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Originally Posted by PoweredBySoy

As much as I want to love WWII aerial combat games, doesn't the gameplay always devolve into everybody just circling each other nonstop?

That happens if 2 people that don't know how to play are dogfighting 1v1. That situation requires no backup, no terrain, and equal statistics for the planes. As soon as someone gets the balls to break out the circle and pull off a fancy move to get behind one, all it takes after that is one burst.

Originally Posted by Big_Al

How often do you earn golden lions or do you basically have to pay for them outside of the economy ? I got the starter ones they gave you and dumped them into my crew for the british but it looks like it's going to be veeeeeeeeery slow to level up after that (to be expected I guess).

Enjoying the game on the gameplay front though on PS4. Not sure how to unlock custom games and the sim modes, some things blocked off on the menu.

Unfortunately, though you'll get a pretty generous amount of lions at the beginning, that well will dry up pretty fast.

Originally Posted by PoweredBySoy

As much as I want to love WWII aerial combat games, doesn't the gameplay always devolve into everybody just circling each other nonstop?

Not at all. First of all, you don't really want to try to turn-fight an opponent (if all else is equal) unless you're a spitfire or a zero (if you're a zero fighting a spitfire), in which case you'll overtake the enemy, otherwise you might get stuck in an infinite loop. Sometimes you want to force the loop if you know friendlies are close by, but in general it can be futile (or very risky). If you want to engage a turn-fighter, you don't want to play their game. Just climb above them and dive.

Originally Posted by PoweredBySoy

As much as I want to love WWII aerial combat games, doesn't the gameplay always devolve into everybody just circling each other nonstop?

Not really. It's not like the objectives of each mission are "blow everyone out of the sky". I didn't have the gun and plane upgrades to hang with the dogfighters when I started, so my first missions were just trying to take out the ground targets which were the objective. You get lots of points doing that and sometimes you can avoid detection by not being in the mix.

Originally Posted by Llyranor

Unfortunately, though you'll get a pretty generous amount of lions at the beginning, that well will dry up pretty fast.

I did not touch my share of gold-currency because I do not know what investment is worthwhile? Any recommendations?

Is this game out on the US PSN? Didn't see it on there

Guys, guys. share button. Don't be shy. :p

Originally Posted by FlyinJ

Can EU PS4 users confirm that they ruined the balance of the game by adding mouse and flight stick support to the console version?

Or did they at least do the right thing and make mouse/keyboard and flightstick-only servers?

What difference does that make when the game is completely cross platform? You're playing against PC people already.

Originally Posted by BigDug13

What difference does that make when the game is completely cross platform? You're playing against PC people already.

Oh, are you? Well I won't be playing this then. No way am I going to try to compete with someone sitting at a desk using the super accurate mouse control.

Originally Posted by FlyinJ

Oh, are you? Well I won't be playing this then. No way am I going to try to compete with someone sitting at a desk using the super accurate mouse control.

Have you played the game? Mouse control hardly helps in this kind of game. It's not CounterStrike. It's more like Resistance 2 multiplayer. Or Halo.

Originally Posted by BigDug13

What difference does that make when the game is completely cross platform? You're playing against PC people already.

No it isn't cross platform yet from what I have heard. They have to sync the versions first or something.

Originally Posted by coolasj19

Have you played the game? Mouse control hardly helps in this kind of game. It's not CounterStrike. It's more like Resistance 2 multiplayer. Or Halo.

Have you played it? I played several hours on the PC, and the mouse controls are by far the most accurate and competitive. Far moreso than a flight stick or controller. You wouldn't think that was the case seeing how this is a flight sim, but that's how they made the controls.

The difference is seriously like playing with a controller in counterstrike versus a guy using M/KB.

Really bummed because I wanted to play this on the comfy couch using a controller. But if someone I'm playing against is using a mouse, I'll just be destroyed.

Originally Posted by FlyinJ

Have you played it? I played several hours on the PC, and the mouse controls are by far the most accurate and competitive. Far moreso than a flight stick or controller. You wouldn't think that was the case seeing how this is a flight sim, but that's how they made the controls.

The difference is seriously like playing with a controller in counterstrike versus a guy using M/KB.

Yes, I have played the game. I'm playing it right now. I played on PC with a M/KB (movement was clunky as hell) and I'm playing on PS4. It may be easier, but it's not inherently better. I don't want to get into this but if you really want to be the judge for yourself play the game on PS4 and ask the people at the top of the leaderboards if they are using mice.

Originally Posted by FlyinJ

Have you played it? I played several hours on the PC, and the mouse controls are by far the most accurate and competitive. Far moreso than a flight stick or controller. You wouldn't think that was the case seeing how this is a flight sim, but that's how they made the controls.

The difference is seriously like playing with a controller in counterstrike versus a guy using M/KB.

Really bummed because I wanted to play this on the comfy couch using a controller. But if someone I'm playing against is using a mouse, I'll just be destroyed.

I'd say the mouse is the best for precise aiming, but really stink for flying in general. A flight sim HOTAS setup will fly circles around a mouse user, but the mouse user will be able to snipe way better. I'm eager to try this with a PS4 controller, it might actually provide a nice middle ground.

Originally Posted by coolasj19

Yes, I have played the game. I'm playing it right now. I played on PC with a M/KB (movement was clunky as hell) and I'm playing on PS4. It may be easier, but it's not inherently better. I don't want to get into this but if you really want to be the judge for yourself play the game on PS4 and ask the people at the top of the leaderboards if they are using mice.

That's exactly what I plan to do.

The PC leaderboards are dominated by mice users currently, I don't see that changing if this game is cross-platform.

Originally Posted by FlyinJ

That's exactly what I plan to do.

The PC leaderboards are dominated by mice users currently, I don't see that changing if this game is cross-platform.

I look forward to the results. Please post them here when you have enough.

Yo guys... War Thunder doesn't have an OT. It needs an OT. It's too unfocused as is even without multiple forum threads.

Gave this a go just now, my Speedlink Black Widow was on the list luckily so I jumped straight in. Controls are wonky as others have said, but I'll give it a proper go tomorrow and adjust the sensitivity. Was quite fun, I took down three enemy craft in the last game which made me feel accomplished as a complete noob to the game :)

Will try and get friends interested in joining up.

I'm going to punch an infant animal if my pilot gets knocked out again. I... I can't take it. I dump points into Vitality and it still happens. Do I need to max it?

Can anyone out there tell me were exactly I need to click to have the game show me my XP until next rank?? I cannot find it anywhere...

Today the game stars a new closed beta called Ground Forces. Here is the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kap2u...ature=youtu.be

Originally Posted by Hari Seldon

I'd say the mouse is the best for precise aiming, but really stink for flying in general. A flight sim HOTAS setup will fly circles around a mouse user, but the mouse user will be able to snipe way better. I'm eager to try this with a PS4 controller, it might actually provide a nice middle ground.

PS4 supports use of the touchpad to simulate mouse. Works ok but isn't perfect. I'd have liked a gyro option too - I think that woudl have been useful to maintain a track on a target.

for playing the game, mouse is best. But for the feeling of flying I greatly prefer a controller.