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(02-12-2013, 02:17 AM)

Originally Posted by LycanXIII

Based off the leaked contract, it's timed exclusive for the Xbox. But that might have changed since then.

that contract was released several years ago, I wouldn't be surprised if it's going to be launching on 4 platforms.
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(02-12-2013, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

WHITE DOTS ON A BLACK SCREEN!!!

We've come full circle!
Hato-kun
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(02-12-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by BeekleMatter

Did anybody mention that the page is called alphalupi.bungie.net

Alpha Lupi is a star in the Lupus constellation.

Not sure if that has jack squat to do with it.

Probably where it takes place? Or maybe where enemies or whatever come from in the game.
RoKKeR
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(02-12-2013, 02:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hato-kun

Probably where it takes place? Or maybe where enemies or whatever come from in the game.

Leaked documents suggest the game takes place on Earth. Perhaps it's where the Traveller came from?
MrGreencastle
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(02-12-2013, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoKKeR

Better image:



Now that I look at it, the black marks/gouges on the ship could likely be black spaces in the image. Does anybody see a correlation?

There are circular patterns etched on the Traveller, same with the distorted left image. Not sure if they're related, but it did refer to uv mapping didn't it?
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(02-12-2013, 02:20 AM)
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I don't know what this is leading up to... but... HYPE
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Originally Posted by les papillons sexuels

that contract was released several years ago, I wouldn't be surprised if it's going to be launching on 4 platforms.

If by "released several years ago" you mean less than a year, yes. It was signed in April 2010, so yes, things could have changed, but that's just going by what we know.
Hato-kun
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(02-12-2013, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoKKeR

Leaked documents suggest the game takes place on Earth. Perhaps it's where the Traveller came from?

I'm assuming the Traveller is an enemy ship? Or something? I've read nothing about the story of this game unfortunately.
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(02-12-2013, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by BeekleMatter

Did anybody mention that the page is called alphalupi.bungie.net

Alpha Lupi is a star in the Lupus constellation.

Not sure if that has jack squat to do with it.

Which brings me to this guy on Bungie.net
RoKKeR
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(02-12-2013, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hato-kun

I'm assuming the Traveller is an enemy ship? Or something? I've read nothing about the story of this game unfortunately.

It's the giant orb you see in the images on the last page that mysteriously appears above the 'Last City', which is Earth's aptly named large city. It's an alien ship and (I believe) is a threat to mankind.
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(02-12-2013, 02:23 AM)
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I would guess, given the name of the page is that. And in our universe it's a star what we are decoding is a message from that star. With each user acting as a node, decoding the message.
Hato-kun
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(02-12-2013, 02:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by everyday math

Which brings me to this guy on Bungie.net

"Idea for the geomask audio, why don't we take EACH image and overlay the audio ontop of eachother? Maybe invert and cancel out some audio? Could make a message."

This could work? I reversed and stretched the first bit of audio and it sounded like broken speech, but it was way too distorted.


Originally Posted by RoKKeR

It's the giant orb you see in the images on the last page that mysteriously appears above the 'Last City', which is Earth's aptly named large city. It's an alien ship and (I believe) is a threat to mankind.

Okay, so the Traveller most likely came from Alpha Lupi. Cool.
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(02-12-2013, 02:24 AM)
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Awwww yeahhhhh
BeekleMatter
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(02-12-2013, 02:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by everyday math

Which brings me to this guy on Bungie.net

Well that came full circle pretty nicely.
7he Talon
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(02-12-2013, 02:25 AM)
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Awesome! It begins!
Cyborg771
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(02-12-2013, 02:25 AM)
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Where exactly did the geomask audio file come from? Other than the reply to that guy on b.net I haven't seen a source.
shinobi602
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(02-12-2013, 02:27 AM)
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My hype, it cannot be contained!
ThatsMytrunks
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(02-12-2013, 02:27 AM)
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Looks like the image updates every thirty seconds. I've changed the downloader to reflect that.

If nothing else, in seven days, I'll have a hell of a blurry, cool thing to look at.
Hato-kun
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(02-12-2013, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cyborg771

Where exactly did the geomask audio file come from? Other than the reply to that guy on b.net I haven't seen a source.

Apparently Audacity lets you read certain files and turn them into audio files? At least that's what I saw in that Bungie thread.
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(02-12-2013, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by les papillons sexuels

that contract was released several years ago, I wouldn't be surprised if it's going to be launching on 4 platforms.

The contract got released in May of 2012....
RoKKeR
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(02-12-2013, 02:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cyborg771

Where exactly did the geomask audio file come from? Other than the reply to that guy on b.net I haven't seen a source.

Yeah, audacity allows you to import raw data, I just used the geomask image as the raw data and slowed it down quite a bit.

.
les papillons sexuels
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(02-12-2013, 02:29 AM)

Originally Posted by Bsigg12

The contract got released in May of 2012....

that particulay contract was written while bungie was still working on reach. Things have changed, i'm sure.

And that particular statement sounds more like a caveat added if they didn't have the resources to produce for the ps3, since they had just recently left ms.
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ncsuDuncan
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(02-12-2013, 02:30 AM)
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Everyone activate your nodes at 10:00pm EST. (30 minutes from this post.)

Save the two pics generated and post them here: http://misriahsolutions.com/arg/

(wwm0nkey, can you add this to the OP?)
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SolidSnakex
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(02-12-2013, 02:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by les papillons sexuels

that particulay contract was written while bungie was still working on reach. Things have changed, i'm sure.

A potential indication of that change is that there was a leaked image that had a PS3 and 360 logo on it. That wouldn't happen if the timed exclusivity were still in effect.
ThatsMytrunks
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(02-12-2013, 02:31 AM)
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The last 4.5 minutes
MrGreencastle
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(02-12-2013, 02:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by ncsuDuncan

Everyone activate your nodes at 10:00pm EST. (30 minutes from this post.)

Save the two pics generated and post them here: http://misriahsolutions.com/arg/

(wwm0nkey, can you add this to the OP?)

I was just waiting for you to show up, lol.

Good shit.
RoKKeR
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(02-12-2013, 02:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThatsMytrunks

The last 4.5 minutes

This is amazing. Confusing and helpless, but amazing nonetheless.
outunderthestars
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(02-12-2013, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoKKeR

It's the giant orb you see in the images on the last page that mysteriously appears above the 'Last City', which is Earth's aptly named large city. It's an alien ship and (I believe) is a threat to mankind.

Close but a little off. Details behind spoiler tag

Regarding the storyline, the document says "Our story begins seven hundred years from now in the Last City on Earth, in a Solar System littered with the ruins of man's Golden Age. A massive, mysterious alien ship hangs overhead like a second Moon. No one knows where it came from or what it's here for, but only that it's our protector. Meanwhile, strange, alien monsters creep in from the edge of the universe, determined to take Earth and the Last City. We are young 'knights' tasked with defending the remains of humanity, discovering the source of these monsters and - eventually - overcoming it."

Originally Posted by ThatsMytrunks

The last 4.5 minutes

could that be a 2D image of the Traveler sphere?
ThatsMytrunks
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(02-12-2013, 02:33 AM)
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I take it back. I'm an idiot. It updates every five minutes.
Hato-kun
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(02-12-2013, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThatsMytrunks

The last 4.5 minutes

Honestly it looks like a whole bunch of crazy galaxies.
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(02-12-2013, 02:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by ncsuDuncan

Everyone activate your nodes at 10:00pm EST. (30 minutes from this post.)

Save the two pics generated and post them here: http://misriahsolutions.com/arg/

(wwm0nkey, can you add this to the OP?)

Will do. Are you expecting any particular results, or just want to try it out and see what happens?
noffles
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(02-12-2013, 02:35 AM)

Originally Posted by ncsuDuncan

Everyone activate your nodes at 10:00pm EST. (30 minutes from this post.)

Save the two pics generated and post them here: http://misriahsolutions.com/arg/

(wwm0nkey, can you add this to the OP?)

I'm reading something right now, but I'll set an alarm for 5 minutes beforehand.
ncsuDuncan
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(02-12-2013, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThatsMytrunks

I take it back. I'm an idiot. It updates every five minutes.

I'm guessing it resets every five minutes.

Something like:
the first 1,000 visitors get images from the same set
visitors 1,001-2,000 get images from a different set

So we need to bump up the traffic within a five minute window to get new images.
7he Talon
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(02-12-2013, 02:36 AM)
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Whats with the days at the top? Is it being revealed in a week?
wwm0nkey
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(02-12-2013, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by ncsuDuncan

Everyone activate your nodes at 10:00pm EST. (30 minutes from this post.)

Save the two pics generated and post them here: http://misriahsolutions.com/arg/

(wwm0nkey, can you add this to the OP?)

Done
everyday math
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(02-12-2013, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hato-kun

Honestly it looks like a whole bunch of crazy galaxies.

Thats what I was thinking or something big blew up.

Originally Posted by ncsuDuncan

Everyone activate your nodes at 10:00pm EST. (30 minutes from this post.)

Save the two pics generated and post them here: http://misriahsolutions.com/arg/

(wwm0nkey, can you add this to the OP?)

Will do.
I love args. So much fun.
LycanXIII
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(02-12-2013, 02:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by everyday math

Thats what I was thinking or something big blew up.

Space Butterflies.
outunderthestars
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(02-12-2013, 02:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by 7he Talon

Whats with the days at the top? Is it being revealed in a week?

Bungie loves 7. Even destiny has seven letters...
Hato-kun
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(02-12-2013, 02:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by everyday math

Thats what I was thinking or something big blew up.

Moving around an axis in 3D even.
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(02-12-2013, 02:38 AM)
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Just realized I had my Dead Orbit shirt on while all of this is happening. Pretty funny
ThatsMytrunks
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(02-12-2013, 02:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by ncsuDuncan

I'm guessing it resets every five minutes.

Something like:
the first 1,000 visitors get images from the same set
visitors 1,001-2,000 get images from a different set

So we need to bump up the traffic within a five minute window to get new images.

No, it changes every five minutes. I'm compiling all of the images. It's the same image for everyone at any given moment.
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(02-12-2013, 02:39 AM)
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BUNGIE BACK
BUNGIE BACK
THAT'S ALL THESE ARGs SCREAMING
THAT BUNGIES BACK
everyday math
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(02-12-2013, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tashi

Just realized I had my Dead Orbit shirt on while all of this is happening. Pretty funny

Its destiny that you were to wear it on this day.

MrGreencastle
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(02-12-2013, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThatsMytrunks

No, it changes every five minutes. I'm compiling all of the images. It's the same image for everyone at any given moment.

Really? Then what are the instructions emphasizing simultaneous views and differences in position about?
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(02-12-2013, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Killthee

So the countdown ends on the 18th....MS Durango teaser right before PS Meeting?

There's already a countdown?!
StargazerXL
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(02-12-2013, 02:42 AM)
I think I know what Bungie (or their PR company) has done (or are trying to simulate). The terminology being used in this teaser is very similar to that used in radio interferometery, a technique where signals from individual radio telescopes are combined electronically to produce highly detailed images on the sky.

Collections of such telescopes are called "arrays" (like the Very Large Array in New Mexico). A given telescope is sometimes called an "element." Pairs of telescopes in an array are "baselines." In a radio interferometer, signals from each pair of telescopes are interfered and the resulting product, a "visibility," is measured. A given pair of telescopes produces a measurement in spatial frequency space, the "uv-plane." The ensemble of visibilities are Fourier transformed into an image.

What I think may be happening is that every visitor's IP is being traced and the distances to other IPs being worked out, making "baselines" of which an ensemble is being used to slowly reveal the image on the left as more people check out the page. The image on the right is the distribution of spatial frequencies so far covered. As the image on the right becomes more white, with more page views ("global observatories"), more spatial frequencies will have been covered and the image on the left will become more legible. The "frequency gaps" noted beneath the image on the right indicate that the spatial frequency coverage is not uniform, leading to significant aliasing and artifacts in the image on the left.
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(02-12-2013, 02:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Inorigo

There's already a countdown?!

I'm assuming the header is counting down to next Monday.

7he Talon
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(02-12-2013, 02:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by StargazerXL

I think I know what Bungie (or their PR company) has done (or are trying to simulate). The terminology being used in this teaser is very similar to that used in radio interferometery, a technique where signals from individual radio telescopes are combined electronically to produce highly detailed images on the sky.

Collections of such telescopes are called "arrays" (like the Very Large Array in New Mexico). A given telescope is sometimes called an "element." Pairs of telescopes in an array are "baselines." In a radio interferometer, signals from each pair of telescopes are interfered and the resulting product, a "visibility," is measured. A given pair of telescopes produces a measurement in spatial frequency space, the "uv-plane." The ensemble of visibilities are Fourier transformed into an image.

What I think may be happening is that every visitor's IP is being traced and the distances to other IPs being worked out, making "baselines" from which an ensemble is being used to slowly reveal the image on the left as more people check out the page. The image on the right is the distribution of spatial frequencies so far covered. As the image on the right becomes more white, with more page views ("global observatories"), more spatial frequencies will have been covered and the image on the left will become more legible. The "frequency gaps" noted beneath the image on the right indicate that the spatial frequency coverage is not uniform, leading to significant aliasing and artifacts in the image on the right.

I think you may be right.
everyday math
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(02-12-2013, 02:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by StargazerXL

I think I know what Bungie (or their PR company) has done (or are trying to simulate). The terminology being used in this teaser is very similar to that used in radio interferometery, a technique where signals from individual radio telescopes are combined electronically to produce highly detailed images on the sky.

Collections of such telescopes are called "arrays" (like the Very Large Array in New Mexico). A given telescope is sometimes called an "element." Pairs of telescopes in an array are "baselines." In a radio interferometer, signals from each pair of telescopes are interfered and the resulting product, a "visibility," is measured. A given pair of telescopes produces a measurement in spatial frequency space, the "uv-plane." The ensemble of visibilities are Fourier transformed into an image.

What I think may be happening is that every visitor's IP is being traced and the distances to other IPs being worked out, making "baselines" from which an ensemble is being used to slowly reveal the image on the left as more people check out the page. The image on the right is the distribution of spatial frequencies so far covered. As the image on the right becomes more white, with more page views ("global observatories"), more spatial frequencies will have been covered and the image on the left will become more legible. The "frequency gaps" noted beneath the image on the right indicate that the spatial frequency coverage is not uniform, leading to significant aliasing and artifacts in the image on the right.

Brilliant
Jest Chillin
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(02-12-2013, 02:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by StargazerXL

I think I know what Bungie (or their PR company) has done (or are trying to simulate). The terminology being used in this teaser is very similar to that used in radio interferometery, a technique where signals from individual radio telescopes are combined electronically to produce highly detailed images on the sky.

Collections of such telescopes are called "arrays" (like the Very Large Array in New Mexico). A given telescope is sometimes called an "element." Pairs of telescopes in an array are "baselines." In a radio interferometer, signals from each pair of telescopes are interfered and the resulting product, a "visibility," is measured. A given pair of telescopes produces a measurement in spatial frequency space, the "uv-plane." The ensemble of visibilities are Fourier transformed into an image.

What I think may be happening is that every visitor's IP is being traced and the distances to other IPs being worked out, making "baselines" of which an ensemble is being used to slowly reveal the image on the left as more people check out the page. The image on the right is the distribution of spatial frequencies so far covered. As the image on the right becomes more white, with more page views ("global observatories"), more spatial frequencies will have been covered and the image on the left will become more legible. The "frequency gaps" noted beneath the image on the right indicate that the spatial frequency coverage is not uniform, leading to significant aliasing and artifacts in the image on the right.

Best theory so far I think. And it seems to fit given the instructions.

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