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Zuhzuhzombie!!
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(01-23-2013, 06:53 PM)
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I'll commit to buying a WiiU if this comes Stateside.
Empty
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(01-23-2013, 07:10 PM)
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i love him so much

bring it over and let me explore every nook and cranny of the mother 2 world iwata pls
superpickleman
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(01-23-2013, 07:16 PM)
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I'm fully expecting a western take over of the Mother 2 Miiverse community when it appears.

Maybe that'll get their attention.
Codeblue
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(01-23-2013, 07:17 PM)
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Mother means a lot to me too.


Sigh.
Pietepiet
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(01-23-2013, 07:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by superpickleman

I'm fully expecting a western take over of the Mother 2 Miiverse community when it appears.

Maybe that'll get their attention.

Can you even get on Japanese Miiverses with a Western console?
Tiktaalik
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(01-23-2013, 07:22 PM)
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Nintendo should just bloody release the game. If they get sued they should just negotiate a licensing agreement. Nintendo can afford it.
Codeblue
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(01-23-2013, 07:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pietepiet

Can you even get on Japanese Miiverses with a Western console?

I know you can set the region and look at it. Not sure about posting.

I don't think Starmen.net are the type of people that would restrict this sort of thing to a single Miiverse community anyway.
backlot
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(01-23-2013, 07:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Codeblue

I know you can set the region and look at it. Not sure about posting.

I don't think Starmen.net are the type of people that would restrict this sort of thing to a single Miiverse community anyway.

But we know for sure that people from Nintendo are going to be paying attention to this community. I really hope non-Japanese Wii U's can post on it. If not there's always every community for every VC game NOA ever gives us.
Smithy C
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(01-23-2013, 08:04 PM)
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If this comes out on the Europe VC, I will buy a Wii U. Heck, if they just say it's coming out over here, I'll even buy a Wii U before the price gets cut.
Tookay
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(01-23-2013, 08:07 PM)

Originally Posted by richiek

The main reason Earthbound/Mother 2 wasn't released on the VC was because of copyright issues due to audio samples, right? So if it's being released in Japan, one would assume that this problem has been resolved and that a North American release is imminent?

Not at all.

If it's just released in Japan, though, those infringement issues will probably go more unnoticed than if it's released in America.
entrement
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(01-23-2013, 08:11 PM)
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Don't worry, guys, eBay to the rescue:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Earthbound-S...item4d08e1f652
terrisus
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(01-23-2013, 08:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by entrement

Don't worry, guys, eBay to the rescue:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Earthbound-S...item4d08e1f652

Well, any Virtual Console version wouldn't come with the box, guide or stickers, so not really an even comparison.

Looking at completed listings, a whole bunch have gone in the $100-140 range (and a couple of lower-priced ones that were of course snapped up as soon as someone listed them), and there's a Buy-it-Now available at $210 right now if one really doesn't want to wait.

Sure, still much more expensive than a virtual console release, but, not nearly as extreme as the $400 and counting in the above auction if one is just interested in playing the game.
Danielsan
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(01-23-2013, 09:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by terrisus

Well, any Virtual Console version wouldn't come with the box, guide or stickers, so not really an even comparison.

Looking at completed listings, a whole bunch have gone in the $100-140 range (and a couple of lower-priced ones that were of course snapped up as soon as someone listed them), and there's a Buy-it-Now available at $210 right now if one really doesn't want to wait.

Sure, still much more expensive than a virtual console release, but, not nearly as extreme as the $400 and counting in the above auction if one is just interested in playing the game.

Add ridiculous shipping costs to Europe. Not knowing if the battery is in working order, or if it is going to die soon and the fact that you can't even be sure that it's a legitimate copy or simply a rom dump on a SNES cartridge. Trying to get a legitimate copy of this game is just a giant pain in the ass as well as a huge hit on your bank account. Maybe you are fine spending upwards of €150 for a beat up cartridge only version of an 18 year old game, but as much as I'd love to play it, I sure as hell am not going to spend that kind of money on it.
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Drago
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(01-23-2013, 10:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pietepiet

Can you even get on Japanese Miiverses with a Western console?

Yes, you can. You can even post messages there too (if I remember correctly)

My only hope is that this releases in NA in the Spring alongside the official VC, so Nintendo won't have to sell it for 30. :/
Secret Fawful
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(01-23-2013, 10:26 PM)
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Damn, what a disappointment.
GameCenterXDS
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(01-23-2013, 10:27 PM)

Originally Posted by MoogPaul

Pretty safe to say NA wont be seeing this I'd say.

Game takes place in the USA, only Japan can play it! haha ^_^

It BEST be coming here NoA!
POWERSPHERE
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(01-23-2013, 10:32 PM)
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We need to make a kick starter for 8-4 to translate the game and to just give it to Nintendo to release. No excuses you turds.
Cheesemeister
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(01-24-2013, 12:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by POWERSPHERE

We need to make a kick starter for 8-4 to translate the game and to just give it to Nintendo to release. No excuses you turds.

There's already an English version. It's called Earthbound.
LOCK
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(01-24-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Makes me hate NOA.
Dragonzord
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(01-24-2013, 01:55 AM)
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They'll probably just package this with Mother 3 so they can sell it in the US as a 40 dollar cart.
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PixyJunket
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(01-24-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonzord

They'll probably just package this with Mother 3 so they can sell it in the US as a 40 dollar cart.

That would be COMPLETELY worth it and I don't think anyone else would argue that.
Raxus
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(01-24-2013, 01:59 AM)
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Honest question.

Why did Nintendo stop bringing the Mother series over?

I only ask because even simple releases like the Virtual Console version of Earthbound were actually edited out of games like Super Smash Bros.

Did someone at NoA's kid die from Mother 2 or something?
terrisus
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(01-24-2013, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danielsan

Add ridiculous shipping costs to Europe. Not knowing if the battery is in working order, or if it is going to die soon and the fact that you can't even be sure that it's a legitimate copy or simply a rom dump on a SNES cartridge. Trying to get a legitimate copy of this game is just a giant pain in the ass as well as a huge hit on your bank account. Maybe you are fine spending upwards of €150 for a beat up cartridge only version of an 18 year old game, but as much as I'd love to play it, I sure as hell am not going to spend that kind of money on it.

Batteries are pretty quick and easy to replace, even without any prior soldering knowledge (and can just be replaced with a battery in a holder to make any future replacements even easier). As far as getting a legitimate copy, paying attention to details and seller feedback and such usually can take care of that issue (at least, I've never gotten stuck with a fake game yet).

While I certainly recognize that many people aren't willing to spend that kind of money on an older game (although I would counter-argue that Earthbound is such a spectacular game that it would be easy enough to pick 3 new games that one was considering buying, passing on them, and getting Earthbound instead, and it would be a better choice), I guess the only point I was trying to make was that, if one is just looking to play the game, that the extra-inflated prices that come with auctions that include the guide, box, or both the guide and box weren't particularly relevant, since with a virtual console release, one is getting neither of those, and also no physical game at all.
Drago
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(01-24-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Raxus

Honest question.

Why did Nintendo stop bringing the Mother series over?

I only ask because even simple releases like the Virtual Console version of Earthbound were actually edited out of games like Super Smash Bros.

Did someone at NoA's kid die from Mother 2 or something?

Earthbound Zero (Mother) came too late in the NES lifecycle and would have been a definite bomb. Localized but went unreleased.
Earthbound (Mother 2) was a bomb and it had a big (awful) marketing campaign, and every copy came with a strategy guide which was probably quite the money sink.
I don't know why Mother 1+2 GBA never got localized, probably due to legal issues.
Mother 3 came out in 2006, after the GBA was basically dead. An english release would have came out even later than that, and it would have been a HUGE bomb and money sink.
Legal issues prevented VC releases worldwide.

It's pretty easy to see why NoA doesn't seem to care much for the series. I sure wish they did though. :(
Amir0x
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(01-24-2013, 02:20 AM)
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this was the thing they were hinting at? Something that'll never come to the USA :/

Ah well, not like it'd matter since Miiverse integration is the big difference here, and I don't give a shit about the circle jerkin' Miiverse.
Teknoman
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(01-24-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket

That would be COMPLETELY worth it and I don't think anyone else would argue that.

I'd buy it.



...I know it's never coming back to North America. One of these days i'm just going to either have to suck it up and find the cheapest copy on Amazon...or search for mislisted ebay auctions lol.

Until then, i'll keep searching whenever i'm out, and hope I run into cheap copy at a pawn/thrift/flea/old book store like that one guy.

Originally Posted by Danielsan

Add ridiculous shipping costs to Europe. Not knowing if the battery is in working order, or if it is going to die soon and the fact that you can't even be sure that it's a legitimate copy or simply a rom dump on a SNES cartridge. Trying to get a legitimate copy of this game is just a giant pain in the ass as well as a huge hit on your bank account. Maybe you are fine spending upwards of €150 for a beat up cartridge only version of an 18 year old game, but as much as I'd love to play it, I sure as hell am not going to spend that kind of money on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EarthBound-S...item2ec5a0cb69

Lets see how fast this gets driven up.
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StreetsAhead
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(01-24-2013, 02:30 AM)
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This is on my most wanted list. Quite excited!
Conrad Link
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(01-24-2013, 02:31 AM)
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Does Mother 3 have music copyright issues as well?

Or they just can't be f**ked translating it?
Drago
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(01-24-2013, 02:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Conrad Link

Does Mother 3 have music copyright issues as well?

Or they just can't be f**ked translating it?

There would be some legal issues with that one too.

Off the top of my head I know that the Batman theme riff is used in a battle theme, among a few other things.
emb
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(01-24-2013, 02:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Itoi

Well, yeah, maybe that's it. I wanted to make a playground that everyone would value down to the tiniest or most insignificant thing. The goal I probably didn't think of before making it was to be discovered by players throughout the world. Yeah, that's one thing I wanted to do.

T_T
cartman414
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(01-24-2013, 02:35 AM)
Well, this game's as good as abandonware here. (I wish. Like that term's a real thing.)
SmithnCo
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(01-24-2013, 02:37 AM)
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God Dammit NOA. PLEASE
twinturbo2
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(01-24-2013, 02:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Amir0x

this was the thing they were hinting at? Something that'll never come to the USA :/

They said the same thing about Xenoblade, and I have a copy that plays in my US American Wii.

They said the same thing about The Last Story, and that came over.

They said the same thing about Pandora's Tower, and that's coming over in a couple of months.

Never give up. Never surrender your dreams.
terrisus
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(01-24-2013, 02:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by twinturbo2

They said the same thing about Xenoblade, and I have a copy that plays in my US American Wii.

They said the same thing about The Last Story, and that came over.

They said the same thing about Pandora's Tower, and that's coming over in a couple of months.

Never give up. Never surrender your dreams.

They said the same thing about Mother
They said the same thing about Mother 3

Imported both of those, since waiting didn't seem too fruitful. And so far, years having passed by already, that's provided to be the correct decision.
And I'd gladly take either of those over all of those three combined.
twinturbo2
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(01-24-2013, 03:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by terrisus

They said the same thing about Mother
They said the same thing about Mother 3

Imported both of those, since waiting didn't seem too fruitful. And so far, years having passed by already, that's provided to be the correct decision.
And I'd gladly take either of those over all of those three combined.

Hey, weirder things have happened.
CronoShot
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(01-24-2013, 03:35 AM)
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It pains me that I'll never get to play this game. Or any Mother game, really.
GulAtiCa
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(01-24-2013, 03:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by entrement

Don't worry, guys, eBay to the rescue:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Earthbound-S...item4d08e1f652

If you go for cart alone, it's only $200. Not that that is cheap of course. lol. I am however very curious on how high this auction will go.
Actually, you can get the Japanese version of the game for like $30. lol
Rash
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(01-24-2013, 03:47 AM)
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Mother 2 Miiverse Siege, people! Set your Miiverse to the Japan region and hammer them with posts showing your love for the game and demanding it!
JavyOO7
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(01-24-2013, 03:48 AM)
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I regret not buying Earthbound when I had the chance to when it first came out in America.

And Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.

I'm super sad right now...
Drago
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(01-24-2013, 03:51 AM)
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The thing that stings the most is that I lost my copy in a move earlier this year, and I don't want to pay $150 for a replacement cart.

I need a virtual console release of this. :'(

And I wouldn't be surprised if Mother 3 was the first game on Japan's GBA VC
Rash
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(01-24-2013, 03:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by JavyOO7

I regret not buying Earthbound when I had the chance to when it first came out in America.

And Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.

I'm super sad right now...

Funny, around 1996 I walked into Funcoland with my brother and we picked up those two games!
Jarate
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(01-24-2013, 03:54 AM)
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Mother is one of the few games series out there that I support the "illegal" downloading of.

I have an earthbound cart, so it doesnt really affect me, but come on, there shouldnt be moral issues regarding Earthbound "piracy." The game is pretty unobtainable to western markets
Man Puncher
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(01-24-2013, 03:55 AM)
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I want this to come out on VC if only to watch the prices on eBay drop and the overcharging scumbags cry.
thekonamicode
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(01-24-2013, 03:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Man Puncher

I want this to come out on VC if only to watch the prices on eBay drop and the overcharging scumbags cry.

Market dictates price, anyone listing a copy near the average going rate is hardly a scumbag.
ChosenPredator
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(01-24-2013, 03:59 AM)
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whats wrong with nintendo why don't they bring it here.....i wish they would get flooded daily with people who want this game non stop
Diddy Kong
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(01-24-2013, 04:01 AM)
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Question. Was MOTHER (1) ever put up on VC? If not, would MOTHER 2 coming before it indicate that they're working on that one first since it's the only one that's made it to the states?
Drago
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(01-24-2013, 04:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Diddy Kong

Question. Was MOTHER (1) ever put up on VC? If not, would MOTHER 2 coming before it indicate that they're working on that one first since it's the only one that's made it to the states?

Neither Mother 1 or 2 were released on VC anywhere in the world.

And Mother 2 was the only one that made it to the States, not 1, but there is a complete localization that was made by NoA that was never officially released.
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I'm still pissed by brother gave away a brand new copy of Earthbound to a friend of the family because they only had 1 SNES game at the time and he felt bad for him. This was back in the late 90's before it was worth a lot, but even then it was a rare game. My brother gave it because it was the only brand new game I had lying around, if I had had any other game sealed he probably would have given that. My brother was in elementary at the time though so I guess he didn't know any better.

EDIT: I hope it gets released just to drive the Ebay prices down. If Nintendo didn't get used back when they first released I don't think they'll be getting sued now. If they do release it they better not change anything about it like with Star Tropics. Sign a damn contract if you're worried but there is no excuse for changing a game from how it was originally released.
18-Volt
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(01-24-2013, 04:11 AM)
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The funny thing is Nintendo will remind us the franchise still exist with adding even more Mother content to Smash Bros. It's not because NoA ignores the series, it's because NCL hates us non-Japanese people.

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