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zoukka
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(02-03-2013, 01:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by waypoetic

Lol. The body is a Wii U controller dude.

So? Most of the mockups haven't been 1:1 dualshock dimensions either and the Wii U pad has been gathering some mad respect.
Knux-Future
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(02-03-2013, 01:34 PM)
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People...

Sony just can't copy Microsoft's design. I think they have pattens and stuff on it. IIRC that the reason why the WiiU Pro controller's second stick is above the buttons.

and even so...wouldn't they want to differentiate themselves?

besides the dualshock design is iconic.

Better grips and triggers and it will be awesome.
Duffyside
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(02-03-2013, 01:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Knux-Future

People...

Sony just can't copy Microsoft's design. I think they have pattens and stuff on it. IIRC that the reason why the WiiU Pro controller's second stick is above the buttons.

and even so...wouldn't they want to differentiate themselves?

besides the dualshock design is iconic.

Better grips and triggers and it will be awesome.

Does the patent say "we take the Dreamcast controller and put another analog stick on it"?
UrbanRats
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(02-03-2013, 01:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by kairu



Took another stab trying to simplify things a bet and taking some other ideas from others (liked roboplato's select/start location!)

Originally Posted by Mista Koo

Small edit on the one kairu made:



No need for the touch pad boundaries, the texture should feel different.

Wow.. wow, these are perfect.
Give me Mista Koo's with kairu's stick and it's a deal.
Last edited by UrbanRats; 02-03-2013 at 01:48 PM.
jett
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(02-03-2013, 01:50 PM)
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The reason the sticks are in the upper position on the Wii U Pro controller is to match the same layout as the Wii U Gamepad, I imagine.

Originally Posted by Duffyside

Does the patent say "we take the Dreamcast controller and put another analog stick on it"?

Dem patents.
yurinka
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(02-03-2013, 03:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by UrbanRats

Wow.. wow, these are perfect.
Give me Mista Koo's with kairu's stick and it's a deal.

Yes, they only miss one thing:
2 additional face buttons for Street Fighter orgasms

Originally Posted by DarҖaoZ

SIX FACE BUTTONS... Why can't anybody make a official controller with 6 face buttons! >_<

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IcyRhythms
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(02-03-2013, 06:03 PM)
If not the PS4, then what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yc0G8-_iGw
Noisepurge
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(02-03-2013, 07:16 PM)
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thread stopped? :D want more concept wars!

VGChampion
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(02-03-2013, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by UrbanRats

Wow.. wow, these are perfect.
Give me Mista Koo's with kairu's stick and it's a deal.

Yep. Best of both worlds. I would prefer no boundaries as that's where the dust always piles up.
Duxxy3
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(02-03-2013, 07:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by kairu



Took another stab trying to simplify things a bet and taking some other ideas from others (liked roboplato's select/start location!)

Man i hope this is what the controller looks like.
Noisepurge
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(02-03-2013, 07:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by VGChampion

Yep. Best of both worlds. I would prefer no boundaries as that's where the dust always piles up.

dust? more like dead skin and dirt :P
ChimpanzeeThat
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(02-03-2013, 07:30 PM)
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Isn't there a controller that you can get for current consoles that allows you to swap out the position of the D-Pad and the analogue sticks?

I'd love to see something like that for the Orbis or the Durango.

I'm sure Sony will have something close to the design of the DualShock design but i prefer the Xbox 360's analogue stick positions. I don't have large hands and feel like my hands are stretched so to speak with the DS.
waypoetic
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(02-03-2013, 07:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by IcyRhythms

If not the PS4, then what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yc0G8-_iGw

You really love HL2 huh
Noisepurge
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(02-03-2013, 07:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by ChimpanzeeThat

Isn't there a controller that you can get for current consoles that allows you to swap out the position of the D-Pad and the analogue sticks?

yeah the MLG Controller


it even has convex and concave variants of the sticks and two different d-pads.
waypoetic
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(02-03-2013, 07:40 PM)
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^ ... And it's shit expensive :(
Noisepurge
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(02-03-2013, 07:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by waypoetic

^ ... And it's shit expensive :(

true, and apparently, it's not even that amahzing :D

and i doubt Sony would include such a system. Can you imagine the confusion among the average consumer. Also dealing with repairs and spare parts...i just dont see it happening :D

Microsoft tried this a little with the rotating D-pad on the latest iteration of the 360 controller.
ChimpanzeeThat
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(02-03-2013, 07:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Noisepurge

yeah the MLG Controller


it even has convex and concave variants of the sticks and two different d-pads.

That's awesome.

And i just saw the price.........yikes.

Still, the idea is pretty good, i like that you can alter it to suit how you play.
Sickboy007
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(02-03-2013, 08:40 PM)
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My mishmash



boomerang 2.0
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Insane Metal
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(02-03-2013, 08:48 PM)
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It looks good, but I'm not sure if it would be comfy to out hands...
Rickenslacker
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(02-03-2013, 08:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mista Koo

Small edit on the one kairu made:



No need for the touch pad boundaries, the texture should feel different.

I would loooove that d-pad.
SomeOneInaHat
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(02-03-2013, 09:01 PM)
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What ever Sony Decides to use I'll hope that they make it work natively with PCs.
velociraptor
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(02-03-2013, 09:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by waypoetic

Lol. The body is a Wii U controller dude.

It has the same shape as the 360 pad. Which is more comfortable than the DS3.

Plus, it looks really nice!
Blueandigo
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(02-03-2013, 09:29 PM)

Originally Posted by kairu



Took another stab trying to simplify things a bet and taking some other ideas from others (liked roboplato's select/start location!)

Holy shit that is amazing.

Originally Posted by Noisepurge

Concept WARS! :D

made minor improvements to my formula based on other ideas(industrial espionage!):


Start & Select are still touch buttons on the surface.

And i still believe they will NOT change the silhouette. It is already so recognizable.

Oh my goodness!

Originally Posted by jett

With bigger sticks:




I personally do hope it goes away, it's not ergonomic or aesthetically pleasing.




What in the entire hell is this?
Fraull
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(02-03-2013, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by kairu



Took another stab trying to simplify things a bet and taking some other ideas from others (liked roboplato's select/start location!)

Something like this would amazing. The controller needs an evolution, shouldnt look like the last 3 generations in terms of the overall shape.
TimeEffect
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(02-03-2013, 09:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by ChimpanzeeThat

That's awesome.

And i just saw the price.........yikes.

Still, the idea is pretty good, i like that you can alter it to suit how you play.

Probably because it's the only controller to have the swap, so they jack up the price?

I wonder how much it really costs to implement that
demosthenes
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(02-03-2013, 09:48 PM)
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What would the touch pad be fore specifically?
Noisepurge
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(02-03-2013, 10:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by TimeEffect

Probably because it's the only controller to have the swap, so they jack up the price?

I wonder how much it really costs to implement that

More like that its a very niche product and can be sold for a similar price as a proper Arcade Stick for hardcore gamers :D
Gilby
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(02-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
If they round the bottom of the handles more, fix the triggers, and for the love of all that's holy spread the analog sticks apart some more, I'll be happy.
jett
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(02-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blueandigo

What in the entire hell is this?

The best looking controller in the entire thread if I do say so myself :P
Mister_Bubbles
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(02-03-2013, 10:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by demosthenes

What would the touch pad be fore specifically?

Swiping left and right to flick through menus / select new skills, flick up to throw grenades, slide finger down to pull levers, that sort of thing perhaps?
DarҖaoZ
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(02-03-2013, 10:16 PM)

Originally Posted by yurinka

Yes, they only miss one thing:
2 additional face buttons for Street Fighter orgasms

Yup, I want 6 buttons for fighters and other games that would benefit from it.

I did 2 layouts of the buttons in my mockup a few pages back.

Hey Kairu I hope you don't mind if I modify your design a bit.

Here is my idea of how the DS4 would look with 6 face buttons:

STRAIGHT BUTTONS

CURVED BUTTONS

I also added that chromed ring around the Stick, it just looks so swag! lol

The + and - buttons were used by Sony in the controller prototypes, so I think it would be nice to have them back.

James Sawyer Ford
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(02-03-2013, 10:19 PM)
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I think EVERYONE has the form factor wrong.

I do not expect this controller to be shaped like a dual shock whatsoever. The ergonomics simply don't work for a touch screen.

I believe it will be designed similarly to the vita, but obviously with a larger area allocated to ergonomics and the size of the analog sticks.

I think this mock-up has it correct (without the screen, and perhaps only slightly smaller):

weekend_warrior
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(02-03-2013, 10:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by demosthenes

What would the touch pad be fore specifically?

  • Keyboard input. Sony has a technology were a touchpad can detect your finger hovering above it, and you'd have a keyboard on the screen which you'd use you located your finger and input the correct keys.

  • Extra buttons, you could easily fit 8 extra buttons on a decent sized touchpad, you wouldn't actually see them on the controller but you'd know where to touch the pad to activate them.

  • A 3th or 4th stick input. Just slide your finger around the pad and it acts like a stick or laptop mouse cursor. Would be great for map control, just imagine pinch to zoom, rotate, etc.

Originally Posted by James Sawyer Ford

I think EVERYONE has the form factor wrong.

I do not expect this controller to be shaped like a dual shock whatsoever. The ergonomics simply don't work for a touch screen.

I believe it will be designed similarly to the vita, but obviously with a larger area allocated to ergonomics and the size of the analog sticks.

I think this mock-up has it correct (without the screen, and perhaps only slightly smaller):

That's a really nice mock-up but I don't think it realistic at all. Sony isn't looking to make a WiiU.
Noisepurge
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(02-03-2013, 10:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by James Sawyer Ford

I think EVERYONE has the form factor wrong.

I think this mock-up has it correct (without the screen, and perhaps only slightly smaller):

It wont have a touchscreen. And again, this would be another 200$ controller...
Sowee
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(02-03-2013, 10:41 PM)
I havent seen any mockups here with a back touchpad. Maybe thats what they're planning.
Mista Koo
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(02-03-2013, 10:42 PM)
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Made a new more polished mockup:


(Larger version)

The touch pad is clickable, click anywhere for start click bottom left for select (similar to the Macbook's touch pad).
In my previous one it was supposedly a tappable touch pad (tap to click, doesn't actually click).

Originally Posted by UrbanRats

Give me Mista Koo's with kairu's stick and it's a deal.

While I prefer the Xbox's stick, I wanted to stick with the Playstation stick (stick pun unintended).
Last edited by Mista Koo; 02-03-2013 at 11:05 PM.
RoboPlato
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(02-03-2013, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sowee

I havent seen any mockups here with a back touchpad. Maybe thats what they're planning.

The rumor says it's replacing the Start and Select buttons, which have been removed.
James Sawyer Ford
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(02-03-2013, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Noisepurge

It wont have a touchscreen. And again, this would be another 200$ controller...

Re-read my post. It probably wont have a touch screen, but the dimensions are what I expect from the next PS controller.
Sowee
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(02-03-2013, 10:45 PM)

Originally Posted by RoboPlato

The rumor says it's replacing the Start and Select buttons, which have been removed.

Mmm. Thanks for the heads up!
Nerfgun
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(02-03-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sowee

I havent seen any mockups here with a back touchpad. Maybe thats what they're planning.

The rumours say it's on the front.
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(02-03-2013, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by kairu



Took another stab trying to simplify things a bet and taking some other ideas from others (liked roboplato's select/start location!)

If another traditional type DualShock controller comes out again, this is what it should look like. I like everything about this except for the concave sticks.
RoboPlato
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(02-03-2013, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by plainr_

If another traditional type DualShock controller comes out again, this is what it should look like. I like everything about this except for the concave sticks.

Yeah, that's definitely the best of the mock ups. I have no preference on concave or convex sticks myself so I'm fine either way.
Floex
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(02-03-2013, 10:51 PM)
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These touchscreen ideas are just so stupid, I really hope Sony have something more to the controller than that
Haunted
(02-03-2013, 10:56 PM)
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real talk

Do we need a dpad on a modern controller?
RoboPlato
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(02-03-2013, 10:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haunted

Honest question.

Do we need a dpad on a modern controller?

It's used for a lot of stuff like item switching and stuff and is nicer for menu navigation and fighting games. I use it in pretty much every game in some capacity.
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(02-03-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haunted

real talk

Do we need a dpad on a modern controller?

Most games use it for weapons/item change or quick acces to inventory.

//beaten
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(02-03-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato

It's used for a lot of stuff like item switching and stuff and is nicer for menu navigation and fighting games.

Originally Posted by ekim

Most games use it for weapons/item change or quick acces to inventory.

I'm not saying to leave the newly created space empty.

But the way many games do item switching (4 directions, single input) is based on the dpad, not the other way around.

Menu navigation is completely manageable with a stick and a single genre (2D fighting games) is not a good enough reason to keep old conventions around.
Last edited by Haunted; 02-03-2013 at 11:01 PM.
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(02-03-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haunted

real talk

Do we need a dpad on a modern controller?

Absolutely.
Cyborg
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(02-03-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by plainr_

If another traditional type DualShock controller comes out again, this is what it should look like. I like everything about this except for the concave sticks.

This could work
Alistair Roo
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(02-03-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mista Koo

Small edit on the one kairu made:



No need for the touch pad boundaries, the texture should feel different.

Originally Posted by kairu



Took another stab trying to simplify things a bet and taking some other ideas from others (liked roboplato's select/start location!)


Now we're talking
both are amazing
I like Kairu's mock up but Mista Koo's edit looks glorious

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