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Moaradin
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(01-05-2013, 06:41 PM)
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Lost me at the Linux part, sadly.
2+2=5
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Oh man i really hope for a closed pc like c64 and amiga, with new models every 3-4 years, if so d1.
Linux is not so promising for games tough.
Shion
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(01-05-2013, 06:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Pray For Death

Isn't Steam's vast library its greatest strength though? Having a limited Linux selection wouldn't be very appealing.

The "next-gen games + Steam prices" combo is enough for me.
Dambrosi
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Originally Posted by Proxy

Look forward to people hyping themselves up for amazing disappointment.

Perhaps the same could be said of all next-gen fanboys...

Gabe's words are as empty as our Steam Wallets! PC Gaming ill needs a saviour such as Linux!
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Originally Posted by Wazzim

Is Linux able to DirectX?

No you would have to have an OpenGL version.
Vol5
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Originally Posted by Wazzim

Is Linux able to DirectX?

No, but then is PS3 DirectX?

People need to stop thinking it will be "DOA" because it's not Windows. It's crazy talk.
ChosenPredator
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Originally Posted by Felix Lighter

What are the other options? It's linux or develop a completely new OS. Windows isn't a real option because then they would just be releasing Steam branded gaming PCs and there really is no profit in that and they gain no more control than they already have.

well I must say it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming months,
more competition the better forces everyone else to up their game.
Exuro
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So are the games going to be pc titles on linux(with perhaps special settings for steam box systems?) or more console-like? I think I'd much prefer the first if it were possible.
Proxy
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Originally Posted by Dambrosi

Perhaps the same could be said of all next-gen fanboys...

Gabe's words are as empty as our Steam Wallets! PC Gaming ill needs a saviour such as Linux!

Yes, and?
Sid
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(01-05-2013, 06:43 PM)
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So how does the current steam library carry over?
Alextended
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So, is it a console or a PC? If it's a console, I don't want it, it won't have any of the Steam/PC advantages (the library is of course included in this) in order to conform to people's expectations for a console, plus they're not going to have a pull bigger than Microsoft's in that space which makes me question the market potential. While if it's a PC, again I don't care, unless I can get nice parts cheaper than elsewhere with it, but it still won't really affect anything in the grand scheme of things imo, when people can just as well buy any PC, stick Linux on it and install Steam, why pay for the brand on top (again unless it's cheaper than elsewhere). Using the term Steambox doesn't shed light on what they intend to do, unless the guy said console, I wish they'd clear that up. But right now I just can't see how this could be anything truly significant whichever route they take, PC or console, since they can't do both in one like some people seem to think you can have a console a la Xbox yet run the whole Steam library or even just the Linux library, yet absolutely none of what they think is too complex or annoying about PC gaming, ie, settings, performance, need to upgrade, etc. PC and console are mutually exclusive approaches. I guess it might be a little innovative if it's the first fully digital distribution based console (then again, PSP Go) but that's the extent of the appeal I can see coming, and the other companies can easily adjust to match, put more focus on having every title available digitally etc, and maybe adjust pricing if the Steambox does it cheaper and seems like it could evolve into a significant threat.
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TheExodu5
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Called it. I don't know why there were so many doubters.
Orayn
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Originally Posted by Exuro

So are the games going to be pc title on linux(with perhaps special settings for steam box systems?) or more console-like? I think I'd much prefer the first if it were possible.

They'll definitely be PC games, though there's bound to be an emphasis on Big Picture Mode friendly titles given all the talk about Valve moving PCs into the living room.
chuckddd
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(01-05-2013, 06:44 PM)
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This is going to be absolutely awesome if it takes off. Imagine all of the open source apps that could be running on your SteamBox. If Valve can get the community involved, it'll be great.
Meelow
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Megaton, really excited for Steambox!

Question though would this be competing with WiiU/PS4/X720 (aka now being big 4?) or is it like Ouya, etc?
qwerty2k
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I don't see back catalogue as an issue to launch with...

People who have a back catalogue already have a device to play that catalogue on. Any future games if Valve can convince big publishers to port to linux/steambox then i think it makes their platform viable. I'm sure as it becomes more popular older back catalogue titles will be ported to it.
TrutaS
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(01-05-2013, 06:45 PM)
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If it offer the ideal way for playing Half-life 3 then that is were my money goes...
desu
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- will run linux
- according to Krasnow, Valve is working on AR/VR projects, no clear mention if we will see any of them in 2013
- reveal of Steam Box won't be the only thing for 2013, they are working on other secret projects (hardware ;)) which they plan to release in 2013
- they are saying it will be interesting to see if Valve will show of Steam Box at GDC or if we have to wait until E3

I saw no mentioning of an actual release of the Steam Box in 2013. That might happen, but it's not said in the article.
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JaseC
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(01-05-2013, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vol5

No, but then is PS3 DirectX?

People need to stop thinking it will be "DOA" because it's not Windows. It's crazy talk.

The PS3 uses its own proprietary graphics API, although OpenGL ES plays a part.
Eideka
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(01-05-2013, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Orayn

Valve did hint at working on a (powerful?) toolkit for porting DirectX games to OpenGL in one of their Steam for Linux blog entries.

And will the developpers make any use of that ? Will it be possible for hundreds of game to work on the Steambox ?
Frankly I don't see how this thing can compete in the console space unless it is massively more powerful than the rest.
Exuro
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(01-05-2013, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orayn

They'll definitely be PC games, though there's bound to be an emphasis on Big Picture Mode friendly titles given all the talk about Valve moving PCs into the living room.

Hmm so will there be a benefit to using a Steambox vs your PC(Seeing as I like having my word processors and such) or is this for more market penetration?
Saty
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Hope this means they are going with a PC-centric E3 conference ; an idea they suggested for last year.

Dream Scenario: Valve putting a PC conference at E3. Showing PC exclusives and multiplatforms. Just before it ends Gabe comes on the stage: 'Oh, every game and live demo you saw this past hour and a half where running on Steambox' *removes piece of cloth to reveal the console and talk about the specs and all*.
CrunchyFrog
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Wonder if they might include some kind of windows wrapper/emu for compatibility or if they are really going straight linux cold turkey. It would essentially then become it's own entity separate from steam.
iNvid02
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some guy on reddit made this. only problem is who is going to be fronting the cost for this stuff

MrNyarlathotep
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(01-05-2013, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Eideka

Linux-based ?

This thing is DOA. No way big publishers are going to port their games to the Steambox in that case unless Valve offers something significant in exchange.

Valve might have been most vocal about it, but it's not like every publisher and developer out there working on the PC is super enthusiastic about the shits MS pulling with Windows 8 marketplace.

Originally Posted by TheExodu5

Called it. I don't know why there were so many doubters.

Yeah, I hope a lot of posters from that other thread about Steambox most likely being linux based are enjoying their crow about now
Orayn
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Originally Posted by Exuro

Hmm so will there be a benefit to using a Steambox vs your PC(Seeing as I like having my word processors and such) or is this for more market penetration?

More market penetration is what I'd say. This isn't necessarily aimed at people who have a PC and a big library of Windows games already, but anyone who's interested PC gaming but doesn't have a very capable PC and/or wants to play them on a TV with a controller.
golem
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Originally Posted by arab

HL3 FOR LAUNCH

Do it Gaben
Gianni Merryman
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Steam taking sides with Linux is something I could not predict a couple years ago, but since they announced Steam for Linux and a SteamBox rumours were becoming persistent, I saw this coming.

If the price is competitive and the line-up, features and specs are good enough, this could potentially change scenarios - and not only in console market, but it could also affect OS market -, seeing how poweful Steam has winned a big mindshare in these years.
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Calidor
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HL3, TF2, Dota2 and Portal 3: best launch lineup ever?
kunonabi
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If I can play cyberpunk on it I'll bite. I'm not getting a 720 or ps4 anyway.
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Derrick01
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Originally Posted by Orayn

Valve did hint at working on a (powerful?) toolkit for porting DirectX games to OpenGL in one of their Steam for Linux blog entries.

They also need to port over something like d3doverrider so I don't have to use vsync in game and take a performance hit. As far as I know that doesn't work for OpenGL games.
AppleSmack
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I really hate Microsoft's dominance on the PC market. I hope this puts a significant amount of competition for them so we can finally be free from their boot. I'm highly considering this system. Think I will take it over the other consoles.
DrForester
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(01-05-2013, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by iNvid02

hmmm

JaseC
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(01-05-2013, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Derrick01

They also need to port over something like d3doverrider so I don't have to use vsync in game and take a performance hit. As far as I know that doesn't work for OpenGL games.

There's no need when you can force triple buffering at the driver level.
TreIII
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(01-05-2013, 06:51 PM)
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Tentatively interested. Especially if this:

Originally Posted by Orayn

Valve did hint at working on a (powerful?) toolkit for porting DirectX games to OpenGL in one of their Steam for Linux blog entries.

...becomes something that's actually supported.
Clay Davis
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(01-05-2013, 06:51 PM)
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insanity.

not sure what else to say to such a move. insanity.
giancarlo123x
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It would be cool if this encouraged some developers to make their older games compatible.
Jadedx
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Dead on Arrival
FOOTE
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Give it to me now.
Relaxed Muscle
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Originally Posted by alexandros


- Valve's console will launch in 2013



- It will use Linux, not Windows

aeolist
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I really want a Valve controller so I can get rid of this 360 pad and its various inadequacies.

Bonus points for a small touchscreen in the middle.
KPJZKC
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(01-05-2013, 06:54 PM)
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HL3 Linux Exclusive, lol
stktt
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2013 will finally be the year of Linux.
x3sphere
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All other consoles run on non Windows operating systems, have those been DOA too? Don't get some of the logic in this thread...
Mario007
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So is this Valve basically entering the console race? And if so, can we expect to have it be very powerful, with Valve games being exclusive to it?
CrunchyFrog
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Originally Posted by iNvid02

some guy on reddit made this. only problem is who is going to be fronting the cost for this stuff

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZNe5P.jpg[IMG]

that's pretty much the idea I had in mind when they first announced this project. There's definitely a market I think for a user friendly console experience on an upgradeable PC. I'm not so sure about the "valve brand GPU" bit, but something modular like that would be plausible.
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Originally Posted by x3sphere

All other consoles run on non Windows operating systems, have those been DOA too? Don't get some of the logic in this thread...

I don't want 80% of my Steam games not avaliable on a SteamBox. Dosn't make sense...
alexandros
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Originally Posted by Yoshi

translating, always updating when I have a new section finished.

Thanks for the translation!
aeolist
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Wait did anyone really expect this to be Windows-based? Microsoft wouldn't license their OS to someone who wants to strip out the entire front end UI and put in an alternate software storefront.

This just means that Valve has an enormously powerful motivation to make Linux a top-shelf gaming OS. It's going to be awesome (probably not at first though).
Durante
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(01-05-2013, 06:56 PM)
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Well, in the end Linux is the only thing that makes sense for what they want to achieve. I'd be really happy if this causes more games to get Linux versions, even though I'm going to continue using Windows 7 for the foreseeable future.

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