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View Poll Results: Best starter?
Chespin
317 14.29%
Fennekin
472 21.28%
Froakie
471 21.24%
EatChildren
958 43.19%
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Vire
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(01-10-2013, 01:41 AM)
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injurai
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(01-10-2013, 01:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grakl

Fennekin is a boring fox. Nothing special :P

wait till he evolves you numbnut
baekshi
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(01-10-2013, 01:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by UltimateIke

:<

:lol
Grakl
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(01-10-2013, 01:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by injurai

wait till he evolves you numbnut

No. Chespin is already awesome, don't have to wait for him.
Tehalemi
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(01-10-2013, 01:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by qq more

Psssh, what's so special about Fennekin?

Originally Posted by Grakl

Fennekin is a boring fox. Nothing special :P

ryan13ts
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(01-10-2013, 01:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Deified Data

Nah - the types are perfectly balanced as it is. Dark and Steel were added in Gen II specifically to to correct balancing issues, not to offer more variety.

That may have made sense back then since the series was still very new, but after 5 generations, I believe it's about time to introduce new types for variety AND gameplay balancing.

While adding Dark and Steel did fix some of the balance issues with the original game (Namely the nearly invincible Psychic types of that Gen), it still left some pretty big issues with other types (namely Poison, Ice and Flying) that haven't been corrected or adjusted since Gen II, well over 12 years ago. By adding at least two new types, Game Freak could help balance the game further by giving older types with issues better effectiveness, while breathing new life into what has been very fun, but stagnant gameplay mechaincs.

I'm just saying'....
ffdgh
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(01-10-2013, 01:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vire

[IMG]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/008/c/6/c65f0bc1b87e96eeb1714130d703c58b-d5qvnhn.jpg[IMG]

The horror.....Do not want.
Berordn
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(01-10-2013, 01:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Trigger

Nothing. Nothing at all.

Finally, someone who gets it.

I knew you were more than a cute face.
Aggrotek
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(01-10-2013, 01:47 AM)
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Wonder which one ash gets 1st.
StreetsAhead
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(01-10-2013, 01:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aggrotek

Wonder which one ash gets 1st.

It'll be Chespin. This Gen's Piplup/Oshawott/Charmander.
zroid
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(01-10-2013, 01:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aggrotek

Wonder which one ash gets 1st.

:lol

When Black and White were released, I decided I'd watch the anime again; it had been so long since I stopped and I was interested. I made it 15 minutes through the first episode and gave up. :(
ffdgh
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(01-10-2013, 01:50 AM)
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Eh as if it matters. The fire/fighting get all the attention anyway for some reason tho I'd guess chespin hopefully.
Aggrotek
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(01-10-2013, 01:51 AM)
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What gyms do you think there will be this time around?

I think Bug is confirmed.
one_kill
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(01-10-2013, 01:51 AM)
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So Ash is probably not going to win another championship lol. Poor Ash! His journey will never end.
fernoca
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(01-10-2013, 01:51 AM)
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:)
fifasnipe2224
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(01-10-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Holy hell, the best price I can find Pokemon B/W online used is $23 after shipping. Anyone know were I can buy for a better price?
Berordn
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(01-10-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aggrotek

What gyms do you think there will be this time around?

I think Bug is confirmed.

Yeah, that's either a bug gym in the trailer, or an extremely elaborate forest.

I'd like to see a dark gym, finally.
CorvoSol
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(01-10-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

It'll be Chespin. This Gen's Piplup/Oshawott/Charmander.

One of these things is vastly superior to not like the others?
injurai
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(01-10-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grakl

No. Chespin is already awesome, don't have to wait for him.

All the best starters end up bad unfortunately...
qq more
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(01-10-2013, 01:52 AM)

Originally Posted by Aggrotek

What gyms do you think there will be this time around?

I think Bug is confirmed.

First one better not be Rock or I'll killllllllllllllll

Originally Posted by injurai

All the best starters end up bad unfortunately...

Dunno. Blastoise was pretty badass. But... poor Totodile and his final evo :(
Grakl
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(01-10-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by injurai

All the best starters end up bad unfortunately...

Not true. Totodile ended up amazing.
lordfroakie
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(01-10-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Hmm I wonder if we can finally have a one type team :D
Last edited by lordfroakie; 01-10-2013 at 01:56 AM.
injurai
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(01-10-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Poor totodile indeed...
Aggrotek
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(01-10-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Berordn

Yeah, that's either a bug gym in the trailer, or an extremely elaborate forest.

I'd like to see a dark gym, finally.

It'd be cool if it was early on so it gives a good reason to use a bug pokemon.
EvilMario
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(01-10-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id

:lol

When Black and White were released, I decided I'd watch the anime again; it had been so long since I stopped and I was interested. I made it 15 minutes through the first episode and gave up. :(

I did the same thing. I made it about ten episodes in and had to stop. They're basically using the same 'lessons' and concepts from previous season and it's just hilarious how terrible Ash still is.
StreetsAhead
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(01-10-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by CorvoSol

One of these things is vastly superior to not like the others?

Well, I mean just in terms of marketing/focus, clearly Charmander is the superior anime character.
zroid
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(01-10-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Totodile's entire line is terrible.

Come at me, lamers
CorvoSol
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(01-10-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by injurai

both bipedal... but they are pretty different.

It's a similar argument to Bulbasaur and Turtwig being similar and its just plain stupid.

Except neither of those are the argument I'm making. At all. Do you really think I would say two Pokemon were similar just because they were bipedal? I mean, come on. That would make Mewtwo and Regigas similar.
Last edited by CorvoSol; 01-10-2013 at 01:58 AM.
Boss Doggie
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(01-10-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Karsticles

Question from someone who hasn't played since the originals:
Can you fight others online with the DS? Like, can you search out player matches? Are there rankings? How do you decide on rules, if any? I noticed that there are Pokemon "Tiers", and people compete within these tiers (UU, OU, NU, etc.). Or if/when you play online, is everyone running around using the Ubers?

Yeah you can search and fight others online in GTS. And you can pick rules (pick Flat Battle to give you level 50, no same held items, no legendaries).

The tiers and rules within the tier are generally for matches where both parties have agreed to participate - it's not something Nintendo made :P
Aggrotek
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(01-10-2013, 01:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Totodile's entire line is terrible.

Come at me, lamers

injurai
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(01-10-2013, 01:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by CorvoSol

Except neither of those are the argument I'm making. At all.

you're a raven, hush
StreetsAhead
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(01-10-2013, 01:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Totodile's entire line is terrible.

Come at me, lamers

Gen 2 has the blandest starters - especially the final evos. Pretty sure it's the reason GF avoids the 'obvious' evolution method and now goes for the 'surprise!'. I remember them stating post-BW release that they wanted players to not know exactly where the final evolutions where headed just by looking at them (which got ruined when they were leaked anyway and then they announced the 2nd stages in corocoro prior to release anyway).
Boss Doggie
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(01-10-2013, 01:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by ryan13ts

That may have made sense back then since the series was still very new, but after 5 generations, I believe it's about time to introduce new types for variety AND gameplay balancing.

While adding Dark and Steel did fix some of the balance issues with the original game (Namely the nearly invincible Psychic types of that Gen), it still left some pretty big issues with other types (namely Poison, Ice and Flying) that haven't been corrected or adjusted since Gen II, well over 12 years ago. By adding at least two new types, Game Freak could help balance the game further by giving older types with issues better effectiveness, while breathing new life into what has been very fun, but stagnant gameplay mechaincs.

I'm just saying'....

Poison yeah, but Ice and Flying (and Bug) generally are those types that deal SE to types who generally deal big damage with huge coverage. Ice is Dragon/Ground counter and Flying is generally for dealing with Fighting. Bug is for Psychics/Dark while resisting Ground. Poison needs a buff yeah.

And lol Grass. Oh Grass... you're a poor defensive type... and nothing much else.
kittens
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(01-10-2013, 01:58 AM)
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I think Fennekin is cute except for its GIANT HEAD.

Even the ear hair.

Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Totodile's entire line is terrible.

co-signed
Rubius
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(01-10-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by ffdgh

Eh as if it matters. The fire/fighting get all the attention anyway for some reason tho I'd guess chespin hopefully.

My bets are
Fire/Ground (Fennec Fox are known to dig holes in the ground),
Water/Ice (The foam getting a little crystalized) and
Grass/Steel (Metal Spike that grow from his back)
ryan13ts
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(01-10-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Berordn

Yeah, that's either a bug gym in the trailer, or an extremely elaborate forest.

I'd like to see a dark gym, finally.

Seriously. I can't understand that after all these Generations, we haven't gotten a Dark gym yet. I can only take so many Water type gyms X(
injurai
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(01-10-2013, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

Gen 2 has the blandest starters - especially the final evos. Pretty sure it's the reason GF avoids the 'obvious' evolution method and now goes for the 'surprise!'. I remember them stating post-BW release that they wanted players to not know exactly where the final evolutions where headed just by looking at them (which got ruined when they were leaked anyway and then they announced the 2nd stages in corocoro prior to release anyway).

They change a bit too much for my tastes these days. I wish they had a more unified and stronger designs accoss the board, because despite my liking of different forms individually, only gen I and II starters at strong evolution progressions.

Exception would be Turtwig I suppose.
Thunder Monkey
(01-10-2013, 01:59 AM)
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I liked Totodile.

*pouts*

It seemed like a cuddly something that'd eat you face.
Fracas
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(01-10-2013, 02:00 AM)
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I think Torterra may be my favorite Grass starter evo.

I mean good lord, it looks like Bowser with a damn tree growing out of it.
Drago
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(01-10-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Totodile's entire line is terrible.

Come at me, lamers

You're dead to me
GiantEnemyGoomba
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(01-10-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey

I liked Totodile.

*pouts*

It seemed like a cuddly something that'd eat you face.

Agreed. I've always liked how viciously adorable he was. Cyndaquil was my favorite though. <3
Tehalemi
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(01-10-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by fernoca

:)

-Looks at avatar-

must...resist...daaawwww'ing
Grakl
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(01-10-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Totodile haters? Wow.
Wilsongt
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(01-10-2013, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Totodile's entire line is terrible.

Come at me, lamers

Totodile was awesome. All of Gen 2's starters were awesome. Much better than Gen 3.
joetachi
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(01-10-2013, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by injurai

They change a bit too much for my tastes these days. I wish they had a more unified and stronger designs accoss the board, because despite my liking of different forms individually, only gen I and II starters at strong evolution progressions.

Exception would be Turtwig I suppose.

even gen one starters change more than get 2
Berordn
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(01-10-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Boss Doggie

Yeah you can search and fight others online in GTS. And you can pick rules (pick Flat Battle to give you level 50, no same held items, no legendaries).

Specifically, rules for playing on Global Battle Union (the ranked matchup mode):

Banned Pokémon: Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys (all formes), Chatot (due to chatter), Dialga, Palkia, Giratina (both formes), Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin (both formes), Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem (all formes), Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect
Banned formes: Theurian Forme Thunderus, Theurian Forme Tornadus, Theurian Forme Landurus
Banned moves: Sky Drop, Dark Void
Species Clause
Item Clause

Naturally, any Pokemon using moves or abilities it is incapable of learning normally is automatically barred from entry.
kittens
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(01-10-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by monsterfracas

I think Torterra may be my favorite Grass starter evo.

I mean good lord, it looks like Bowser with a damn tree growing out of it.

YESSSSSS finally you don't have bad taste
Thunder Monkey
(01-10-2013, 02:04 AM)
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Besides Infernape is the worst ever.

No one else is offended that they have a flaming primate? My letters to Pita are probably the only reason they took an interest actually.

I... didn't realize at the time that the monkey in the game wasn't real... yeah sorry about that one.
injurai
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(01-10-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by joetachi

even gen one starters change more than get 2

uhhhh...





StreetsAhead
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(01-10-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by monsterfracas

I think Torterra may be my favorite Grass starter evo.

I mean good lord, it looks like Bowser with a damn tree growing out of it.

Yes. Yes, it is.

Torterra > Venusaur > Serperior = Sceptile > Meganium

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