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Edmond Dantès
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(01-23-2013, 02:06 AM)
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Humans are a plague on the Earth that need to be controlled by limiting population growth, according to Sir David Attenborough.

The television presenter said that humans are threatening their own existence and that of other species by using up the world’s resources.

He said the only way to save the planet from famine and species extinction is to limit human population growth.

“We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now,” he told the Radio Times.

Sir David, who is a patron of the Optimum Population Trust, has spoken out before about the “frightening explosion in human numbers” and the need for investment in sex education and other voluntary means of limiting population in developing countries.

“We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case. Until humanity manages to sort itself out and get a coordinated view about the planet it’s going to get worse and worse.”

Sir David, whose landmark series are repeated from Monday on BBC2, starting with Life on Earth, has also spoken out about the change in wildlife documentaries during his lifetime.

The 86-year-old said commentary from presenters like himself are becoming less necessary as camera work is able to tell a story.

“I’m not sure there’s any need for a new Attenborough,” he said. “The more you go on, the less you need people standing between you and the animal and the camera waving their arms about.

“It’s much cheaper to get someone in front of a camera describing animal behaviour than actually showing you [the behaviour]. That takes a much longer time. But the kind of carefully tailored programmes in which you really work at the commentary, you really match pictures to words, is a bit out of fashion now … regarded as old hat.”

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commedieu
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(01-23-2013, 02:07 AM)
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Took him a long time to find eastern philosophy. I Think everyone agrees, but... Who will do anything about it?

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Randolph Freelander
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(01-23-2013, 02:07 AM)
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Yes, we are.
Inversive
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(01-23-2013, 02:08 AM)
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Humans are the single worst thing that has happened to our planet. We have raped the Earth, fact.
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ezekial45
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(01-23-2013, 02:08 AM)
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yup
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(01-23-2013, 02:08 AM)
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Agent Smith was right.
Stet
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(01-23-2013, 02:08 AM)
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I'll wait until it's narrated by Oprah or Alec Baldwin to believe it.
bitoriginal
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(01-23-2013, 02:09 AM)
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I agree with him.
diamount
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(01-23-2013, 02:09 AM)
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I think he's getting a bit senile.
FutureZombie
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(01-23-2013, 02:09 AM)
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He should probably kill himself to help stop this.
anaron
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(01-23-2013, 02:09 AM)
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news at 11
Goodacre0081
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(01-23-2013, 02:10 AM)
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is this new? I thought about this when I was 13/14 years old.
Betta Lines
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(01-23-2013, 02:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by diamount

I think he's getting a bit senile.

I think you're wrong.
Wilsongt
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(01-23-2013, 02:10 AM)
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Sounds about right to me.
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(01-23-2013, 02:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by diamount

I think he's getting a bit senile.

Because of what - - ?
Admiral Bone to Pick
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(01-23-2013, 02:11 AM)
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We could also save valuable resources by not letting people live such ridiculously long lifespans (e.g. 86) and take up valuable resources well past their working age. It's not an inhuman thing to say.
Trent Strong
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(01-23-2013, 02:11 AM)
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He's right.
GK86
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(01-23-2013, 02:11 AM)
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I doubt anyone would disagree with that statement.
shadyspace
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(01-23-2013, 02:11 AM)
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aren't birth rates steadily falling in like every developed nation
Quick
(01-23-2013, 02:11 AM)
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No shit, Sir Attenborough.
bonercop
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(01-23-2013, 02:12 AM)
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We are in the process of demolishing the earth, yeah, but limiting population growth is a minor concern compared to the other shit that needs to change, namely our CO2 output.
Majine
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(01-23-2013, 02:12 AM)
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"The planet is fine. The people are fucked."
- George Carlin
Curtisaur
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(01-23-2013, 02:13 AM)
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Something exists, something else exists to ruin it - either for advancement of self or maybe even no veritable reason at all. Woopty fucking doo. Such is the cycle of everything.
whitehawk
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(01-23-2013, 02:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by shadyspace

aren't birth rates steadily falling in like every developed nation

Damn stealth edit.

Do what you edited out, A birth limit might happen in our lifetimes (outside of china). But not 1 kid, maybe 3.
Tesseract
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(01-23-2013, 02:13 AM)
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oh shut up old ya senile old crotch. we're progressing at a decent click and well on our way to mastering the universe. fusion is almost here bitches.
Randolph Freelander
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(01-23-2013, 02:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by shadyspace

aren't birth rates steadily falling in like every developed nation

Overpopulation or not, humans suck and will destroy the habitability of this planet, and are actively working towards it everyday. If we don't do it with war, we will do it with trash and carbon.
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(01-23-2013, 02:14 AM)
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I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

It's sad that he's right.
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(01-23-2013, 02:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Serious Business

We could also save valuable resources by not letting people live such ridiculously long lifespans (e.g. 86) and take up valuable resources well past their working age. It's not an inhuman thing to say.

Who are you saving those resources for then?

"Not letting people live such long lifespans" actually is an inhuman thing to say. Limiting population growth is one thing, suggesting earlier-than-necessary death is something completely different.
A.E Suggs
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(01-23-2013, 02:15 AM)
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So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.
Poimandres
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(01-23-2013, 02:15 AM)
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The Earth is fucked and it's all our fault!

Depressing, but true.
Randolph Freelander
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(01-23-2013, 02:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by A.E Suggs

So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.

The earth does not need us. Other species can, in millions of years, evolve to the point of being intelligent and taking dominion over the renewed earth.

Not that I suggest we off ourselves.

We will, though.
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(01-23-2013, 02:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tesseract

oh shut up old ya senile old crotch. we're progressing at a decent click and well on our way to mastering the universe. fusion is almost here bitches.

Commercially available nuclear fusion as an energy souce is what? 40 years away at this point?

It will be far too late. We need to get rid of coal, now. Nuclear fission is our best bet.


"Not letting people live such long lifespans" actually is an inhuman thing to say. Limiting population growth is one thing, suggesting earlier-than-necessary death is something completely different.

Also, if you're gonna kill of folks to save resources, you might as well go big, and hit those that consume the most, rather than crotchety old farts who eat through straws.
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jett
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(01-23-2013, 02:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by A.E Suggs

So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.

What? Life is preserved. Humanity isn't needed.
legacyzero
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(01-23-2013, 02:17 AM)
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he's right.
diamount
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(01-23-2013, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by commedieu

Because of what - - ?

The whole notion of overpopulation is a myth. The planet has no problem sustaining another 6 billion, but it goes down to humans not looking after each other.
shadyspace
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(01-23-2013, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett





It's sad that he's right.

you know this is completely wrong right
DrSlek
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(01-23-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by A.E Suggs

So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.

Ever seen Logan's Run?
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(01-23-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Been saying this for years. If we're not going to get a new Metroid then I say bring on the asteroid.
Eteric Rice
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(01-23-2013, 02:18 AM)
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It's true. But slowly humanity is becoming more aware of how important keeping the Earth in good condition truly is. Hopefully when we all realize it, we can reverse the damage somewhat with Science and innovation.
Inversive
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(01-23-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by A.E Suggs

So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.

It has no humans destroying it? It's funny, a planet capable of sustaining life, a jewel of the universe and that very life tears it apart piece by piece. It sickens me to be human sometimes.
ConfusingJazz
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(01-23-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

What? Life is preserved. Humanity isn't needed.

Then an asteroid hits the earth, exposes the mantle, and eliminates all life that way.

Or a gamma ray burst occurs within a few light years, and wipes out everything in a blink.

Or a million other things.

99% of life on earth went extinct before we existed.
NullPointer
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(01-23-2013, 02:19 AM)
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We need to get off the planet in order to save the planet. Bonus, we'll learn a thing or two about sustainability.
Randolph Freelander
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(01-23-2013, 02:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by ConfusingJazz

Then an asteroid hits the earth, exposes the mantle, and eliminates all life that way.

Let them come.
Trent Strong
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(01-23-2013, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by A.E Suggs

So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.

He doesn't want to kill all humans. He just wants to stop overpopulation, pollution, destruction of tons of species and habitats, etc.
Yen
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(01-23-2013, 02:20 AM)
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What would he know about planet earth?
jett
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(01-23-2013, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by shadyspace

you know this is completely wrong right

Well I definitely agree with humanity being a cancer to the planet.
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(01-23-2013, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by A.E Suggs

So what does he suggest we do, eliminate ourselves so that the animals are left to rule? Sure the earth may be saved, but what comes from it being saved if there's no humans.

Our biggest fault is that we think so highly of ourselves. The world doesn't need us.
crazy monkey
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(01-23-2013, 02:21 AM)
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smart eco management and proper city and country design is answer.
ConfusingJazz
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(01-23-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by evilromero

Our biggest fault is that we think so highly of ourselves. The world doesn't need us.

Then what, pray tell, does the world need?

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