Frillen
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#101

Originally Posted by Mileena: View Post
Damn, Wii U already down to near PS3 levels. Shocking.
Wasn't PS3's 4th week a bit over 30k?
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Originally Posted by Heavy: View Post
Told you it would go under 100k, I was just a week off...forgot it was Christmas last week. 76k is lower than I expected, I was thinking just barely under 100k, like 90k.
Let me make a prediction, too: 3DS will go under 100k. Next week or any week later than next week :).
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#103

Originally Posted by farnham: View Post
sub vita?
At least one week (Soul Sacrifice release) but hopefully more.
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#104

Originally Posted by grimshawish: View Post
Don't think so. Mario and Luigi had a much wider audience and were very story based.
Paper Mario is just an entirely different type of game.
They are also targetting the intersection of Mario fans, handheld players and rpg fans, so I agree that there might be a big overlap in audience.
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#105

Why did everything drop except the PS3?
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#106

Originally Posted by MrCookiepants: View Post
Why did everything drop except the PS3?
Everything drops until the week of the new year typically.
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#107

Originally Posted by deathcobra: View Post
Fantasy Life is only 7 on the eShop where-as Animal Crossing is still 1 so I doubt it'll come close to matching ACs digital sales, even the ratio.
but when you see the price of Fantasy Life on the eshop (5980 yen when AC costs 4800 yen), it's normal to be only 7th..

I'm waiting for a little discount frrom level 5 and I'll buy it.

I love watching Tousouchu ;o) Original show but the game must be crappy
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#108

Originally Posted by MrCookiepants: View Post
Why did everything drop except the PS3?
Japan is embracing the PS3 as its main console.

:)
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#109

Originally Posted by Aostia: View Post
Do we know significate titles incoming for PS3 in the next months in Japan? honest question, I don't know.
By significant titles, do you mean system sellers? Because I don't really see one. Although I do see a few that will easily sell 100k+.
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Originally Posted by MrCookiepants: View Post
Why did everything drop except the PS3?
Last week was the week of Christmas and leading upto it. Sony products also don't seem to be as affected by post Christmas drops but they don't rise as insanely as Nintendo does leading up to Christmas.
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow: View Post
Quote:
Paper Mario series:

[N64] Paper Mario (Nintendo) {2000.08.11} - 118.322 / 425.609
[GCN] Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (Nintendo) {2004.07.22} - 137.750 / 398.218
[Wii] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) {2007.04.19} - 156.055 / 505.491
[3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} - 130.009 / 391.078
Might be worth including the Mario & Luigi games for comparison as well, owing to the fact that although they're distinct from Paper Mario, they might represent a slightly closer match for a 3DS Paper Mario than the console Paper Mario games do.
The last entry in Mario & Luigi series sold comfortably more than any Paper Mario title. But overall, we can say that both franchises have very similar sales.

[GBA] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Nintendo) {2003.11.21} - 63.839 / 438.781
[NDS] Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (Nintendo) {2005.12.29} - 133.229 / 417.391
[NDS] Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (Nintendo) {2009.02.11} - 220.055 / 745.701
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#112

Originally Posted by hongcha: View Post
Japan is embracing the PS3 as its main console.

:)
LOL
Aostia
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#113

Originally Posted by farnham: View Post
sub vita?
if Vita will be really able to spin it's destiny around with the new bunch of software incoming in Feb-March and maybe a price cut, could be. especially if Wii U will have no release in those two months.
I still think that they'll release at least Game & Wario and Fit U in Feb-March, with DQX and Pikmin 3 for April
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#114

Originally Posted by squall23: View Post
By significant titles, do you mean system sellers? Because I don't really see one. Although I do see a few that will easily sell 100k+.
One piece 2 ? No sure about the launch date.
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#115

Originally Posted by Frillen: View Post
Wasn't PS3's 4th week a bit over 40k?
Wasn't it like 10 jillion yen?
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#116

Originally Posted by Aostia: View Post
I still think that they'll release at least Game & Wario and Fit U in Feb-March, with DQX and Pikmin 3 for April
What about Wonderful 101?
We don't have yet a release date for it, haven't we?
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#117

Originally Posted by squall23: View Post
By significant titles, do you mean system sellers? Because I don't really see one. Although I do see a few that will easily sell 100k+.
Good question.
I don't know, I think that could be defined "significant" titles those games that, also not being proper system sellers (I don't know if there will be other real system sellers on the PS3 in Japan now on) could help the console in keeping good weekly sales.

Originally Posted by Gianni Merryman: View Post
What about Wonderful 101?
We don't have yet a release date for it, haven't we?
I don't know. Outside Japan it was a launch-window game, but maybe not in Japan. But btw I don't see it as a title that can help the hw sales.
Of course, also Game&Wario and FitU are full of doubts about their performances, but at least we can say that previous entries in those franchises (I'm comparing Game&Wario to the previous Wario Ware games) did at least numbers that could affect positevly the HW performances also if the new episodes will be way less significant.
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#118

Man, I'm eating crow on Inazuma Eleven. I expected this franchise to be in the grave, and instead we're seeing signs of a rebound. If I was a fan of that franchise I would tell Level-5 to fuck off with three separate releases within a few weeks though.
Fafalada
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#119

Originally Posted by Aostia:
I think that PS3 could be higher than Wii U next week
Well I saw PS3 and Vita on sale (18000 yen each) in Softmap from 1st, no idea how widespread that was though. Do retailers usually do global discounts on that week?
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#120

So. Many. 3DS. Titles.
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#121

2012 software share, courtesy of garaph


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Jackano
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#122

Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
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#123

Originally Posted by Jackano: View Post
Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
500k downloads according to Iwata Nikkei interview.
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#124

2012 HW share according to famitsu (no NDS data included)


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Originally Posted by Jackano: View Post
Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
Famitsu counts the digital download cards which is why there is nearly a 500k difference between mediacreate and famitsu. No tracker counts copies sold directly through the eshop though.
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#126

Originally Posted by Jackano: View Post
Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
I don't remember if is Famitsu including the dd cards sold at retailers, or MC ;(
Btw in any case we don't see the direct download from the eshop in those numbers.
what we know is that AC sold more or less 500k (am I right?) of DD copies, but including both cards and direct downloads. reading the differences between MC and Famitus we could know more or less the numbers of download cards sold at retailers.

Originally Posted by Takao: View Post
Man, I'm eating crow on Inazuma Eleven. I expected this franchise to be in the grave, and instead we're seeing signs of a rebound. If I was a fan of that franchise I would tell Level-5 to fuck off with three separate releases within a few weeks though.

yes, no sense at all in selling three games of the same franchise within such a limited time period.
and despite that the real new game is performing well: probably they somehow HAD to put out the third iteration of the Striker spinoff series, while the collection doesn't make sense at all in Japan (it would be smart to sell the 3rd episode both for DS and 3DS in PAL territories instead, exploiting the work done for this 3ds collection)
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#127

The Wii U is behaving typical for this particular week. Next week numbers are more important in accessing legs.

As I suspected, the placement of the calendar made Week 52 bigger than normal and Week 51 slightly smaller. Week 1 numbers will be interesting.
Elios83
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(01-07-2013, 03:08 PM)
#128

3DS is continuing to dominate the japanese market.
Wii U at this rate could fall behind PS3 in weekly sales during January (and there were people thinking that PS3 sales would nosedive because of WiiU). It's not doing really well, still far from a disaster but the sales pattern is not good.
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#129

Originally Posted by Chris1964: View Post
Give me a break
Originally Posted by D_prOdigy: View Post
you're bombing harder than a vita Wiiu lovechild
What do you mean? Last week was the big holiday week, all the numbers were up. It was a dumb prediction to think it would go under 100k in a week like that, which I hadn't thought of at the time.
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#130

Originally Posted by Heavy: View Post
What do you mean? Last week was the big holiday week, all the numbers were up. It was a dumb prediction to think it would go under 100k in a week like that, which I hadn't thought of at the time.
Ah, the very man that I wanted to see.

Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by Heavy: View Post
What do you mean? Last week was the big holiday week, all the numbers were up. It was a dumb prediction to think it would go under 100k in a week like that, which I hadn't thought of at the time.
I don't think you're winning any friends here with self-congratulatory statements over predictions you made that were wrong again and again and again.
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#132

Wii U doesn't seem to perform up to DragonSworne's predictions. How surprising.

I think it's interesting that PS3 went up (even if just slightly) without any releases. There wasn't a new color/bundle was there?
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#133

Now those are some sexily coloured pie charts. You done good Nick.

Originally Posted by Exterminieren: View Post
Ah, the very man that I wanted to see.

Enjoy.
I'm on the floor
lunchwithyuzo
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(01-07-2013, 03:21 PM)
#134

MH3U's back!

Launch aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525)
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 30,467 (199,549)
Ridge Racer 7: 6,909 (60,379)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 6,147 (58,526)
Resistance: Fall of Man: 5,662 (37,705)

Wii: 203,079 (786,039)
Wii Sports: 142,157 (456,731)
Wii Play: 126,161 (421,182)
Pokémon Battle Revolution: 51,982 (112,292)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339)
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)


Year aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525) 4 weeks
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 76,507 (466,716) 8 weeks
Formula 1 Championship Edition: 12,764 (12,764)
Ridge Racer 7: 12,694 (98,616)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 12,150 (96,714)

Wii: 203,079 (989,118) 5 weeks
Wii Sports: 96,438 (553,214)
Wii Play: 82,003 (503,185)
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves: 40,263 (196,766)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339) 4 weeks
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)
Heavy
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#135

Originally Posted by massoluk: View Post
I don't think you're winning any friends here with self-congratulatory statements over predictions you made that were wrong again and again and again.
Like I said, I didn't realize it was a huge holiday week. Honestly. If I did I wouldn't have made that bet. It was a really stupid bet, didn't think it through.


Originally Posted by Exterminieren: View Post
Ah, the very man that I wanted to see.

Enjoy.
Oh man...
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#136

Originally Posted by Celine: View Post
Wii U is doomed, its YTD can't even beat Vita one :-(
Originally Posted by michaelius: View Post
Can't wait to see Wii U sales in February/March ;)
the Nintendo cycle at it's finest...
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Originally Posted by Heavy: View Post
Like I said, I didn't realize it was a huge holiday week. Honestly. If I did I wouldn't have made that bet. It was a really stupid bet, didn't think it through.

Oh man...
Fair's fair. Stupid bet, but at least you're man enough to live with it. You can have it off February 7th. :)
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#138

Originally Posted by Nibel: View Post
What did you expect?

They probably have to switch into beast mode again like they did with the 3DS and it's their own fault for many reasons. Those sales are not good and should be way better considering we're talking about Nintendo here.
you're not implying a price drop are you?
lunchwithyuzo
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#139

Originally Posted by Elios83: View Post
3DS is continuing to dominate the japanese market.
Wii U at this rate could fall behind PS3 in weekly sales during January (and there were people thinking that PS3 sales would nosedive because of WiiU). It's not doing really well, still far from a disaster but the sales pattern is not good.
I think it's almost a certainty that Wii U will start tracking lower than PS3 weekly starting in Jan or Feb. It's going to be very much like 3DS/PSP in early/mid 2011, where PSP sold more weekly and multiplatform games performed significantly better on it.
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Originally Posted by lunchwithyuzo: View Post
I think it's almost a certainty that Wii U will start tracking lower than PS3 weekly starting in Jan or Feb. It's going to be very much like 3DS/PSP in early/mid 2011, where PSP sold more weekly and multiplatform games performed significantly better on it.
They just need to announce more games. Too early for a price drop for Japan
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#141

First four weeks of Wii U hardware compared to other consoles:







By almost every measure, it's doing about average, although of course timing of launches has to be taken into account, and we can only really judge when we get a few months into 2013 and see where it settles.
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id: View Post
Now those are some sexily coloured pie charts. You done good Nick.
thanks =P

seeing microsoft share really makes you wonder why they even bother
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#143

Originally Posted by gamergirly: View Post
They just need to announce more games. Too early for a price drop for Japan
how much more games do people really need? i don't understand everyones logic about it needing more titles. there are plenty of games that are worth playing especially for an, oh i dunno, a month and a half old console.
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Originally Posted by VAPitts: View Post
how much more games do people really need? i don't understand everyones logic about it needing more titles. there are plenty of games that are worth playing especially for an, oh i dunno, a month and a half old console.
http://search1.nintendo.co.jp/search...t=&view_order=
This is why people are saying more games.
Aostia
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#145

Originally Posted by lunchwithyuzo: View Post
MH3U's back!

Launch aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525)
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 30,467 (199,549)
Ridge Racer 7: 6,909 (60,379)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 6,147 (58,526)
Resistance: Fall of Man: 5,662 (37,705)

Wii: 203,079 (786,039)
Wii Sports: 142,157 (456,731)
Wii Play: 126,161 (421,182)
Pokémon Battle Revolution: 51,982 (112,292)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339)
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)


Year aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525) 4 weeks
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 76,507 (466,716) 8 weeks
Formula 1 Championship Edition: 12,764 (12,764)
Ridge Racer 7: 12,694 (98,616)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 12,150 (96,714)

Wii: 203,079 (989,118) 5 weeks
Wii Sports: 96,438 (553,214)
Wii Play: 82,003 (503,185)
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves: 40,263 (196,766)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339) 4 weeks
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)




Very useful. should also put those "Nintedooomed" claims into perspective.
That said, this console (unlike thw Wii) needs constant software to perform well, of course.
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#146

Originally Posted by deathcobra: View Post
http://search1.nintendo.co.jp/search...t=&view_order=
This is why people are saying more games.
that's just Japan. but i'm just saying, people will say this now and forever because they want an excuse not to buy it. everybody knows more games are gonna be announced soon.
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Originally Posted by VAPitts: View Post
that's just Japan.
It's a Japanese sales thread.
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#148

Considering how much is selling and the completely unknown future support for the system, I can't see how Wii U can manage to improve. Considering it's already selling at a loss, a price drop is completely out of option now.
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#149

Originally Posted by VAPitts: View Post
everybody knows more games are gonna be announced soon.
That's what "everybody" said about the 3DS and Vita. Only one of those systems actually got the announcements, and only one of those is performing healthily.
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Originally Posted by VAPitts: View Post
how much more games do people really need? i don't understand everyones logic about it needing more titles. there are plenty of games that are worth playing especially for an, oh i dunno, a month and a half old console.
I believe it just needs this one big title that isn't coming out until 2014 so fans can speculate about. While people like me and you feel mostly satisified about the near release schedule, there are some who don't feel like the current releases and schedule give them satisifaction. Its atkin to having unrealistic expectations and/or buying a console maybe they couldn't afford in the first place. You need this "reason" for the money you just forked over but didn't do research beforehand
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