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DR2K
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(01-04-2013, 01:07 AM)
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There's already used WiiU's?
richisawesome
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(01-04-2013, 01:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by DR2K

There's already used WiiU's?

My local CEX has at least 5.
radioheadrule83
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(01-04-2013, 01:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by plainr_

So is digital content tied to the console or the NNID? Or is everything tied to the NNID, which is tied to the console? I'm confus.

The purchase history is tied to the NNID, which can be linked to a Club Nintendo account (that just lets you get loyalty points on the Nintendo rewards site), but I think both NNIDs and downloads themselves are tied to consoles presently. Probably so multiple users on the same system can play the DL without Nintendo having to keep track of multiple user authorizations on their end. Its pretty short sited because its stopping people from swapping games they own to other systems, and even stopping them from using their Nintendo ID on other systems. They have an option for 'existing user' when you register a new user, but you can't recover an NNID Xbox 360 style yet, for some reason.

Essentially if you want to be nice when selling your Wii U, you might want to figure out how this was done and pass the games on!
Box of Bunnies
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(01-04-2013, 01:09 AM)
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The Nintendo Difference™
jbueno
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(01-04-2013, 01:09 AM)
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Did redownloading the games net you any coins or surveys on Club Nintendo? If so, wow at Nintendo.
Eric C
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(01-04-2013, 01:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by plainr_

So is digital content tied to the console or the NNID? Or is everything tied to the NNID, which is tied to the console? I'm confus.

I'm thinking it MIGHT be this. Everything is tied to the NNID, but that NNID is tied to the console so ever other user on the console can play the same games

Because people that got the Wii U repaired were just sent a brand new Wii U and they were able to redownload all their games after they put their previous Nintendo ID on the new system.

So it seems even if you erase it, your Nintendo ID is always locked to the console, and only Nintendo customer service can release it from the console. At least right now it seems it's that way.


I hope when Nintendo ID's come to the 3DS they'll be more portable across both the Wii U and 3DS.
Shinobi
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(01-04-2013, 01:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by DSN2K

whoever owned the console before me purchased multiple games, meaning all the games he purchased are available to redownload for free....This is with a new account btw I setup as well. Games are clearly linked to Console itself. Advice to those buying a second hand WiiU's...check all the games on the Store...you might be in for some "free" games!

tapedeck
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(01-04-2013, 01:14 AM)
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This cant be a real thing...
POWERSPHERE
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(01-04-2013, 01:16 AM)
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As far as I'm concerned you SHOULD be able to give your digital downloads with a system, at least until you decide to register and redownload those games to a new system. I hate this era of not owning purchased content, no matter what the terms have always said. I pay that much money, I should own what I buy.
HawthorneKitty
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(01-04-2013, 01:16 AM)
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Guys, there's always the next generation. :)
Garou
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(01-04-2013, 01:17 AM)
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Instead of going through the catalog one by one, just go to the profile-page -> bought contents.
JavyOO7
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(01-04-2013, 01:17 AM)
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If he linked it to NNID/Club Nintendo you won't be able to have the game under your NNID, I think.
theytookourjobz
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(01-04-2013, 01:21 AM)
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This is the same on 360 fyi. Anything bought on the marketplace is tied to both the gamertag and console independently.
BrokenEchelon
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(01-04-2013, 01:22 AM)
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PR move against Sony's new used games patent, obviously.
freenudemacusers
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(01-04-2013, 01:23 AM)
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This is going to be fun for the original owner if they get another wii u. Dude will probably assume he can just login with his old account info and nab the stuff he purchased, even though the content is technically still in use.
MormaPope
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(01-04-2013, 01:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by theytookourjobz

This is the same on 360 fyi. Anything bought on the marketplace is tied to both the gamertag and console independently.

It's not really the same, if I buy Fez on a friends 360 using my own gamertag, I can only play the full version of Fez when logged in as myself. If I log in as my friend I can only play the trial.
Baconsammy
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(01-04-2013, 01:25 AM)

Originally Posted by theytookourjobz

This is the same on 360 fyi. Anything bought on the marketplace is tied to both the gamertag and console independently.

There's no way of knowing what was previously purchased on the 360, and unless you log in with the gamertag of the person that originally bought it, you won't see the "Download again" message.
xxracerxx
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(01-04-2013, 01:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by theytookourjobz

This is the same on 360 fyi. Anything bought on the marketplace is tied to both the gamertag and console independently.

Yeah.....no. What the two above me said.

Originally Posted by Baconsammy

It's actually tied to both. The license is per console and per gamertag. I can buy a game on my downstairs 360, and then every gamertag on that 360 can play that game online or offline. On my upstairs 360 I will need the gamertag that I bought it with logged in to play it AND the console will need to be always online for it to continue to work.

Yeah I realized I was wrong as soon as I posted.
Baconsammy
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(01-04-2013, 01:28 AM)

Originally Posted by xxracerxx

Yeah.....no. The game is tied to your profile, not the console.

It's actually tied to both. The license is per console and per gamertag. I can buy a game on my downstairs 360, and then every gamertag on that 360 can play that game online or offline. On my upstairs 360 I will need the gamertag that I bought it with logged in to play it AND the console will need to be always online for it to continue to work. So you could sell your 360 to someone and all the games you had purchased without giving them your gamertag, but it's a violation of the TOS, and also dangerous to the buyer since the seller could simply transfer licenses later and all those games will stop working.
DSN2K
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(01-04-2013, 01:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Garou

Instead of going through the catalog one by one, just go to the profile-page -> bought contents.

yep this would be correct.....
Castor Krieg
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(01-04-2013, 01:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Guevara

Oh Nintendo

Originally Posted by xxracerxx

Games tied to the system rather than the profile?

Originally Posted by GraveRobberX

lolwat?

This was known since the beginning.
Mudkips
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(01-04-2013, 01:31 AM)
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Whatever happened to that shit where I'm supposed to get 10% rewards on shit I buy on the eShop or some shit?
NinjaBoiX
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(01-04-2013, 01:31 AM)
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Same shit with the Wii, decide to jump back in after selling previously? Tough, no WiiWare games for you. It's so stupid.
DMPrince
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(01-04-2013, 01:32 AM)
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Nintendo's Coming of Age.
Flame Lord
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(01-04-2013, 01:33 AM)
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Well I can't be upset about that.
Row
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(01-04-2013, 01:34 AM)
Nintendo clearly has some Yakuza roots, except in this case when you try to leave the group they take your games instead of your fingers
BrokenEchelon
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(01-04-2013, 01:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Castor Krieg

This was known since the beginning.

And that somehow makes it ok?
pestul
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(01-04-2013, 01:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by macuser1of5

This is going to be fun for the original owner if they get another wii u. Dude will probably assume he can just login with his old account info and nab the stuff he purchased, even though the content is technically still in use.

I think he created a new NNID on the system though and still had access to all that stuff lol.
pestul
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(01-04-2013, 01:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mudkips

Whatever happened to that shit where I'm supposed to get 10% rewards on shit I buy on the eShop or some shit?

You have to buy over $500 worth of digital content before you can buy a new full release game.
Eric C
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(01-04-2013, 01:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mudkips

Whatever happened to that shit where I'm supposed to get 10% rewards on shit I buy on the eShop or some shit?

Log in here with your Nintendo ID and redeem your points

https://p.nintendo.net/deluxe/
Mudkips
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(01-04-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Eric C

Log in here with your Nintendo ID and redeem your points

https://p.nintendo.net/deluxe/

Didn't know it was live yet. Maybe if Nintendo had said something about it being live I would have known. Now I've got 10 bucks to not spend on the empty eShop!
evilromero
(01-04-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Damn. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe this was an issue on the original Wii. I think once you format the system it's impossible to download the previous owner's games.
elektrixx
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(01-04-2013, 01:56 AM)
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The bizarro online pass!
Pachterballs
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(01-04-2013, 01:59 AM)
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next up.

console pass.
DjRoomba
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(01-04-2013, 02:00 AM)
Isnt this standard for consoles? I sold my 360 with all my games, and account still on it (changed email/password obviously). Advertised it to make some more off the sale. What does it matter, if youre selling, you clearly dont want anything anymore.
enzo_gt
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(01-04-2013, 02:01 AM)
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Wait, why are downloads tied to the consoles and not accounts?

What is the Nintendo account for? Is it an alphanumeric replacement for friend codes and nothing else?
Baconsammy
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(01-04-2013, 02:02 AM)

Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Wait, why are downloads tied to the consoles and not accounts?

What is the Nintendo account for? Is it an alphanumeric replacement for friend codes and nothing else?

Pretty much.
Karsticles
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(01-04-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Wait, why are downloads tied to the consoles and not accounts?

What is the Nintendo account for? Is it an alphanumeric replacement for friend codes and nothing else?

Step-by-step process.
BurnOutBrighter
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(01-04-2013, 02:06 AM)
With all the patent drama today, it's nice to see Nintendo support the second-hand market, even though they don't want to.
polyh3dron
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(01-04-2013, 02:07 AM)
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Yup Nintendo's digital sales policy is horrible. We've had multiple threads on this. It's why I haven't bought anything in the Wii U's eShop and won't in the future.
Camp Lo
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(01-04-2013, 02:13 AM)
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Wait... does the 3DS have the same issue??

I sold my 3DS a while ago with a ton of games downloaded via that eShop shit.

I'll have to get another 3DS.
Oemenia
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(01-04-2013, 02:13 AM)
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Online accounts are so not innovative!
Jomjom
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(01-04-2013, 02:16 AM)
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What you all aren't getting is that this is actually Nintendo's ambassador program for the WiiU.
DSFan1970
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(01-04-2013, 02:18 AM)

Originally Posted by BigNastyCurve

Nintendo will never get the fucking online portion right. Never. They were light-years behind in 2006. They're arguably worse even today with the advent of the Wii U.

Can't someone on here or in the gaming media confront Reggie in an interview about this? This 2013 dammit.
Skyzard
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(01-04-2013, 02:18 AM)
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That's nice as I would only buy a WiiU used anyway seeing as it's too overpriced and outdated for my liking.

Glad to see there might be extra bonuses...but I can easily wait, probably a few years too, if it is still alive/remembered or gets some games by then I might get to snag quite a few extras.
Last edited by Skyzard; 01-04-2013 at 02:27 AM.
CambriaRising
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(01-04-2013, 02:19 AM)
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This is insane. So if your wiiu is stolen there is no way for you to lock someone out from your games AND you lose your account?

What the fuck Nintendo.
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enzo_gt
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(01-04-2013, 02:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Karsticles

Step-by-step process.

Feels like something you should roll out at once, the most functional stuff about having an account. The mobile apps and whatnot can come later, but I feel like it was rushed (which also begs the question as to how it was so rushed when they've had so much time since the Wii came out) and they're planning a relaunch later. Launching a console with accounts and implementing account-tied ownership after people can buy stuff is a slippery slope and massive oversight.

And even when Nintendo's next console comes out, my guess is that it will only have parity with 360's DRM, which isn't that great either.

Originally Posted by Holy Crap

Wait... does the 3DS have the same issue??

I sold my 3DS a while ago with a ton of games downloaded via that eShop shit.

I'll have to get another 3DS.

Seems like it. And this is before
MrDaravon
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(01-04-2013, 02:20 AM)
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While we already knew that purchases were tied to the console alone (which is stupid but has been discussed), if doing a full system wipe still doesn't wipe out the purchase history as the OP has since indicated then holy shit.
ozfunghi
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(01-04-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by xxracerxx

Good god. So that means you have to go through every full game and see if it was purchased before?

Fucking Nintendo. Why not make it easier to exploit their software.
Kerub
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(01-04-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Holy shit that's great. Imagine in a couple of years, when most people that decide to sell their systems already has made lots of purchases. Used Wii U's will be A LOT more valuable than new Wii U's.

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