Spanish Wrath
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Did Monolith Soft run over Square-Enix with 'X'? #1

For what we have seen in the last Nintendo Direct, X looks freaking awesome.

In just two or three years, Monolith has achieved to get the vibe of what many of us expected from FF Versus XIII.

The announcemente of Versus XIII back in 2006 was one of the most exciting news in all my gaming life.

A real time action RPG following the line of Final Fantasy games.

Now we are in 2013 and all we know of Versus XIII has diluted through time with a couple of videos and little scoops, while Monolith has brought a fresh real time action RPG, with Mecha fighting and giant monsters to slaughter. In HD.

Okay, it's been more than seven years sin the HD generation came to our homes, but seriously. Is there any other japanese developer that has made anything as impressing (in terms of depth of field and visuals) as 'X'?

Discuss.
GameCenterXDS
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(01-23-2013, 02:23 PM)
#2

You are right, it does have a lot of the feeling I got from watching the Versus XIII trailer. This is great, I always thought what that game was trying to do looked awesome and for Nintendo and Monolith to expand their concepts to that level is just great.
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I just want more grand scale epic RPG's. X looks amazing and I really hope Square respond
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Really? :lol

X looks like XIV btw. And we've seen nothing of the new Versus, so I dont think its correct to judge for now.
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I was not a fan of the guns in the X trailer.
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#6

The last question of your post and the question in the thread title are pretty much the opposite question, so any lazy-ass replies that are just "yup" or "nope" will be impossible to interpret. :-/

That said, this utterly blows Lightning Returns away in its look and scope, and it blows Versus XIII away by virtue of the fact that it actually exists.
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#7

*run

But yes, the game looks incredible and made me want to pick up Xenoblade myself.
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#8

Monolith: HD towns are a piece of cake!
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#9

IMO Square-Enix still has them beat just on handheld content alone, I mean Bravely Default and DQ7.

Not that it matters FOR US BAKA GAIJINS :(
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#10

Not running over, flying over.

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#11

I suspect that Versus XIII (+Last Guardian) has been bumped up to the next gen system(s), so you might have to eat your words @ E3.
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(01-23-2013, 02:26 PM)
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In my opinion? Yes. This game has a better chance of being good than Lightning returns.
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It really makes it look like square was half assing this gen Ill tell you that.

Originally Posted by rouken: View Post
Monolith: HD towns are a piece of cake!
:/. see
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#14

They ran over Square-Enix with Xenoblade.

This is just them backing over the corpse.
ponpo
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Originally Posted by Spanish Wrath: View Post
The announcemente of Versus XIII back in 2006 was one of the most exciting news in all my gaming life.
lol. Then yes I guess another, newer trailer would be quite exciting for you.

Also until someone makes an HD town better than Academia, Sqaure still da god.
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From the gameplay videos we've seen, Versus XIII looks superior.
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Monolith is just a better developer.
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Originally Posted by Westlo: View Post
I suspect that Versus XIII (+Last Guardian) has been bumped up to the next gen system(s), so you might have to eat your words @ E3.
I would be really glad to have to eat my words regarding Versus XIII.

Nothing would make me happier than.
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Originally Posted by LuuKyK: View Post
Really? :lol

X looks like XIV btw. And we've seen nothing of the new Versus, so I dont think its correct to judge for now.
Ha-ha! but of course we haven't seen anything, companies tend to not show their vaporware software.

And yeah, I would gladly eat crow on that one.
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Square has lost it. That's what the OP is trying to say.
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SE ran over themselves.
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Well, Versus XIII was announced so long ago bu--

Originally Posted by JDSN: View Post
Not running over, flying over.

--t I just forgot what I was saying this is awesome.

Originally Posted by Westlo: View Post
I suspect that Versus XIII (+Last Guardian) has been bumped up to the next gen system(s), so you might have to eat your words @ E3.
Sweet, another generation of waiting!
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Versus is still vaporware to me.
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Originally Posted by LuuKyK: View Post
Really? :lol

X looks like XIV btw. And we've seen nothing of the new Versus, so I dont think its correct to judge for now.
we've seen gameplay of Versus.

Anyway monoloth just has better priorities in games than square does.
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Originally Posted by Westlo: View Post
I suspect that Versus XIII (+Last Guardian) has been bumped up to the next gen system(s), so you might have to eat your words @ E3.
yeah Versus XIII is going to turn out well(assuming it doesn't become the next Duke Nukem).
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Originally Posted by Sheroking: View Post
They ran over Square-Enix with Xenoblade.

This is just them backing over the corpse.
For reals. Best JRPG last gen wasn't a FF game, but Xenoblade. A Wii game.
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Originally Posted by Shahed: View Post
I just want more grand scale epic RPG's. X looks amazing and I really hope Square respond
"I'd like to see them tell a good story with that kind of freedom."
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It doesn't take much to run over SE these days.
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Originally Posted by Chacranajxy: View Post
Monolith is just a better developer.
This is what I was going to say. They are going to be like Retro, that exclusive Nintendo studio that can do whatever they want :P
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Originally Posted by Sheroking: View Post
They ran over Square-Enix with Xenoblade.

This is just them backing over the corpse.
:lol
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Originally Posted by ponpo: View Post
Also until someone makes an HD town better than Academia, Sqaure still da god.
Uh... that's been done. A lot.
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Originally Posted by LuuKyK: View Post
Really? :lol

X looks like XIV btw. And we've seen nothing of the new Versus, so I dont think its correct to judge for now.
Not it dosn't. And I played the alpha. X looks like it have a much bigger scale and seamless world. Of course XIV is a full fledged MMO with 100 characters on the screen at the same time...so is not really comparable.

My answer is yes. Looking at XIII-2 and then seeing X is like a shock revelation. SE is no longer the epitome of JRPG visuals.... X looks much better than any SE current gen game. Speak by itself how a mid range japanese developer managed to create a much better and espectacular engine...
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#33

Yeah they have developed this very quickly and it looks as epic as you can hope for. Meanwhile a great mass of SE's resources go to Lighting's new outfits...
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Originally Posted by AGITΩ: View Post
"I'd like to see them tell a good story with that kind of freedom."
I would rather Square enix not tell me a story, if FFXIII was any indication.
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#35

Didn't we have Dragon's Dogma, like, last year?

Don't get me wrong - "X" looks pretty impressive, but it's not like it's the first Japanese-developed HD RPG to show off open-worldish features that Versus promised so long ago. Plus, we don't even know what "X's" world layout will be. We're assuming it will be like Xenoblade's, and I think that's a reasonably safe bet, but we don't know that for sure.
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#36

Square ran themselves over.
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VersusXIII has to make a similar comeback to even be able to make any kind of splash. It won't.
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Square has been running themselves over. Monolith is just desecrating the corpse.
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Originally Posted by Sheroking: View Post
They ran over Square-Enix with Xenoblade.

This is just them backing over the corpse.
Omg, lol. It's funny cuz it's true.
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If this game is enough to please gamers graphically, I don't understand why people are worrying about PS4 and Xbox 3 specs.

And everyone runs over SE nowadays.
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I don't think you understand. Lightning has Gundam armor now. AND A CUTE GOTH GIRL.
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Originally Posted by GulAtiCa: View Post
Square ran themselves over.
while shooting themselves in the foot.
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Originally Posted by decoyplatypus: View Post
Didn't we have Dragon's Dogma, like, last year?

Don't get me wrong - "X" looks pretty impressive, but it's not like it's the first Japanese-developed HD RPG to show off open-worldish features that Versus promised so long ago. Plus, we don't even know what "X's" world layout will be. We're assuming it will be like Xenoblade's, and I think that's a reasonably safe bet, but we don't know that for sure.
I was asking in my OP if there were any other developements similiar to X.

Had forgot about Dragon's Dogma's 'wideness'.
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Square shot themselves in the foot anyway.

edit: GODDAMNIT
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Originally Posted by Forkball: View Post
I don't think you understand. Lightning has Gundam armor now. AND A CUTE GOTH GIRL.
X has a Gundam. :P
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Originally Posted by LuuKyK: View Post
Really? :lol

X looks like XIV btw. And we've seen nothing of the new Versus, so I dont think its correct to judge for now.


Exactly!
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Originally Posted by badcrumble: View Post
Uh... that's been done. A lot.
Uhhhh.. . . .. ......... .

Such as?
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#48

This is just more proof that the old guard of Japanese RPGs is dead/dying (Square Enix) and it will be other/smaller developers that take their place and move the genre forward.(FROM, Monolith, Level 5)
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Originally Posted by Rad-: View Post
If this game is enough to please gamers graphically, I don't understand why people are worrying about PS4 and Xbox 3 specs.
because people love a dick measuring contest.

and yeah. I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed by the PS4/720. seems likely they'll be quiet, low power(relatively) machines and they're going to put a lot of emphasis on getting you to buy movies and TV shows.
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Originally Posted by Sheroking: View Post
They ran over Square-Enix with Xenoblade.

This is just them backing over the corpse.
DAMN! Brutal.