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IHaveIce
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(02-03-2013, 07:19 PM)
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Halo 3 and Halo 2 would be too awesome on Steam.


Clearly Halo 3 is a codeword for Half life 3 ... GET HYPED:
Dr Dogg
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

3) MS is the leakiest publisher/platform owner on earth; they leaked their whole E3 lineup last year through a webpage glitch. They leaked Halo Reach a day or two in advance the year before that. They've leaked stuff through focus group mail. They've leaked stuff through bad Xbox.com postings, including most upcoming XBLA games getting listings and box arts before official announcement. Games leak all the time through premature achievement list postings, and through ParterNet listings. Are you really saying they run a tight enough ship to avoid inadvertent disclosures?

Very good point. The amount of times someone has pressed the release button (or whatever) on the marketplace and accidentally put up dlc months in advance is comical at best. At one point before xbox.com hid all the entry fields in javascript you could parse through the array created and see lots of unreleased stuff.
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

Only been in the registry for a month, was added to a Zombie Software compilation including Special Forces Team X, which released this week. Chances are they're planning on releasing a Steam version, they just added all of their games in advance of porting them and releasing them one by one.

No, Saw 2 has been in the registry for years. Also the nvidia drivers have a profile for the game for years (indicating it was planned, but cancelled).
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Originally Posted by Dr Dogg

Very good point. The amount of times someone has pressed the release button (or whatever) on the marketplace and accidentally put up dlc months in advance is comical at best.

Most recently accidentally releasing Crimson Dragon for a day, LOL.
I H8 Memes
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(02-03-2013, 07:21 PM)
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Not saying they run a tight ship, I'm saying that everyone inside of Valve and anyone working at MS that would have been involved in this move would know that adding anything related to Halo to the registry would result in people knowing before an official announcement.
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(02-03-2013, 07:21 PM)
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Wasn't there something posted about MS pursuing ways to release content on Steam?
This seems to be linked
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(02-03-2013, 07:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fersis

Why is KOF 'weird' bro? >8( So racist.

Let's not forget SNK's bad history with piracy. SNK should not consider releasing Neo Geo games...unless a video gamer is honest enough to drop the moolah for SNK.
I know I'd drop $10 for a Garou port with good online tho~
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(02-03-2013, 07:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by ArjanN

Agreed for the most part.

Halo 3 and KOFXIII are the only really surprising ones on that list.
Everything else was either already confirmed or suggested anyway.

And would Halo 3 really be that strange? The game is "old" now and MS could still make some easy money by throwing it on Steam.

This is probably legit.

Halo 3 coming to PC would be an admission from Microsoft that their screwing of the format for the past decade or so was the wrong decision and now they're going to have to dance to Valve's tune. I'd also question if either Microsoft or SNK would bother to spend resources to have a Windows port done (especially SNK, considering they don't have much resources and generally PC and Steam is an unproven format for fighting games).
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(02-03-2013, 07:22 PM)
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I guess this explains why they are turning the Halo 2 PC servers off.
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(02-03-2013, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes

Not saying they run a tight ship, I'm saying that everyone inside of Valve and anyone working at MS that would have been involved in this move would know that adding anything related to Halo to the registry would result in people knowing before an official announcement.

How would they know that stuff would leak? Because previous stuff leaked and there's no way to guard against a leak?

2) The way this stuff leaked is different than any previous leak; previously if you added a game to Steam, you would list it as ValveTestApp if you wanted to avoid it leaking in this way. These games are all added as ValveTestApp. The reason we have the titles is because Steam now has community hubs, and the community hubs were not marked as ValveTestApp, so by linking the registry/database ID to the community hub ID, we could extract the product names.

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(02-03-2013, 07:23 PM)
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Seems fairly clear to me that these are all coming/planned.
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(02-03-2013, 07:24 PM)
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I'd re-buy Halo 3 day one on Steam, I'll pay $60 for that amazing game. I trust the Steam community to keep the game alive, and even if they don't, Halo 4 at 60FPS <3.
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(02-03-2013, 07:25 PM)
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Are we also waiting for this?

Originally Posted by Glass Rebel


edit: ValveTestApp71340 (Total War: Cavemen)

lol come on

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(02-03-2013, 07:25 PM)
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I would be pretty hype for halo 3 PC. Of course, highly unlikely nevertheless.
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(02-03-2013, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by BosSin

Wasn't there something posted about MS pursuing ways to release content on Steam?
This seems to be linked

Well,
- GFWL being wound down
- Capcom (#1 GFWL partner) switches to Steamworks
- Recent 1st party XBLA games ported to Steam
- Patching GFWL out of previous GFWL-Steam releases.
- The job posting I mentioned in the OP about exploring further releases on Steam

So, yeah, I feel pretty confident that even if Halo doesn't come to pass, there's something occurring with MS-Steam's relationship :p

Originally Posted by I H8 Memes

Are we also waiting for this?

You changed your argument.

Your original argument was that this is not likely real because the PR implications make it unlikely to be real. That is not a good argument.

Your new argument is that this is not likely real because it's too weird to be real. I agree it's very weird, that's why I put it in the thread title, and why the vast majority of people in this thread have been approaching it with cautious, skeptical optimism.
Grief.exe
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(02-03-2013, 07:28 PM)
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The only thing that keeps me down on this is Microsoft is going to be in charge of porting.

GFWL
Horribly optimized
No FOV slider
No PC post-processing options
Tied to Windows 8
P2P online

I have always said I would take 3 or Reach in order to have a modern Halo on PC.

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

- GFWL being wound down
- Capcom (#1 GFWL partner) switches to Steamworks
- Recent 1st party XBLA games ported to Steam

Good day to be a PC gamer.

Microsoft Published XBLA policies are pretty good. They allow for a timed exclusive, then a port to other platforms.

Usually that ends up being PC since Steam seems to make the most profit.
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CrunchinJelly
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(02-03-2013, 07:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by fallagin

I would be pretty hype for halo 3 PC. Of course, highly unlikely nevertheless.

Is it really unlikely? Halo 3 came out five and a half years ago. It's dead on Xbox. May as well put it on PC and get some cash.

At this rate Halo 4 will be on PC in 2018.
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Rovio's Developer Comp was added a day before the Steam Holiday Sale, so that is probably something that will come soonish.
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(02-03-2013, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes

Are we also waiting for this?

I am. This would totally get me into the series. Sounds too genius to be true though.
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(02-03-2013, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes

Are we also waiting for this?

Mind you, CA also released Total War BATTLES: Shogun, which also appeared on iOS. TW: Cavemen could be similar.
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(02-03-2013, 07:29 PM)
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I'll take Fez, The Witness and Dyad. The Halo games are intriguing though.
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(02-03-2013, 07:29 PM)
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KING OF FIGHTERS!?!
Oh God please be true...this might fix the net issues folks have with console. I WILL DOUBLE DIP ON THIS!
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Originally Posted by crimsonheadGCN

Rovio's Developer Comp was added a day before the Steam Holiday Sale, so that is probably something that will come soonish.

and it's not like they aren't everywhere else on earth, and flight control and storm in a teacup and a variety of other light/mobile type games are on steam, so it's not like there's a reason to believe the content wouldn't be allowed.
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(02-03-2013, 07:31 PM)
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I'll Pay £50 for halo 3 on steam day fucking 1
I H8 Memes
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(02-03-2013, 07:31 PM)
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No I have other arguments as well.

MS only puts the first party games on PC that they dont sell on 360. Fable, Viva Pinata.

MS has kept the games that will sell on GFWL. Halo 1 and 2. Gears of War.

In anticipation of what will no doubt be a huge increase in players of Halo 2's multiplayer ... MS is shutting down the servers?

MS sees PC gaming just as much as competition as the do Sony and Nintendos consoles. They have even paid 3rd party companies to delay games for PC. I don't blame MS for that. It's obviously in response to the crowd that said they could just buy a PS3 and gaming PC and have all the games.
Holy Order Sol
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(02-03-2013, 07:32 PM)

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oh my god @ KoF anything on Steam

Pretty much.

Hell I'd probably even play 2001.

Well maybe not but you get my point.
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(02-03-2013, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

So, yeah, I feel pretty confident that even if Halo doesn't come to pass, there's something occurring with MS-Steam's relationship :p

People inside MS have also said that they really like Steam :P
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(02-03-2013, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes

Are we also waiting for this?

Well when people used to go poking around in the registry Valve started doing this.


Although as Stumpokapow mentioned now titles are tied to community hubs you can match the both together and hey presto.
Orayn
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(02-03-2013, 07:34 PM)
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Just FYI, we've had Halo 3 in 1080p since the game launched, just not in motion. The screenshot uploader uses some Bungie sorcery to take pseudo-bullshots, and they can look quite nice nice.

Here's one of mine from March 2008. I'm the puncher, not the punchee.
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes

MS only puts the first party games on PC that they dont sell on 360. Fable, Viva Pinata.

Except for all the XBLA stuff they've been porting, also Fable sells gangbusters but we'll ignore that.

MS has kept the games that will sell on GFWL. Halo 1 and 2. Gears of War.

Except that GFWL is being wound down, as we're seeing.

In anticipation of what will no doubt be a huge increase in players of Halo 2's multiplayer ... MS is shutting down the servers?

Admittedly I don't have an answer here. Move to a new online architecture? Releasing the game without online multiplayer? Part of the general wind-down of GFWL?

MS sees PC gaming just as much as competition as the do Sony and Nintendos consoles. They have even paid 3rd party companies to delay games for PC. I don't blame MS for that. It's obviously in response to the crowd that said they could just buy a PS3 and gaming PC and have all the games.

There are clearly times in their history where they have held this perspective. Your argument would not be out of place in 2008. Actually, in fact, your argument seems to be directly from 2008. Now does not appear to be one of those times. Whether or not this Halo stuff is real, they are actively involved in porting games that they published and pay for. Yes, after the 360 release. But they still port them. They also release stuff on iOS despite viewing iOS as a competitor to Windows Phone. Yes, after they release stuff on WP, but they still release it.
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I don't see why this stuff wouldn't come eventually. Halo 3 is probably no longer a system seller for MS since ODST, Reach and 4 are out. This way they can more money from it.

I would me more surpised if 4 and Reach were on that list.
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Halo Trilogy if it's true it's a must buy for me.
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

Admittedly I don't have an answer here. Move to a new online architecture? Releasing the game without online multiplayer? Part of the general wind-down of GFWL?

Steamworks with a hat based micro-economy;)
metareferential
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(02-03-2013, 07:37 PM)
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If they pull a Halo 2 and require Win 8 I...

I...

...am going to upgrade.
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In the case of KOF it's really more like one new KOF game and two old roms they could easily throw in there.
(no offense, I love SNK games)

The only way these aren't new releases is if they're old entries they considered at the time and then didn't pan out, like Saw 2 and Final Fantasy 7.
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(02-03-2013, 07:38 PM)
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If halo 3 looks like the screenshots and still has the online component with MLG playlist then I'll be in heaven
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Originally Posted by Orayn

Just FYI, we've had Halo 3 in 1080p since the game launched, just not in motion. The screenshot uploader uses some Bungie sorcery to take pseudo-bullshots, and they can look quite nice nice.

That's a big part of why people are excited; they know how crazy good Halo 3 looks with great IQ, and want to play it like that.
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Originally Posted by ArjanN

In the case of KOF it's really more like one new KOF game and two old roms they could easily throw in there.
(no offense, I love SNK games)

The only way these aren't new releases is if they're old entries they considered at the time and then didn't pan out, like Saw 2.

Edit: Never forget.
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Originally Posted by Orayn

Just FYI, we've had Halo 3 in 1080p since the game launched, just not in motion.

But that is only 1080p.

We are talking manly 1600p here.
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(02-03-2013, 07:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

They also release stuff on iOS despite viewing iOS as a competitor to Windows Phone. Yes, after they release stuff on WP, but they still release it.

Not enough, though. Still waiting on Crimson Dragon Side Story for iOS. :P
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(02-03-2013, 07:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dennis

But that is only 1080p.

We are talking manly 1600p here.

Or heavy downsampling.

Or 3D.

Or...FUCKING OCULUS RIFT SUPPORT.
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(02-03-2013, 07:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orayn

Just FYI, we've had Halo 3 in 1080p since the game launched, just not in motion. The screenshot uploader uses some Bungie sorcery to take pseudo-bullshots, and they can look quite nice nice.



Here's one of mine from March 2008. I'm the puncher, not the punchee.

That really does look quite good.

I don't even see much in the way of aliasing, even where you expect to see some like on the shoulder pads.

Most be a lot of sorcery going on there.

Will look solid on just about any rig running at 1080p+ and 60fps+.

Originally Posted by Detox

If halo 3 looks like the screenshots and still has the online component with MLG playlist then I'll be in heaven

Wouldn't you rather have dedicated servers running that ruleset?

I know I would.
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Superannuation found the Lococycle community page

http://steamcommunity.com/app/224040/
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Originally Posted by Grief.exe

That really does look quite good.

I don't even see much in the way of aliasing, even where you expect to see some like on the shoulder pads.

Most be a lot of sorcery going on there.

When your 360 is taking the screenshot, the game actually shows the image being slowly produced tile-by-tile. Basically, it's crazy supersampled.
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Somebody keep an eye out for Skies of Arcadia, Burning Rangers, Daytona USA (or Scud Race) and just for the heck of it, Shenmue and Yakuza. You never know, SEGA's are really liking Steam and how profitable it can be for them.
Tain
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yes yes YES

bring those TypeX games over

On the Sega front, the arcade version of Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown is a Windows game.

bring that over too.
Ezalc
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That would be pretty awesome if they were released on Steam.
NBtoaster
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Originally Posted by Dennis

But that is only 1080p.

We are talking manly 1600p here.

Halo 3's screenshot tool downsamples from 8064x4448.
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(02-03-2013, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by HTupolev

When your 360 is taking the screenshot, the game actually shows the image being slowly produced tile-by-tile. Basically, it's crazy supersampled.

It isn't just super sampled. There are LOD and lighting changes, too.
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Halo 3 on Steam would complete me as a human being.

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