except if its portable as he could argue that portability is an dramatic improvement (kinda happened with 3 on the gameboy too right?)
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Dragon Quest X is not meeting expectations
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except if its portable as he could argue that portability is an dramatic improvement (kinda happened with 3 on the gameboy too right?)
Well, if they follow the "pattern", technically a DQ8 remake would accompany DQ11.
... if there will be a DQ11. I'm not sure how much more they can get out of Sugiyama. And should any of the Big 3 not contribute, I think DQ is done.
I don't see that happening.
Zoramon089
Banned
Well hope you're planning on buying a WiiU since that's the only other console it'll be released on for the foreseeable future
electroplankton
Banned
Wasn't port-begging banned or something?
The Mana Legend
Banned
The "online crap" made DQIX, by FAR, the most fun and replayable DQ game.
The Mana Legend
Banned
The potential of lifelong sales and members would have been much higher in the Wii U than the Wii, which is all but dead in Japan.
More people would be playing, and buying, in the long term on the Wii U than the Wii.
Oh, I see. That makes sense. The others saw a fair overhaul of graphics. What about the port of 3 to the SNES? It didn't seem like a huge improvement.
The Bookerman
Member
out of touch?
When they started developping the game, MMO's were still making lots of money. I doubt they were out of touch then.
H_Prestige
Banned
Not even released as a ps2 classic? That seems incredibly dumb.
No, 3 is a handheld port of DQ3's remake on SFC, not of the original version of DQ3. 3 on GBC is equivalent to DQ4 on DS.
Uhh... the SNES version of DQ3 is dramatically upgraded, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Zoramon089
Banned
Lol, I'm convinced mods are ok with it now since the Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 thread...
Yes. And if you follow the pattern, you'll find that it's the remakes that get ported, not the original versions.
Risk Breaker
Member
10 years late to the MMO bandwagon, SE.
Not to me it wasn't. Boring story, empty characters, repetitive and tedious quests, and the even more tedious grottos. After the epic DQ VIII, I expected so much more from my favorite VG series.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
You're right. No idea how I forgot that.
This was said in the other thread too. But did Wada really claim that they recouped development cost already?
Because my interpretation is only that they put the cost of developing the game in this year's report. And that has nothing to do with how much money they got from the game this year.
Its seriously unfuckingbelievable.
I get depressed thinking about how shitty SE has been this gen.
Paracelsus
Member
Maybe some people treated it as a wannabe single player game, got their average playtime from it and bailed out.
Only that DQX did not tank.
like with any MMORPG. the game also has a free to play hour (i think three hours per day)
Hehe, glad I'm not alone here. I also forgot to mention how they took out key elements that previously made it a great RPG series. Monster recruiting, casinos and dumbing down the small medal quest. And let's not forget the horrible renaming of Dharma Temple to the dumb Alltrades Abbey.
dragonflys545
Member
Why make it an MMO anyway...
I played DQIX solo and had a lot of fun. I actually don't mind being able to create my whole party. I had like 200+ hours in the game.
According to the article DQX is not meeting "sales expectations."
Either way its irrelevant to the overall issue of Square Enix being a shell of their former selves, and their last two MMORPGs in the two biggest franchises being commercial flops.
The fans don't want MMO DQ or FF. Hopefully this teaches Square a lesson but I doubt it.
The new mainline Dragon Quest has always and will always be released for the best selling platform (NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, DS, Wii). Lol @ Wii U getting a non-port non-MMO mainline release. Wii probably went through a much quicker death than Square Enix had anticipated when they decided to do it for Wii and Wii U is seemingly not doing very well, so they just bet on the wrong horses (they probably thought Wii would still be healthy enough for a year or two more and Wii U would be successful enough to replace Wii after that).
Also, DQX's development started long before XIV's release, so they couldn't really take its problems into consideration when deciding what they were going to do with DQX.
Pretty much this. First thought I had when they announced it.
H_Prestige
Banned
All that's left now is to make the KH MMO and Wada's objective will be complete.
Their expectations where really high. DQX is not a commercial flop.
The game sold 600k and has 400k subscribers
FF XI was the most succesful FF game ever with 600k subscribers.
if you translate this
同社は決算発表で昨年８月サービスを開始したオンラインＲＰＧゲーム「ドラゴンクエストＸ 目覚めし五つの種族オンライン」の運営は、「堅調に進捗している」とコメントしているが、オンラインシステムの運営負担がのしかかるうえ、期待されたほどの大ヒ ットにはつながっていない。
the comment SE made was
「堅調に進捗している」
It means the game is progressing steadily.
the not meeting expectation part is a commentary from MSN.
Maybe so, but if it were a single player focused game like DQ8 it would've been much more commercially successful and development costs most likely would've been far less.
No not really. See farnham's post. 400k subs is a bucket load of cash every month.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Here's hoping releasing it in the West on Wii U is still a viable option. Wonder if they'd keep the subscription fee if it does come over?
Freezasaurus
Member
Right. But not everyone feels that way. I don't know why they would go the MMO route with a franchise that has always traditionally been single player. If that's what they wanted to do, they should have just cooked up an original title.
Is that really true or did they just go to the PS1 because of the disk space and the PS2 because it was the PS2? I'm expecting DQXI to go to the 3DS and DQXII will probably end up on either the 3DS successor or one of the consoles if they decide to go that route.
InsaneZero
Member
"I expect to be paid a million dollars every year, but I'm currently getting only a 100k"
Not meeting expectations doesn't mean that your goal was a complete failure, it just means that you aimed too high.
Rajack
Member
Obviously because EA and Bioware don't know how to capitalize on potential in an MMO.
Samurai_Heart
Member
So any chance of this game releasing outside Japan?
But in all honesty might flounder unless they made it Free to Play =/
But in all honesty might flounder unless they made it Free to Play =/
SolsticeZero
Banned
I played the old NES ones before getting back into it with 8 on the PS2.
Sales aren't the problem, it's probably more to do with Wii being completely dead than them being hugely disappointed with the sales.
Either way its irrelevant to the overall issue of Square Enix being a shell of their former selves,[/quote]No they aren't. They've still released many of the best JRPGs of recent years.
DQX is all but a commercial flop. It's an MMO released in a single small market that has still managed to sell several hundred thousand of copies. They haven't even made it worldwide yet. They could still get a lot out of it by not only a worldwide release, but perhaps porting it to PC & other platforms (in addition to Wii U)
FFXI proves otherwise. XIV didn't prove people don't want MMOs, it was just shit in its v1.0 state and proved people can't be bothered to pay for shit. 2.0 is what will "prove" anything, once it's released.
H_Prestige
Banned
They go wherever they will get the most money.
DQ is not a big deal outside of Japan. A DQ MMO even less so. I'd be surprised if it gets localized.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Maybe they shouldn't pretend MMO spin-off's are mainline series entries.
lwilliams3
Member
My impression is that they thought that DQX will more than make up for shortcomings of the other games in this fiscal year.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
"Big deal" is relative. Dragon Quest's a million seller overseas, which makes it bigger than pretty much every JRPG at this point that isn't Final Fantasy, Pokémon or starring Mario. Maybe Dark Souls too, though I'm not sure if that even broke a million in the west.
Also, prepare to be surprised.
