213
We've seen that it's fairly pretty common for Japanese devs to announce a game much closer to release date than their Western counterparts. Maybe that applies here as well.
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(12-12-2012, 03:37 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 03:39 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 03:39 PM)
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And to be fair, I think a lot of this also has to do with the previous gen setting expectations. People are probably expecting less from 3rd parties for the successor to Wii than they are the successor to PSP. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:39 PM)
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#217
Overall excellent numbers here for sure. 3ds is simply going crazy in Japan. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:40 PM)
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#218
Layton would still be huge if there was only one entry every two years at the beginning of the franchise. |
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(12-12-2012, 03:43 PM)
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#219
It's just amusing to see that based on their sales record since they took on publishing, they're the very definition of a fad. I think the 3DS created a bigger problem for them because whenever there is a generational shift, it gives people a chance to hop off of franchises they're tired of, especially if they don't have the new system yet. It simply accelerated the decline the franchises were already facing. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:45 PM)
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Super Adventure Boxing
(12-12-2012, 03:45 PM)
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#221
There certainly don't seem to be any 3DS announcement blocks, so there must be a reason why they would do one and not the other. That reason doesn't have to be "there aren't many titles", but I do have trouble deciding on too many other obvious ones. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:48 PM)
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(12-12-2012, 03:48 PM)
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#223
They're a private company, and they have no need to release any financials to the public, so they don't.
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Samus made me a Widower :(
(12-12-2012, 03:49 PM)
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#224
In Japan, given their stronger ties with local third parties, Nintendo actually had (has?) a better chance of bridging the Wii/PS3 casual/core divide by getting HD core titles, first-party Nintendo titles, Monster Hunter, and Dragon Quest on the same platform. Basically, the successful Japanese 3DS strategy translated to consoles. It doesn't seem to be working out that way, likely due to the same ecosystem concerns that are keeping many Western multiplatform titles off the system, but it makes sense in theory. |
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Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
(12-12-2012, 03:50 PM)
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#226
Again I am not trying to say there are megatons coming for April or anything- just saying that unannounced software coming in 2013 is exceedingly likely and that I would say Nintendo has a clear MO right now with holding off on software announcements for Wii U (and I think this is completely wrong btw). One more point- Nintendo isnt even dating its own Q1 stuff yet, which gives me more confidence they have some sort of Nintendo Direct coming. |
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Corporate Ballwasher
Ignore everything I say (12-12-2012, 03:52 PM)
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#227
I don't think with the types of marketshare Nintendo is getting 3rd parties can really ignore them, they probably won't have a choice about support.
Last get PSP really pumped up Sony and so typical small and mid-sized Sony devs could at least profit there. Vita is probably not going to make a comeback at this point. Those devs will either go iOS or 3DS. Same with consoles. Sony held up the HD game but even late gen it's not doing great, probably not enough to hold the line for another year and then trudge through another slow, expensive Playstation launch while PS4 ramps up. Sure western Xbox gamers are becoming a target for large studios but it will have similar problems and it's hard to completely ignore the domestic market situation where it will be a non-factor. I think any new console given the raise in expense will suffer increasingly slow launches and if it takes another 3-4 years for next-gen to hit it's stride Nintendo will be the only game in town. |
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Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
(12-12-2012, 03:54 PM)
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#228
1- I do think this is partly Nintendo overcompensating for the 3DS unveil where a ton of franchises were announced that ended up releasing late or not releasing at all. 2- I do not believe Nintendo has a lot of software lined up for Q1-Q2 in Japan. I think they have more than they have shown, but I don't think they have that much. So I completely agree with you there. As far as next Fall/Winter, Nintendo's own actions and Japan's general way of doing things tells me you cannot read any thing into the 2013 second half lineup right now. |
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Super Adventure Boxing
(12-12-2012, 03:55 PM)
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#229
I mean, from the perspective of Konami and FROM Software, how much do they really stand to benefit? My main concern in regards to Final Fantasy is that Square Enix might view appearing to have absolute top of the top tier graphics and technology as being incredibly important to Final Fantasy in the West, at which point trying to build the game in a way that makes it portable to Wii U could become unappealing. I have to imagine there was some reason they didn't make a more serious go of Final Fantasy on the Wii, and I could see that logic transitioning over to its successor, whereas a series like Dragon Quest decides to go all in on the Wii/Wii U and not show up on other platforms at all for following the other half of this logic (not worth the time targeting a more core-heavy oriented platform).
You can't even read most of the West's Fall 2013 line-up right now and they announce much earlier. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:57 PM)
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#230
3rd party software YTD (Famitsu, not all software, only top 30):
PS3: 7.05 3DS: 5.52 PSP: 4.04 Wii: 1.03 PSV: 0.93 360: 0.33 DS: 0.15 millions of units. Just Dance Wii 1 and 2, Mario & Sonic are "first party". The best selling Wii 3rd party games are: DQX, last year's Taiko, Go Vacation and this year's Taiko. |
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(12-12-2012, 03:57 PM)
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#231
There are times when I can accept Nintendo being Nintendo. This is not one of those times. I feel Nintendo should be a lot more aggressive with announcing titles for the Wii U. Iwata stated that they learned from their mistakes with the launch of the 3DS and I'm just not seeing that right now. |
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Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
(12-12-2012, 03:58 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 04:01 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 04:03 PM)
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#235
Sticker Star by itself is not a bad game, but the general consensus is that the best in the series is still TTYD |
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(12-12-2012, 04:07 PM)
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(12-12-2012, 04:09 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 04:17 PM)
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#239
They seemed to take a knee-jerk response and decided to do the complete opposite when they should be taking a middle ground. It seems kinda stupid to do that for Wii U when Wii U had a much much stronger launch lineup than the 3DS to support itself until those appealing far away titles came. I dont doubt Nintendo is keeping peoples mouths shut. They held the unveilment of Activisions entire lineup and others like Epic Mickey 2 until September. We have evidence of other multiplatform games coming but no official unveil. On top of that, I dont think most major 3rd party JAPANESE publishers are going to sit out like they appear to be. Capcom has such poor presence on the Wii U and its so uncharacteristic of them to be this MIA for the start of a new platform. |
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Sales-Age Genius
(12-12-2012, 04:23 PM)
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#241
Until a tile is confirmed to have a Wii U version it hasn't, so simple. |
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(12-12-2012, 04:30 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 04:31 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 04:31 PM)
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(12-12-2012, 04:36 PM)
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#249
Very nice numbers for 3DS and Wii U! Sad to see Vita sell almost half as good as PSP does :/ I still don't get it why suddenly Vita is getting a resurge of big ip games when its selling so bad as it is right now while 3DS is is sky rocketing into the sun :/ I hope this doesn't become a trend where developers start to ignore 3DS and start making Vita games only :(
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(12-12-2012, 04:37 PM)
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