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encephalon
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(02-16-2013, 10:57 PM)
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It would be nice to see the Japanese originals end up going on their PSN. I wonder how long the PSP ports will prevent that from happening .. (forever?)
glaurung
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(02-16-2013, 10:59 PM)
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Yes!

Personal favorite SMT game ever.
Dantis
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(02-16-2013, 11:00 PM)
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Hey Nich, no idea if you're still lurking around here, but what are the chances of an EU release? I'd rather get it on my primary account if I could.
cj_iwakura
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(02-16-2013, 11:01 PM)
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I can't fathom what could be blocking the PSP version if not sales(which was my theory due to EP bombing in Japan).

It's not Elisha LaVerne, because she's in the PS1 version too.
Lain
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(02-16-2013, 11:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by NichM

Nah, but I'm happy this is at least known now. I wrote a PSBlog article about it that will probably go up in a couple weeks, which touches on why the PSP version couldn't happen--and that's a "couldn't," not a "didn't," which is sadly all I'll ever really be able to say. It didn't have anything to do with fears of low sales.

English isn't my strong point, so bear with me, but what does the bolded mean exactly? PSP version couldn't happen, and it's a couldn't, not a didn't... but the PSP version didn't happen and isn't gonna happen, so how can it be a couldn't but not a didn't?
Is the meaning that the localization was already going on or planned to happen and then something happened and it became a couldn't that in turn became a didn't for all intents and purposes?
Not looking for an explanation about AtlusUSA actions (as much as I'd like to know), more about the meaning of that passage since it confuses me a lot.
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NichM
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Originally Posted by Dantis

Hey Nich, no idea if you're still lurking around here, but what are the chances of an EU release? I'd rather get it on my primary account if I could.

No guarantees (since EP never came out in Europe on PSOne, it'd mean getting it rated for those territories) but I'll ask about it on Tuesday.
Dantis
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(02-16-2013, 11:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by NichM

No guarantees (since EP never came out in Europe on PSOne, it'd mean getting it rated for those territories) but I'll ask about it on Tuesday.

Thank you very much. You're a star!
Eusis
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(02-16-2013, 11:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

Also, uh, will this require another OT? :P

Well, SS2 got one for whatever that's worth.

Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

I can't fathom what could be blocking the PSP version if not sales(which was my theory due to EP bombing in Japan).

It sounds like it's probably some programming hangups, whether it's lack of man power or somehow NOT having the foresight to make it reasonable for localization. I'd think Japanese developers would be better about that now, but I keep being surprised in the most amazing ways, and it IS a PS1 title ultimately.
cj_iwakura
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(02-16-2013, 11:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Eusis

Well, SS2 got one for whatever that's worth.

I made one for the PSP version, I mean.
Andrefpvs
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(02-16-2013, 11:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by NichM

No guarantees (since EP never came out in Europe on PSOne, it'd mean getting it rated for those territories) but I'll ask about it on Tuesday.

Thank you!! I hope this happens, it's my last hope (I play PS1 games on my Vita).
B.K.
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(02-16-2013, 11:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

I can't fathom what could be blocking the PSP version if not sales(which was my theory due to EP bombing in Japan).

I'm sure that there were issues with Index.

Originally Posted by Lain

English isn't my strong point, so bear with me, but what does the bolded mean exactly?

It means that they wanted to do it, but for some reason, they couldn't.
Supermanisdead
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(02-16-2013, 11:09 PM)
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Why not both versions, so I can play them on my TV?
cjkeats
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(02-16-2013, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Supermanisdead

Why not both versions, so I can play them on my TV?

You already can

lol, I'm kidding, this was a terrible solution that I still wish worked better.
Lain
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(02-16-2013, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by B.K.

It means that they wanted to do it, but for some reason, they couldn't.

I see. Thanks.
cj_iwakura
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(02-16-2013, 11:13 PM)
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Sounds like Nich's going to lay it out pretty thoroughly, but if necessary I can break down the translation differences in the OT when it releases(I doubt I'll bother making a new one).
Jotamide
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(02-16-2013, 11:21 PM)
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Cool stuff, now please bring us SMT Nocturne!
cj_iwakura
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(02-16-2013, 11:22 PM)
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By the way, and I will defend this to the death, EP PS had a great translation. Swap out the Revelations references and it's just about perfect.
encephalon
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(02-16-2013, 11:26 PM)
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Actually, come to think of it I've never played EP in English so this is a pretty good opportunity.
Taruranto
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(02-16-2013, 11:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

By the way, and I will defend this to the death, EP PS had a great translation. Swap out the Revelations references and it's just about perfect.


Well, it certainly wasn't bad, but having replayed it recently, i thought some sentences were too-literal. (like Lisa-Tatsuya interaction in the TV Dungeon)

Certainly better than IS PSP translation, honorifics and "Big Maya", ugh.
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(02-16-2013, 11:30 PM)
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PSN PSN PSN PSN
cj_iwakura
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(02-16-2013, 11:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by _Keiichi_

Well, it certainly wasn't bad, but having replayed it recently, i thought some sentences were too-literal. (like Lisa-Tatsuya interaction in the TV Dungeon)

Certainly better than IS PSP translation, honorifics and "Big Maya", ugh.

I actually like Eikichi's voice more in EP than IS. He sounds like a surfer dude.


Jun sounds HORRIBLE in EP. Lisa is good either way.
Taruranto
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(02-16-2013, 11:34 PM)
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Yeah, they screwed up Jun in the dub, he supposed to have a deep, manly voice like Tatsuya, but he sounds pretty plain.
wastedyears
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(02-16-2013, 11:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by randomkid

I don't think Nich is a Magic 8 Ball we should be hitting up for the details of every single Atlus business decision, it's just nice that he's around to correct things when he can.

As for the reason why Nocturne isn't up on PSN, Ghostlight said they've had emulation issues getting the DDS games up, so maybe that's it.

Digital Devil 1/2 are on the EU PSN already, they have been for almost a year now, seems strange that they would work in EU PSN but not in US PSN.
wastedyears
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(02-16-2013, 11:49 PM)
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Oops, nevermind. I looked into it a little more, you are right. I guess I was reading it wrong.
jello44
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(02-17-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by wastedyears

Oops, nevermind. I looked into it a little more, you are right. I guess I was reading it wrong.

They were supposed to be up about a year ago, but I don't remember the exact reason why.
Omikaru
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(02-17-2013, 12:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by NichM

No guarantees (since EP never came out in Europe on PSOne, it'd mean getting it rated for those territories) but I'll ask about it on Tuesday.

Excellent, thank you! :)
HiddenAway
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(02-17-2013, 12:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by jello44

They were supposed to be up about a year ago, but I don't remember the exact reason why.

Ghostlight posted an update on their latest blog post (the post itself is unrelated to the DDS games):

http://blog.ghostlight.uk.com/post/m...n-release-date

On a related topic - and before you ask – the situation with the Digital Devil Saga games remains unchanged. We’re still waiting for an update to the PS2 emulator which will allow us to release them.

vall03
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(02-17-2013, 12:33 AM)
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I really dont mind this, though I just got a PS1 copy last month. Would still prefer the PSP version though because of the enhancements.
suzu
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(02-17-2013, 12:38 AM)
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Better than nothing, I guess. :(
grandjedi6
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(02-17-2013, 12:55 AM)
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Just take it with you.
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(02-17-2013, 01:05 AM)
Cool. I personally already have it, but good for those who don't.
Blue Submarine No. 6
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(02-17-2013, 01:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by cjkeats

Originally Posted by Supermanisdead

Why not both versions, so I can play them on my TV?

You already can


lol, I'm kidding, this was a terrible solution that I still wish worked better.

Works great with a Dual Shock and a PSPGo...

re: P2:EP - will buy day one, of course... it's better than nothing...
Femmeworth
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(02-17-2013, 01:46 AM)
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This is less than desirable, but I can live with it if a fan translation happens for the PSP version. Would be awesome if Atlus USA at least translated some of the new sections and just posted them online.
cj_iwakura
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(02-17-2013, 01:46 AM)
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cj_iwakura
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(02-17-2013, 01:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Femmeworth

This is less than desirable, but I can live with it if a fan translation happens for the PSP version. Would be awesome if Atlus USA at least translated some of the new sections and just posted them online.

The Tatsuya scenario's already been scripted for what it's worth, and EP's script is quite good.
Parakeetman
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(02-17-2013, 01:49 AM)
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Nice to see them pushing it out.
Dantis
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(02-17-2013, 01:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

I suppose it's worth asking: Change Your Way will be in the PSN release, right?

I can almost guarantee that it will be.

Changing the PS1 ISO would probably be a much huger deal than what they're prepared to do.
Sophia
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(02-17-2013, 01:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

The Tatsuya scenario's already been scripted for what it's worth, and EP's script is quite good.

I've always liked the font they used for EP PS1. It's really nice on the eyes compared to the IS fan translation.
SatelliteOfLove
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(02-17-2013, 01:52 AM)
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Hook it into my VEINS!

Hook my wallet into Atlus' coffers!

Originally Posted by _Keiichi_

Yeah, they screwed up Jun in the dub, he supposed to have a deep, manly voice like Tatsuya, but he sounds pretty plain.

I liked Jun's voice. Fit him as the pensive, pentient, thoughtful young man he was
cj_iwakura
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(02-17-2013, 01:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by SatelliteOfLove

Hook it into my VEINS!

Hook my wallet into Atlus' coffers!



I liked Jun's voice. Fit him as the pensive, pentient, thoughtful young man he was


It's okay now. You can stop suffering.


He wasn't even trying.
SatelliteOfLove
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(02-17-2013, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

It's okay now. You can stop suffering.


He wasn't even trying.

I mean, he ain't no Yukino (but then again, very few could be).
buddha0991
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(02-17-2013, 02:24 AM)
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After I accepted the loss of the Hard difficulty (which seemed to actually be harder than the normal game's difficulty this time around), the Tatsuya scenarios (this hurts the most), the correct character and location names for the Persona 1 characters and the slick new interface, This is a fine version of this game. I am stoked to be able to get the entire series on one platform finally! (Arena doesn't count, holmes.)
The Mana Legend
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(02-17-2013, 02:25 AM)
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Finally, I'll be able to play the only three good Persona games on the go (Persona 1, EP and IS)!
buddha0991
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(02-17-2013, 02:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Mana Legend

Finally, I'll be able to play the only three good Persona games on the go (Persona 1, EP and IS)!

What about Shin Megami Tensei If.... which is basically Persona 0
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(02-17-2013, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Mana Legend

Finally, I'll be able to play the only three good Persona games on the go (Persona 1, EP and IS)!

Cue:


(also lol @ ShopTo advert, because a) it's banned for a now-invalid reason [admittedly it was a good reason at the time, but these days it's pretty much my preferred establishment for buying games. I don't think the case for it remaining banned holds up these days], and b) the deal being promoted isn't very good. CoDBlOps 2 for £38? Now? LOL).
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Sophia
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(02-17-2013, 02:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Mana Legend

Finally, I'll be able to play the only three good Persona games on the go (Persona 1, EP and IS)!

Well, I guess it's not a crime to have bad tastes...
Femmeworth
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(02-17-2013, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Mana Legend

Finally, I'll be able to play the only three good Persona games on the go (Persona 1, EP and IS)!

Don't start this shit, even in jest.
cj_iwakura
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(02-17-2013, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by buddha0991

What about Shin Megami Tensei If.... which is basically Persona 0

It's effectively a hack of SMT II anyway.
buddha0991
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(02-17-2013, 02:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Femmeworth

Don't start this shit, even in jest.

Part of me hates the fan wars, part of enjoys them


Originally Posted by cj_iwakura

It's effectively a hack of SMT II anyway.

Hardcore Hacker Hack You?

What do you think of that game btw, good?
cj_iwakura
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(02-17-2013, 02:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by buddha0991

What do you think of that game btw, good?

It's decent. It's SMT II without the story or towns. It's JUST dungeons.

Good story, what little it has.

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