[Reiko]

These rumors are accurate, to my knowledge.

Oh shit.

[Loudninja]

Both of those games take inspiration from Project Gotham Racing? Yeah, uh, ok. I know the Studio Liverpool guys have something going on, Loudninja posted something about them having a new futuristic racer (not WipEout) IP in the works, but that doesn't like that at all.

You mean ex liverpool devs?Some form a new studio called Sawfly.

And, then, the question we’re all asking. What’s happening with WipEout, and are Sawfly involved in any way? “We’re looking at a number of opportunities at the moment,” came the tactful reply, “and I would never write anything off, but you’re right to say it is not on the table at Sawfly. Our focus is really on our first title, and on our own IP. We can’t say too much about either right now, but the announcement will be coming soon on our first game.”

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/01/...and-moving-on/

[Chiaroscuro]

PGR5 at launch of Durango would make me a happy gamer, but two PGR style racers by Ex Bizzarre guys on competing consoles at launch? Shits crazy.

That would make me buy both consoles this year. Otherwise, I will stick with whatever MS will offer.

[Ding-Ding]

Right, this has split me. A new PGR is certainly very tempting and should be at the forefront of my thoughts.

Then again Ged Talbot's work backed by Evolution (loved PR and old WRC games) in an arcade style street racer, with hopefully some of GT's car models thrown in...Oh My!!!

[Reiko]

PGR was such a graphical milestone on the 360... This sequel is guaranteed to dislocate jaws!

Especially with an upgrade of dat engine.

[B.O.O.M]

Twist: You will play Visari. Quest : Kill Rico

haha actually I forgot who but I talked about it with another gaffer here and that's the idea we talked about too. A Helghan campaign with a new hero on a revenge quest to get Rico..would be GLORIOUS

[BruceLeeRoy]

Especially with an upgrade of dat engine.

No kidding. PGR blew my mind when I first saw it.

[AstroNut325]

Those racers by Evolution Studios.... day 4 (too lazy to buy games on Tuesdays dang it).

[op_ivy]

PGR for next gen has been rumored forever and seemed to me to be more recently resurfaced in the forza OT by insider BADNED here. another 5 meaning not forza, pgr on its 5th iteration, pgr at launch tradition. also, lucid games teaser and now this. it all makes sense and makes me happy.

edit: aegies too.

[i-Lo]

I never said "secret sauce." And last I checked, most of the things I've posted had turned out to be true. That said, believe me or not.

Mud plugging violence or Pierre Delmondo's vision?

[jello44]

PGR for next gen has been rumored forever and seemed to me to be more recently resurfaced in the forza OT by insider BADNED here. another 5 meaning not forza, pgr on its 5th iteration, pgr at launch tradition. also, lucid games teaser and now this. it all makes sense and makes me happy.

Yeah, although, I don't know for nextgen, but PGR5 has been rumored to have been developed by Turn10 for a long while.

[RoboPlato]

Since GG's game is mentioned in the article I'm going to post this here so it doesn't get lost in a sea of Kaz .gifs. I was just thinking and if Planetside 2 hits PS4 at launch then I bet GG's game is a new IP. It would be pointless to have two exclusive sci-fi FPS at launch, especially if Crysis 3 is also out near launch.

[Psychological Intellect]

These rumors are pretty accurate, according to my knowledge.

[The_Monk]

Is there a chance for PGR5 in the PS4 fellow GAFfers?

[RoboPlato]

Is there a chance for PGR5 in the PS4 fellow GAFfers?

No. Microsoft owns the IP.

[TheOddOne]

These rumors are pretty accurate, according to my knowledge.

Is Lucid doing the lifting on their own or are they getting help? Because I can't believe they are doing the heavy lifting.

[jello44]

Is there a chance for PGR5 in the PS4 fellow GAFfers?

I think Microsoft bought the IP from Bizarre when they were bought by Activision.

No. Microsoft owns the IP.

That's what I thought.

[phosphor112]

No kidding. PGR blew my mind when I first saw it.

Still does. The physics aren't "sim" enough to be a terrible GRID type game, but it's not arcade enough for a Burnout game, it's a perfect mix, and because of that, they don't really need 60fps... and when you have double the resources? You get beauties like PGR... that game man..

Agreed. Polyphony Digital takes too long to deliver their product. If these guys deliver a product of similar or better quality in half the time...

It sounds like Sony don't want to mix GT and another "style" of racer. Evolution is a Sony studio.

[Corto]

Battle of the euro racers! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT I hope next gen hype gives the genre a much needed boost.

[IntelliHeath]

It was very interesting, so is there any chance that we are getting any trailer for e3 along with PS4/720?

Edited: Ah, OP got banned.

[TheOddOne]

I think Microsoft bought the IP from Bizarre when they were bought by Activision.

They have owned it since the first PGR.

[Reiko]

Now the OP is banned...

[B.O.O.M]

banned? I guess a self promotion issue or something

[waypoetic]

You mean ex liverpool devs?Some form a new studio called Sawfly. http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/01/...and-moving-on/

Yes, that's what i ment :')

[Reiko]

banned? I guess a self promotion issue or something

Something to do with Bewbs.

[funkystudent]

No. Microsoft owns the IP.

Maybe Sony could get the Metropolis street racer IP from Sega.


Does MS own "kudos"?

[IntelliHeath]

banned? I guess a self promotion issue or something

Something to do with Bewbs.

I think both. I checked his history, and he have long list of self promotion with his website.

[jello44]

They have owned it since the first PGR.

Ah, OK. I thought it was just a publishing thing.

[Reiko]

Maybe Sony could get the Metropolis street racer IP from Sega. Does MS own "kudos"?

Would be hilarious. MSR is PGR with real world time of day settings.

[NoirVisage]

now i gotta give him his click

i thought that said something else..on some monitors "cl" looks too much like a "d"

[Willy Wanka]

I have to say that, outside of F1 games, I'm not really into sim car racers but I always did enjoy the arcade style gameplay of the PGR games. I'd definitely buy a new one whenever I get around to buying a Durango but they better keep bikes in.

[jbug617]

Maybe Sony could get the Metropolis street racer IP from Sega. Does MS own "kudos"?

I think they patented the "kudos" system

[shinnn]

No Forza 5?

leaving...

PGR5 ftw

[Ding-Ding]

Maybe Sony could get the Metropolis street racer IP from Sega. Does MS own "kudos"?

The last I heard the kudos system was retained by Bizarre as a throwback from their MSR days.

When I looked I couldn't find any further info. So its unknown if its activisions property or someone senior in BC that has it (like Chudley or a Lucid bod)

Either way, MS could of done a deal or just come at it from a different angle

[Chiaroscuro]

Does MS own "kudos"?

yes, they actually own it. Along with PGR and several related words.

[abadguy]

Just glad to see them keeping the tradition of Xbox consoles launching with a PGR game intact. PGR3 still looks great and 4 is probably one of the best ( if not the best) looking racers of this gen, IMO.

[CrunchinJelly]

Kudos patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,763,273

[shinobi602]

Banned? Goddamn.

[velociraptor]

Pertinent info: - ex Bizarre employees join Evolution - Evolution working on PS4 racer, to be shown Feb 20 - Lucid Games working on new PGR for next Xbox, aiming for launch

PGR vs PGR?

I like it.

[Zeal]

Banned? Goddamn.

Shit's getting real with the leaks. itshappening.gif

[RoboPlato]

Shit's getting real with the leaks. itshappening.gif

It was just because of self-promotion.

[MuseManMike]

So, I can infer the PGR stuff from the partial quotes -- but what was the Sony rumor?

A GT spin-off that isn't a spin-off?

[Zeal]

It was just because of self-promotion.

[Reiko]

PGR vs PGR? I like it.

Now listen to this track from MSR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYaOII2ZZVo

[nib95]

I think some of you will be pleased :)

[Reiko]

I think some of you will be pleased :)

Did you PM BruceLeeRoy?

[velociraptor]

I would love to see a return to form for Midtown Madness. I loved playing Midtown Madness on Xbox. The 8 player level in paris was cool. Or maybe the Halo Kart. That could be fun... with crazy space levels, playable characters like Grunt and Baby Sarge.

I remember spending hours and hours on Midtown Madness 2 on PC. What a game that was.

[Strange in Stereo]

I was hoping for a new MotorStorm but it seems we're getting something so much better.

Can't wait.

Guess I'll have to wait for WRC4/Dirt 4 for my off-road racing fix.

[nib95]

Did you PM BruceLeeRoy?

No. I don't know if he knows the same info as me, but my source is not him.

[Pistolero]

I so long for a comment on the graphics and physics!