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RoboPlato
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(02-06-2013, 01:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by MuseManMike

So, I can infer the PGR stuff from the partial quotes -- but what was the Sony rumor?

A GT spin-off that isn't a spin-off?

Lead PGR designer as well as several other team members are at Evolution and working a new racing IP for PS4 launch that'll be shown on the 20th. Lots of Liverpool people working on it as well.
funkystudent
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(02-06-2013, 01:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by CrunchinJelly

Kudos patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,763,273

Well I think I threw up a little.


Still I am sure they can get around it. Doesnt MS also own a patent for Driving line and people including GT use that all the time.


Kudos is very early 00's sounding anyway. I bet they can come up with something equally dumb sounding to call there new points system.
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SolidSnakex
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(02-06-2013, 01:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by MuseManMike

So, I can infer the PGR stuff from the partial quotes -- but what was the Sony rumor?

A GT spin-off that isn't a spin-off?

Evolution is working on a PGR-style game for the PS4. They wanted to use the GT brand for it similar to Horizon, but Polyphony shot it down. They're apparently referring to it as the biggest racer to come out of Europe in a decade. And Ged Talbot (one of the lead designers on the PGR series) is leading up the project.
RoboPlato
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(02-06-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by CrunchinJelly

Kudos patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,763,273

Patenting getting points in a video game is very, very sad.
Reiko
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(02-06-2013, 01:52 AM)

Originally Posted by nib95

No. I don't know if he knows the same info as me, but my source is not him.


Oh.
i-Lo
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(02-06-2013, 01:53 AM)
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Does anyone have some quality pictures of the target render trailer of Motorstorm from E3 2005? I wonder if another Motorstorm (this time perhaps getting very close to that render) game is heading our way...
Leflus
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(02-06-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Project Gotham Racing is the best kind of racing. I'd absolutely be down for PGR5 as a launch game for the Durango.
MuseManMike
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(02-06-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato

Lead PGR designer as well as several other team members are at Evolution and working a new racing IP for PS4 launch that'll be shown on the 20th. Lots of Liverpool people working on it as well.

Originally Posted by SolidSnakex

Evolution is working on a PGR-style game for the PS4. They wanted to use the GT brand for it similar to Horizon, but Polyphony shot it down. They're apparently referring to it as the biggest racer to come out of Europe in a decade. And Ged Talbot (one of the lead designers on the PGR series) is leading up the project.

Excellent. If both games are so similar in nature -- we'll have an immediate metric*** by which to judge the implications of hardware decisions on 1st generation games. I could see Polyphony not wanting to rent out the name initially, but if the game delivers, it's a win-win for it to adopt the GT brand.

Thanks for the responses.
Loudninja
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(02-06-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakex

Evolution is working on a PGR-style game for the PS4. They wanted to use the GT brand for it similar to Horizon, but Polyphony shot it down. They're apparently referring to it as the biggest racer to come out of Europe in a decade. And Ged Talbot (one of the lead designers on the PGR series) is leading up the project.

Sounds great.
jett
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(02-06-2013, 01:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakex

Evolution is working on a PGR-style game for the PS4. They wanted to use the GT brand for it similar to Horizon, but Polyphony shot it down. They're apparently referring to it as the biggest racer to come out of Europe in a decade. And Ged Talbot (one of the lead designers on the PGR series) is leading up the project.

Dicks.
Big Takeover
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(02-06-2013, 01:56 AM)
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I hope those couple dozen Lucid employees took the special sauce with them before they locked the doors on Bizarre. I would not want to follow in those steps just winging it. TOP MEN, or gtfo.
velociraptor
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(02-06-2013, 01:57 AM)
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Missed opportunity by Sony here. The GT brand could really have helped this game. But then again, Gran Turismo is a 'sim game', so I can understand why PD may have said no. Or maybe PD are simply elitists? Lol.
Flunkie
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(02-06-2013, 01:58 AM)

Originally Posted by jett

Dicks.

More like stupid. Would had sold a ton more with the GT name on it.
nib95
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(02-06-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Lol at PM's, all I'll say is that GAF is pretty much on point. Good work!
RoboPlato
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(02-06-2013, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

Dicks.

I'm really surprised Sony didn't tell Polyphony to shut up when they protested. I'm sure they want to launch with a GT title, even if it isn't GT6.
BruceLeeRoy
(02-06-2013, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by nib95

I think some of you will be pleased :)

Indeed :) I knew this is what you were talking about earlier.

Originally Posted by nib95

No. I don't know if he knows the same info as me, but my source is not him.

Different sources.
Reiko
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(02-06-2013, 01:59 AM)

Originally Posted by funkystudent

Well I think I threw up a little.


Still I am sure they can get around it. Doesnt MS also own a patent for Driving line and people including GT use that all the time.


Kudos is very early 00's sounding anyway. I bet they can come up with something equally dumb sounding to call there new points system.

There's a "kudos system" in Forza Horizon. It just doesn't say so.

So if that exists, it can exists for that new game.
nib95
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(02-06-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato

I'm really surprised Sony didn't tell Polyphony to shut up when they protested. I'm sure they want to launch with a GT title, even if it isn't GT6.

Let them work on the next GT, and have faith in the new studio.


Originally Posted by BruceLeeRoy

Indeed :) I knew this is what you were talking about earlier.

Yeap! Had a feeling you might know already lol. You seem to have good connections!
malyce
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(02-06-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Keep Sim and Arcade separated please. Don't want a GT:Grid/Horizon/Shift. Thank you.

A next gen Enthusia would be nice though, that game was way ahead of its time.
jett
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(02-06-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Flunkie

More like stupid. Would had sold a ton more with the GT name on it.

Pretty dumb of Sony to allow PD take the shot. And Kaz is just an asshole. Evolution/Ex-Liverpool/Ex-Bizarre needs all the help they can get at this point
Agent Ironside
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(02-06-2013, 02:00 AM)
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If Sony doesn't want something too similar to GT, Evolution should do something like the ex Bizarre project. Real cars, but enough crazy witchcraft to make it different.


darkside31337
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(02-06-2013, 02:00 AM)
Its utterly mind boggling how they can't use the Gran Turismo name.
AgentChris
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(02-06-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Gran Turismo 6 is probably coming out 6 months or so after Evolution's racer. No need to dilute the GT brand.
velociraptor
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(02-06-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

Pretty dumb of Sony to allow PD take the shot. And Kaz is just an asshole. Evolution/Ex-Liverpool/Ex-Bizarre needs all the help they can get at this point

Yep.

If they did take on the GT brand name, what could the game be called? Gran Turismo: Street Racing? Lol.
phosphor112
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(02-06-2013, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Agent Ironside

If Sony doesn't want something too similar to GT, Evolution should do something like the ex Bizarre project. Real cars, but enough crazy witchcraft to make it different.


That video looked awesome. Sort of like Rush or Trackmania.
MuseManMike
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(02-06-2013, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by AgentChris

Gran Turismo 6 is probably coming out 6 months or so after Evolution's racer. No need to dilute the GT brand.

Polyphony already did that this gen.
Lagspike_exe
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(02-06-2013, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by velociraptor

Yep.

If they did take on the GT brand name, what could the game be called? Gran Turismo: Street Racing? Lol.

Gran Turismo: Underground.
Die Squirrel Die
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(02-06-2013, 02:04 AM)

Originally Posted by AgentChris

Gran Turismo 6 is probably coming out 6 months or so after Evolution's racer. [b]No need to dilute the GT brand[b/].

That's probably at the root of it. As I understand it the GT name carries considerable cache outside of the traditional gamer. While from a game point of view a GT spinoff may make perfect sense, if a large part of your audience is people who don't follow gaming, brand dilution could be a bigger problem.
jett
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(02-06-2013, 02:04 AM)
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Gran Turismo: You won't find piece of shit PS2 car models here.
Niks
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(02-06-2013, 02:06 AM)
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How did Forza Horizon do compared to Forza 4?
Did the name helped the game?
RoboPlato
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(02-06-2013, 02:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

Gran Turismo: You won't find piece of shit PS2 car models here.

This phrase should just be how they announce GT6. Come out, say that, and leave without any other details.
Loudninja
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(02-06-2013, 02:07 AM)
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If its not a sim why use the name?

Some of you are weird.
Massa
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(02-06-2013, 02:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Flunkie

More like stupid. Would had sold a ton more with the GT name on it.

IMO stupid would be putting the GT name in a game that isn't GT.
Chiaroscuro
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(02-06-2013, 02:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by nib95

I think some of you will be pleased :)

Some of us like only part of the rumour is true (like one of the games is really in development)?
EloquentM
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(02-06-2013, 02:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto

I hadn't thought about this one in a long while.

Last time I remember talking about it was on a podcast a while back and I got a lot of "Nah, seems unlikely" comments back.

But yeah, there was definitely second-hand talk from people who own rare cars saying Microsoft approached them for that thing.

Lol I honestly don't know why people doubt you. I've hardly ever seen you be wrong in regards to what to keep an eye out for. You're one of the more subtle posters of this caliber though.
Agent Ironside
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(02-06-2013, 02:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by phosphor112

That video looked awesome. Sort of like Rush or Trackmania.

Yeah I dig Trackmania and Rush needs to make a come back.
SneakyStephan
(02-06-2013, 02:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Massa

IMO stupid would be putting the GT name in a game that isn't GT.

Gamers know that, arm chair analysts and first year business degree minors don't ;)
GarthVaderUK
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(02-06-2013, 02:11 AM)
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Awesome news if true.
mr_nothin
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(02-06-2013, 02:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Agent Ironside

If Sony doesn't want something too similar to GT, Evolution should do something like the ex Bizarre project. Real cars, but enough crazy witchcraft to make it different.


It's called Splitscreen
I'd rather have RUSH clone anyways
phosphor112
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(02-06-2013, 02:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Niks

How did Forza Horizon do compared to Forza 4?
Did the name helped the game?

It flopped pretty hard. I remember it went down to 20 bucks a couple months after release. It was on sale, but still.
jello44
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(02-06-2013, 02:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by nib95

I think some of you will be pleased :)

ARGGGHHHH

Don't tease me got dammit! :P

Originally Posted by phosphor112

It flopped pretty hard. I remember it went down to 20 bucks a couple months after release. It was on sale, but still.

Shame because it was the best racing game of last year.
Baconsammy
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(02-06-2013, 02:14 AM)

Originally Posted by phosphor112

It flopped pretty hard. I remember it went down to 20 bucks a couple months after release. It was on sale, but still.

Using a Black Friday sale as proof of a price drop? Good lord. It went back to 60 dollars, where it still is, after the sale was over. They also sold Dragon's Dogma for 14.99 during the sale. Pretty sure that wasn't a price drop either.
H_Prestige
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(02-06-2013, 02:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Agent Ironside

If Sony doesn't want something too similar to GT, Evolution should do something like the ex Bizarre project. Real cars, but enough crazy witchcraft to make it different.


If the new ps4 racer doesn't look this good, I'm going to be disappointed.
velociraptor
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(02-06-2013, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by phosphor112

It flopped pretty hard. I remember it went down to 20 bucks a couple months after release. It was on sale, but still.

According to ********, it sold 1.2 million worldwide. Not sure how accurate this website is.

edit: I guess not accurate at all since it appears to be a banned site, lol.
Loudninja
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(02-06-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by velociraptor

According to ********, it sold 1.2 million worldwide. Not sure how accurate this website is.

Accurate is a word that should never be use to describe that site.

That site is banned here btw.
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(02-06-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by velociraptor

According to ********, it sold 1.2 million worldwide. Not sure how accurate this website is.

You just found out.
James Sawyer Ford
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(02-06-2013, 02:22 AM)
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Was OP banned for posting legit leaks (ala sweetvar?)

Did he mention anything about Guerilla Games and their new IP?
moe6142
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(02-06-2013, 02:22 AM)

Originally Posted by phosphor112

It flopped pretty hard. I remember it went down to 20 bucks a couple months after release. It was on sale, but still.

for a spin off made by another company,it did pretty well.
it sold over a mill. if you wanna talk about a flop that would be PSABR
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jbug617
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(02-06-2013, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by nib95

I think some of you will be pleased :)

some? Are you saying some of this is incorrect?
MuseManMike
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(02-06-2013, 02:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by James Sawyer Ford

Was OP banned for posting legit leaks (ala sweetvar?)

Did he mention anything about Guerilla Games and their new IP?

He got banned for self-promotion. And, no, no mention of GG's new IP.

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