A what?But never leave home without a playmat, don't want to look like a crazy person.
I'm not. I don't really sell my cards anyway. I'm a black hole of magic cards.Originally Posted by WanderingWind
Bottom line, you're potentially throwing money away for absolutely no reason. I mean, it's kind of cute to pretend you don't give a shit, but some shit is just kinda dumb. Don't chuck away money, bro.
Yeah, I always ask my opponents if its OK to rifle their deck unsleaved. Also, with most people running their prerelease foil, it really sticks out in shuffling.Originally Posted by Zaraki_Kenpachi
Ya, that's the only reason I hate it. Makes it hard to cut/randomize on them. I mean I don't think you can just riffle shuffle but I've also had those people try to cheat the most. Do really bullshit shuffling techniques because they know there's no good way to shuffle unless you do something they can bitch about like riffle shuffling.
Play Magic online. You may get dicks there but the dick to non-dick ratio is a lot lower. Edit: That's not to say there won't be dicks, but I haven't really ran into dicks in casual play. Maybe in drafts they're there, but well... that's "serious business" time. And you can just ignore the fucker/minimize their window/chat log and only show the card tabs. *shrug*Originally Posted by ChiTownBuffalo
I'm hoping to find a place where I can drop in and play Magic. I still have other store around to check out.
If Magic online had a FNM that wasn't Thursday Night Magic (because you know... the weekend for us online people doesn't really start until Friday you know?) I'd play Magic online a lot more. I mean it has some good value and if showing up for casual play was possible without a shit ton of money being thrown around in online, I'd think it'd be a good replacement for the paper variant.If MTGO wasn't an such an eyesore, I would as well. I want to play more Magic, but none of my friends are interested, I can't really get into MTGO, and the local community isn't really somewhere I want to spend my Friday night. Duels of the Planeswalkers is good but lacks deck building (trial & error) and the collecting aspect. I spose I'll have to man up and either go to FNM or embrace MTGO. I just think that WotC is missing out on a much bigger opportunity with online play. In it's current state, I don't think they are going to attract many new players.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that the art is normally anime style females wearing shockingly little clothing.It's basically a big rectangular mousepad, used so you dont play your cards on a dirty table that'll rough up your sleeves faster. You can get them with all types of pictures, or even make one with your own.
My thoughts:Originally Posted by Boogalogist
What format do you guys usually play? I'm never touching Standard. I've only touched Limited like twice..during some pre-release / release events.
I used to play casual Legacy...and then moved on EDH.
Now I have about 6 EDH decks (Azami, Edric, Lin Sivvi, Zedruu, Nath, Lord of Tresserhorn)..and planning more.
EDH MP is just so damn enjoyable! Hate the shuffling though. Wonder if there's a shuffling machine for MtG cards that works with sleeves.
Ya, depends on where you go though. Shop I go to is small enough that most of us use die and there's not complaint. But it's also a much smaller format, other places I would never do it. We also don't have a judge at our store so... We used to but the kid got so many rulings wrong we stopped using him, there'e hardly a mistake now.Yeah, I always ask my opponents if its OK to rifle their deck unsleaved. Also, with most people running their prerelease foil, it really sticks out in shuffling.
More important than sleaves- BRING A PEN AND PAPER. Your going to get your d20 in the guild pack, but use paper instead because unlike a die that can easily fall over, you can use a more consistent method to keep track of both players total. If there is a disputed life total, the judge is going to lean towards the player using paper than the guy with a die.
NOTHING, NOTHING will be as bad the kid who would come with a playmat with a super blown up picture of dark magician girl in a bikini. Most awkward matches ever, it was even horribly done since the image was blown up too much and was actually pixelated from that.Originally Posted by WanderingWind
So tilted
Mixing in previous cards is super cheating. Seriously don't do it. You'd get kicked out of the tournament if you got caught. Just use what you opened for that tournament (and keep them separate from any other cards you bring, especially any previously opened Gatecrash stuff).Originally Posted by Twisted-Gamer
Question: say on Saturday or Sunday, can I bring my other pack of cards I received on Friday at midnight and mix the deck that I'd use for the tournament? or am I only permitted to use the cards I receive out of the box that they give me?
It's a great way to get banned by DCI/your store. Its about the biggest form of cheating you can do in Limited.Originally Posted by Twisted-Gamer
Question: say on Saturday or Sunday, can I bring my other pack of cards I received on Friday at midnight and mix the deck that I'd use for the tournament? or am I only permitted to use the cards I receive out of the box that they give me?
Thanks! Yeah I wasn't sure how it worked. I don't wanna be a cheater, thanks for the heads up.Mixing in previous cards is super cheating. Seriously don't do it. You'd get kicked out of the tournament if you got caught. Just use what you opened for that tournament (and keep them separate from any other cards you bring, especially any previously opened Gatecrash stuff).
So you WERE distracted.....Originally Posted by Zaraki_Kenpachi
NOTHING, NOTHING will be as bad the kid who would come with a playmat with a super blown up picture of dark magician girl in a bikini. Most awkward matches ever, it was even horribly done since the image was blown up too much and was actually pixelated from that.
AWKWARD
Yeah, people with creepy anime playmats scare me. I don't normally use a playmat, but I won this cool Mox playmat from a tournament, so i use it from time to timeOriginally Posted by Zaraki_Kenpachi
NOTHING, NOTHING will be as bad the kid who would come with a playmat with a super blown up picture of dark magician girl in a bikini. Most awkward matches ever, it was even horribly done since the image was blown up too much and was actually pixelated from that.
AWKWARD
Well it was more his demeanor that came off as creepy in addition to the mat that made it so weird.Originally Posted by Boogalogist
So you WERE distracted.....
This pic comes to mind from your description...
That's actually a pretty tame playmat. I was actually just searching eBay for a new playmat and there are some really creepy ones.Originally Posted by Zaraki_Kenpachi
I think this was it....
All I remember is a bikini and kuriboh.
Well it was more his demeanor that came off as creepy in addition to the mat that made it so weird.
I didn't know you played Magic the Gathering. :OFriends in NY expressed that they had bought some MTG product and started to play casually after a long hiatus. However the whole $$$ problem presents itself, apparently with one person in the group immediately going and dropping cash on powerful cards to get an advantage over everyone else. Typical shit that sours casual playgroups in a flash.
So I figured I'd take my collection and build a Cube from it, round it out with some online purchases, and bring it with me next time I'm down there. Cube is a great solution for avoiding power imbalances among the player base and not requiring a constant money investment to keep things fresh.
I went through my collection of loose cards (not going to break down my duel deck sets and my five commander decks and all that), and I have about 180 vaguely Cube playable. Then I ordered common+uncommon sets of M13, M12, M11, Avacyn, Innistrad, and New Phyrexia, since I don't have any cards from those sets and they're readily ebay available very cheap. I'll round that out with 30-50 singles card purchases for some affordable iconic cards and bombs/fatties (not the overpriced new hotness in standard or any planeswalkers or legacy staples, so not much $$), probably remove 1/3 to 1/2 of the loose cards I've already set aside for the cube once the rest comes in, and that should be enough to call it a day with a 360 card cube set.
It's probably a bit too much work for the hypothetical payoff, but it's a neat little project. Half the time I fly out there I do stupid shit like go buy theme decks and boosters or deck builders toolkits on a whim to have some casual deckbuilding fun with a friend anyway, since all my cards are elsewhere, so this is a lot more sensible.
I'd be interested in seeing your cube list. I've been watching cube draft videos on channelfireball and it looks like a lot of fun. Like you I don't want to take my edh decks apart so I'm wondering if I could go for a budget cube. Anyone have any tips on how to go about building an interesting cube?...
i dont remember actual decks, but memorable and funny moments included once when I won a game with that red instant that deals 2 damage for each non-basic land. the guy got so ticked off. thats what made it funny.Originally Posted by Boogalogist
What are the funniest or most memorable decks you guys played with or against?
I'm surprised your friends don't draft, drafting with a new set is always so much fun . Next week!Friends in NY expressed that they had bought some MTG product and started to play casually after a long hiatus. However the whole $$$ problem presents itself, apparently with one person in the group immediately going and dropping cash on powerful cards to get an advantage over everyone else. Typical shit that sours casual playgroups in a flash.
So I figured I'd take my collection and build a Cube from it, round it out with some online purchases, and bring it with me next time I'm down there. Cube is a great solution for avoiding power imbalances among the player base and not requiring a constant money investment to keep things fresh.
I went through my collection of loose cards (not going to break down my duel deck sets and my five commander decks and all that), and I have about 180 vaguely Cube playable. Then I ordered common+uncommon sets of M13, M12, M11, Avacyn, Innistrad, and New Phyrexia, since I don't have any cards from those sets and they're readily ebay available very cheap. I'll round that out with 30-50 singles card purchases for some affordable iconic cards and bombs/fatties (not the overpriced new hotness in standard or any planeswalkers or legacy staples, so not much $$), probably remove 1/3 to 1/2 of the loose cards I've already set aside for the cube once the rest comes in, and that should be enough to call it a day with a 360 card cube set.
It's probably a bit too much work for the hypothetical payoff, but it's a neat little project. Half the time I fly out there I do stupid shit like go buy theme decks and boosters or deck builders toolkits on a whim to have some casual deckbuilding fun with a friend anyway, since all my cards are elsewhere, so this is a lot more sensible.
Pauper cubes are actually pretty popular and affordable. I think the biggest question to start with is what I just asked EviLore, how many people do you typically get or plan on playing with?I'd be interested in seeing your cube list. I've been watching cube draft videos on channelfireball and it looks like a lot of fun. Like you I don't want to take my edh decks apart so I'm wondering if I could go for a budget cube. Anyone have any tips on how to go about building an interesting cube?
My friend has a pretty interesting EDH deck. It tries to kill you with enchantments and stuff. Like last time he had phyrexian tyrrany and teferi's puzzle box out. Ouch. Couldn't dig for an answer in time and my other friend was running a Krenko deck with like 1 artifact removal spell.Originally Posted by Boogalogist
What are the funniest or most memorable decks you guys played with or against?
I only play magic with a handful of friends. Usually we're with 3 total and sometimes up to 6 or 8 but that's rare. Is doing a cube with 3 people even viable?Pauper cubes are actually pretty popular and affordable. I think the biggest question to start with is what I just asked EviLore, how many people do you typically get or plan on playing with?
Also, don't feel like you need to put real cards in your Cube. I have a Powered Cube but I proxy any significantly valuable card to put in it. One reason being that I play with strangers so I don't really want to tempt any random asshole to steal cards from me, two things happen like spilled drinks or what not, and three it lets me print some really cool alternate art proxies.
Like a Time Spiral proxy I made:
No hard rules for design, but typically you'll do one of each card max, something like 60 of each color, 30 artifacts, 30 nonbasic land = 360. Or 50 of each color + gold and differing amounts of artifacts and nonbasic lands. Or 480 cards. Or 720 cards. Whatever you want. People have found that you generally want 1:1 ratio of spells to creatures in white, red, and black, and skew toward creatures in green and toward spells in blue. Adjust CMC averages based on how you want the games to flow. Power cubes (full of proxies unless you're $$$$$), combo cubes, tribal cubes, block cubes, you have tons of possibilities: you're basically creating your own custom Magic set to draft from. Think of it like that.I'd be interested in seeing your cube list. I've been watching cube draft videos on channelfireball and it looks like a lot of fun. Like you I don't want to take my edh decks apart so I'm wondering if I could go for a budget cube. Anyone have any tips on how to go about building an interesting cube?
They're poor, hence why I thought setting up a cube for everyone would be a nice idea. ;bI'm surprised your friends don't draft, drafting with a new set is always so much fun . Next week!
You could do cube with 3 people as long as you don't mind being unorthodox. Sometimes if it's just 3 of us what we'll do is draft with something like 6 packs of 9 cards (every player will still have 45 cards for their pool) to make it more interesting. 3 packs of 15 with only 3 players leaves a lot of crap wheeling around for an archetype no one is using (like say reanimator or white weenie). Also with 3 players we tend to player 3 player free for all or something so we draft with that in mind which also makes certain cards better (Aura of Silence) and some cards worse (most aggressive one and two drops since you have more than one opponent.)I only play magic with a handful of friends. Usually we're with 3 total and sometimes up to 6 or 8 but that's rare. Is doing a cube with 3 people even viable?
Yeah I can imagine you'd want to proxy the nice cards when you're playing with strangers.
Cube is probably the best way to casually play magic with a group but with the only downside of having to practically design a fair set to draft. Some friends of mine have been talking about making one for awhile as our preferred casual format, commander, often turns unfun when someone gets a little too competitive, like one of the guys you're talking about.Friends in NY expressed that they had bought some MTG product and started to play casually after a long hiatus. However the whole $$$ problem presents itself, apparently with one person in the group immediately going and dropping cash on powerful cards to get an advantage over everyone else. Typical shit that sours casual playgroups in a flash.
So I figured I'd take my collection and build a Cube from it, round it out with some online purchases, and bring it with me next time I'm down there. Cube is a great solution for avoiding power imbalances among the player base and not requiring a constant money investment to keep things fresh.
I went through my collection of loose cards (not going to break down my duel deck sets and my five commander decks and all that), and I have about 180 vaguely Cube playable. Then I ordered common+uncommon sets of M13, M12, M11, Avacyn, Innistrad, and New Phyrexia, since I don't have any cards from those sets and they're readily ebay available very cheap. I'll round that out with 30-50 singles card purchases for some affordable iconic cards and bombs/fatties (not the overpriced new hotness in standard or any planeswalkers or legacy staples, so not much $$), probably remove 1/3 to 1/2 of the loose cards I've already set aside for the cube once the rest comes in, and that should be enough to call it a day with a 360 card cube set.
It's probably a bit too much work for the hypothetical payoff, but it's a neat little project. Half the time I fly out there I do stupid shit like go buy theme decks and boosters or deck builders toolkits on a whim to have some casual deckbuilding fun with a friend anyway, since all my cards are elsewhere, so this is a lot more sensible.
So you don't like turn one Tinkering in a Blightsteel Colossus? :PCube is probably the best way to casually play magic with a group but with the only downside of having to practically design a fair set to draft. Some friends of mine have been talking about making one for awhile as our preferred casual format, commander, often turns unfun when someone gets a little too competitive, like one of the guys you're talking about.
Let us know how it turns out. Always neat to see a cube that actually has some normal cards in it and not just parts from Tier 1 legacy decks.
It has gotta be Price of Progress. It used in fast aggro-burn in legacy. extremely painful...since legacy decks' mana base are mostly non-basic.i dont remember actual decks, but memorable and funny moments included once when I won a game with that red instant that deals 2 damage for each non-basic land. the guy got so ticked off. thats what made it funny.
Whatever you want. People have found that you generally want 1:1 ratio of spells to creatures in white, red, and black, and skew toward creatures in green and toward spells in blue. Adjust CMC averages based on how you want the games to flow.
Ah this helps a lot.You could do cube with 3 people as long as you don't mind being unorthodox. Sometimes if it's just 3 of us what we'll do is draft with something like 6 packs of 9 cards (every player will still have 45 cards for their pool) to make it more interesting. 3 packs of 15 with only 3 players leaves a lot of crap wheeling around for an archetype no one is using (like say reanimator or white weenie). Also with 3 players we tend to player 3 player free for all or something so we draft with that in mind which also makes certain cards better (Aura of Silence) and some cards worse (most aggressive one and two drops since you have more than one opponent.)
When people do stuff like that in EDH (where tinker is thankfully banned) then I introduce my own rule changes like the "rcizzle scry" which says I can scry until I find an answer. Nobody at the table seems to mind except the guy with the cheated-in blightsteel/t-don/eldrazi.So you don't like turn one Tinkering in a Blightsteel Colossus? :P
Tinker is banned in EDH for a reason and thankfully restricted in Vintage and obviously there's only one of in a Cube.When people do stuff like that in EDH (where tinker is thankfully banned) then I introduce my own rule changes like the "rcizzle scry" which says I can scry until I find an answer. Nobody at the table seems to mind except the guy with the cheated-in blightsteel/t-don/eldrazi.
Naw, other people do similar stuff and we all get a kick out of it. Most of the time we'll play by the rules but super-competitive stuff usually gets hated on pretty badly. Like a Krosan Gripped top quickly escalates into that person having no permanents. >:|Tinker is banned in EDH for a reason and thankfully restricted in Vintage and obviously there's only one of in a Cube.
Not sure how I feel about your rule changes, I think that'd be a quick way to not get played with. :P
My friend removed Blightsteel from his cube for precisely this. As much fun as it is the first time, it's way too easy to set up and just isn't much fun in the end, which is the point of cube in the first place.So you don't like turn one Tinkering in a Blightsteel Colossus? :P
This actually sounds really fun, and I think I have the collection to put one together (at the very least I can buy what I need). I should make a project of itPauper cubes are actually pretty popular and affordable. I think the biggest question to start with is what I just asked EviLore, how many people do you typically get or plan on playing with?
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