No, no, nope.
Wario World? Kirby-ish?
You are probably comparing SMB games and SM64-like games when you say so but I simply don't regard them in the same series, at least SM64 is a SMB game as much as a Mario Party game is, in my eyes.
Im not sure. The drop in sales from the transition to 2D to 3D was because it caused motion sickness and was disorienting. However, rpgs never had this problem and I believe a lot of rpgs saw an increase of popularity due to the transition to 3D, although that may only be true for the west.
And Game & Wario, The Wonderful 101, Ninja Gaiden 3, Lego City Undercover, Sing Party, and Rayman Legends, in addition to Mario and Nintendo Land (10 total), but your point still stands.
Same although not as evident as SMB->Mario 64 (in Mario 64 the goal to clear the stages is totally different compared to SMB, Zelda retained the dungeon structure at least).
Speaking strictly about most common JRPG, what they gained on Saturn/PS1 compared to previous "2D only" consoles was a far bigger storage space then used to load content to increase the presentation production values more than "3D".
Yeah I shouldve clarified further in that the transition from 2D to 3D largely didn't effect the gameplay but the presentation.
Yes, however a lot of people have perceived that pokemon has changed or evolved by the transition to 3D at least that's the impression I've read so far. The crowd that usually goes on about Nintendo milking pokemon and never changing anything has also been silent. So far Nintendo has yet to reveal any gameplay changes but purely aesthetic ones.
Yeah, but a lot of people would die, you can't wish something like that.
That and Wario Ware in 2003 were really relevatory releases looking back. A lot of Nintendo moves for the next decade can really be traced back to those two games.
Yeah but PH isnt a 2D game. Its a 2.5D game or whatever category you put 3D land into.
Hence why I said "so far" and "from what theyve revealled"
We'll see. I expect gameplay changes and what not but it depends on the degree really. Every pokemon game makes adjustments and evolves the formula. I feel pokemon fans say every pokemon generation brings major changes and uninformed say it's a rehash. Personally speaking I thought G/S and R/S were the biggest generational jumps with d/p and b/w more refining, tweaking and adjusting the formula. A lot of B/W's changes were purely aesthetic such as older trainer, different camera angles, no old pokemon, more story oriented, etc. We'll wait and see if gen 6 brings more gameplay changes or relies more on aesthetic changes.
Yes, my op that brought this discussion was me speculating that 3D and DD might actually increase sales but that is more for the west than Japan.
Right. I mean, the worlds of Pokémon already largely went polygonal way back with Diamond/Pearl, and how much difference did that make besides the occasional camera angle change?SovanJedi said:
3DS: 1,407,744
WiiU: 638,339
PS3: 219,580
PSP: 152,929
PSV: 70,846
Wii: 53,183
X360: 7,416
PS2*: 2,285
NDS*: 971
*: No numbers listed for Week 52.Using the PS3 launch numbers isnt really a good bar for success though.
