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Steve Youngblood · Feb 7, 2013

Calamari41 said:
If this isn't proof that Nintendo needs to realize that they're on their own, nothing is. Think about it. We just went through the second hardware launch where Nintendo stepped back in order to let 3rd parties shine. What did we get? A game literally called "Zombie." Nobody who doesn't read gaming forums is going to look at a shelf of games and pick the one that says "Zombie" on the cover. No matter how it is spelled or if it has a "U" next to it.

Start buying up and bolstering those small 3rd party studios, Nintendo. It's the only way to make sure you get a solid release per month on your system. You can't count on jack shit from 3rd parties.

I think you're being a little presumptuous in assuming that lack of killer first-party software was a good indication of Nintendo stepping back to let third party software shine. The much more likely possibility is that they simply didn't have the software ready to go themselves.

Raven77 · Feb 7, 2013

Wait, LESS exclusives???

WTF, their are like 2-3 worthwhile exclusives PER SYSTEM each year.

How can there possibly be less...

Calamari41 · Feb 7, 2013

You're probably right, but we at least know that this was their philosophy during the 3DS launch. My point still stands though: the best effort they got from 3rd parties was a generic zombie game that never had a chance. For the record I enjoyed ZombiU, I'm just talking about its marketability and sales potential. As in, it never had any.

snowdog1971 · Feb 7, 2013

Gahiggidy said:
RE: Rayman

This decision will also ensure that the any further Gamepad ideas are nixed. Wouldn't be surprised if they evn cut stuff out that can't be easily modified for traditional/boring controllers.

Fuck.

Quick question, is Michel Ancel on contract with Ubisoft?

Yup, I said as much myself above.

A shame really because it was a 2D platformer with unique gameplay elements and now will be nothing but a bog standard 2D platformer.

Glorified G · Feb 7, 2013

snowdog1971 said:
Yup, I said as much myself above.

A shame really because it was a 2D platformer with unique gameplay elements and now will be nothing but a bog standard 2D platformer.

We're you really looking forward to cutting rope and pulling levers? That will probably still be there anyway.

gamergirly · Feb 7, 2013

Raven77 said:
Wait, LESS exclusives???

WTF, their are like 2-3 worthwhile exclusives PER SYSTEM each year.

How can there possibly be less...

Because of the lost sales, cost of being one console exclusive, and potential of success as a multiplatform title. Tho that really hasn't panned out well if the game didn't start as a multiplatform title

Meelow · Feb 7, 2013

Calamari41 said:
You're probably right, but we at least know that this was their philosophy during the 3DS launch. My point still stands though: the best effort they got from 3rd parties was a generic zombie game that never had a chance. For the record I enjoyed ZombiU, I'm just talking about its marketability and sales potential. As in, it never had any.

I wouldn't really call Zombi U "generic" in my opinion...

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...bout_beginnings_reactions_and_survival_horror

And Ubisoft said they are "pleased with the initial sales, among the best selling launch titles on Wii U"

Forsaken82 · Feb 7, 2013

Raist said:
Or most likely, price and/or marketing.

I would actually laugh if they somehow release a USB based Hardware expansion. Something like this would likely also occur alongside a price cut (around the price of said expansion) and a likely holiday packed in sale.

Calamari41 · Feb 7, 2013

Meelow said:
I wouldn't really call Zombi U "generic" in my opinion...

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...bout_beginnings_reactions_and_survival_horror

And Ubisoft said they are "pleased with the initial sales, among the best selling launch titles on Wii U"

Like I said, I enjoyed ZombiU and I don't think it is generic. I was speaking strictly to its marketing and sales potential. I certainly never saw an ad for it in Los Angeles. The only exposure the non-enthusiast public had to the game was a picture of a zombie and the word "ZombiU."

I thought that Ubi had gone on to be disappointed in ZombiU's sales. They didn't even mention it in their investors meeting, right?

Hero of Legend · Feb 7, 2013

As said, my view is that now, if the game's on PS360, a Wii U version is almost assured, if it's on PS4/720 only, it all depends.

Bizarrely, Activision is the one to count on, after porting almost all COD games to Wii (thanks to Treyarch!), even when the series goes PS4/720, we'll see them on Wii U, perhaps when that happens devs will see something positive in that.

Hopefully the rumors of Gearbox making a new multi-platform shooter are true and are indeed bringing UE4 to Wii U, that could shut the naysayers and attract support.

Forsaken82 said:
I would actually laugh if they somehow release a USB based Hardware expansion. Something like this would likely also occur alongside a price cut (around the price of said expansion) and a likely holiday packed in sale.

I actually suggested the USB idea earlier. XD

Pachterballs · Feb 7, 2013

What a cluster fuck.

Huff · Feb 7, 2013

Hero of Legend said:
As said, my view is that now, if the game's on PS360, a Wii U version is almost assured, if it's on PS4/720 only, it all depends.

Bizarrely, Activision is the one to count on, after porting almost all COD games to Wii (thanks to Treyarch!), even when the series goes PS4/720, we'll see them on Wii U, perhaps when that happens devs will see something positive in that.

XD

Wait what? Games so far are more likely not to go to wiiU than go as of what we know

Unless you are a believer in the mythical Nintendo NDA

Hero of Legend · Feb 7, 2013

Huff said:
Wait what? Games so far are more likely not to go to wiiU than go as of what we know

Unless you are a believer in the mythical Nintendo NDA

The first part was in regards to Ubisoft as they've been pretty good so far.

shinra-bansho · Feb 7, 2013

This:
"which makes fantastic use of what the machine can do"
In the same interview as this:
"the possibilities of next-generation PCs and the next-generation of consoles will bring"

Doesn't bode well.

No Watch_Dogs then?

Huff · Feb 7, 2013

Hero of Legend said:
The first part was in regards to Ubisoft as they've been pretty good so far.

What games does ubisoft have coming out in 2013?

Hero of Legend · Feb 7, 2013

Huff said:
What games does ubisoft have coming out in 2013?

Well Splinter Cell: Blacklist is one, highly suspected to be Wii U-bound due to numerous retail leaks.

And of course Rayman Legends.

Only other one official is Shootmania but that's a PC game.

The next AC could also show up as AC3 did.

The rest of the line-up will obviously come at E3.

Steve Youngblood · Feb 8, 2013

Hero of Legend said:
Well Splinter Cell: Blacklist is one, highly suspected to be Wii U-bound due to numerous retail leaks.

I hope these aren't the same leaks that had Tomb Raider as all but confirmed.

Currygan · Feb 8, 2013

since noone knows what happens behind closed doors, it's pretty hard to make an assumption about betrayals and bad behaviour. In RL's case, Nintendo could have been aware of this since the beginning, for all we know

Steve Youngblood · Feb 8, 2013

Currygan said:
since noone knows what happens behind closed doors, it's pretty hard to make an assumption about betrayals and bad behaviour. In RL's case, Nintendo could have been aware of this since the beginning, for all we know

What are you defining as "the beginning"? Because I highly doubt they knew about it before they made it their demo game at launch kiosks.

Currygan · Feb 8, 2013

Steve Youngblood said:
What are you defining as "the beginning"? Because I highly doubt they knew about it before they made it their demo game at launch kiosks.

why not? Perhaps their deal had a clause saying game woulda been labeled as a WiiU exclusive for marketing purposes, with its effectiveness ending today

or am i being too cynical?

Steve Youngblood · Feb 8, 2013

Currygan said:
why not? Perhaps their deal had a clause saying game woulda been labeled as a WiiU exclusive for marketing purposes, with its effectiveness ending today

or am i being too cynical?

I don't know if "cynical" is the right adjective here. I lean more toward "ridiculous," as the assumption doesn't seem grounded in reality at all. Clearly, Nintendo was banking on this as an exclusive at some point in recent history. To suggest otherwise is just silly.

Currygan · Feb 8, 2013

Steve Youngblood said:
I don't know if "cynical" is the right adjective here. I lean more toward "ridiculous," as the assumption doesn't seem grounded in reality at all. Clearly, Nintendo was banking on this as an exclusive at some point in recent history. To suggest otherwise is just silly.

ah well, no point arguing any further then

Hattori · Feb 8, 2013

Baconsammy said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the 360/PS3 versions disappear completely and the game turn out to be a next gen title all along.

If they think I would buy this title for my brand new PS4, they are bonkers

3rdDimension · Feb 8, 2013

Holy Order Sol said:
Imagine Supportz

You win!

watershed · Feb 8, 2013

Its starting to feel like the Wii U is gonna be the Wii situation with 3rd parties all over again. And I stil remember Iwata saying that because the Wii U is hd that wouldn't happen this time.

RyanReedyMusic · Feb 8, 2013

Hmmmm

Hattori · Feb 8, 2013

watershed said:
Its starting to feel like the Wii U is gonna be the Wii situation with 3rd parties all over again. And I stil remember Iwata saying that because the Wii U is hd that wouldn't happen this time.

it's not HD enough...

prag16 · Feb 8, 2013

cyberheater said:
WiiU might receive a few multiplatform current games.

And yes. I've been saying for months. There is near to zero chance that WiiU will get next gen downports.

Saying it for months with no basis, sure.

PC games at performance levels requiring higher specs than PS4/720 have minimum requirements in many cases below Wii U.

There will be downports. Maybe not as many as many of us would like, but they will exist. No technical reason why they can't. No business reason? In some cases. But saying "near to zero" chance with such certainty is folly, and has no substantive basis.

DragonSworne · Feb 8, 2013

When can we expect Ubisoft to announce more games for Wii U?

At E3?

donny2112 · Feb 8, 2013

DragonSworne said:
When can we expect Ubisoft to announce more games for Wii U?

At E3?

At this point, do you want Ubisoft to announce more gamezs for Wii U?

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