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View Poll Results: Is Joakim Mogren CG?
#TeamCG - Totally CG, Fox Engine is the future of videogames!
839 41.11%
#TeamReal - Lol Kojima Productions isn't auditioning for AVATAR 2! :P
1,202 58.89%
Voters: 2041. You may not vote on this poll


Persona86
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(03-22-2013, 01:50 AM)

Originally Posted by CarbonatedFalcon

It's fun times either way.

Some people's comments suggest that this is serious business, which will effect their opinion of you.....f o r e v e r
Last edited by Persona86; 03-22-2013 at 01:59 AM.
dyergram
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(03-22-2013, 01:53 AM)
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Teamcg because I want to believe damn it.
Mikey Jr.
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(03-22-2013, 02:00 AM)
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#TeamReal.

Because if you believe Kojima can pull that shit off, you are delusional.
Stillmatic
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(03-22-2013, 02:01 AM)
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After a quick browse this is the best example of realistic facial animation I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKyu32NPUw&hd=1

Funnily enough, they're attending GDC.
clay_ghost
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(03-22-2013, 02:04 AM)
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Team CG , I want to believe!
onQ123
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(03-22-2013, 02:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by kassatsu

Sanity is winning out.

I say how can it be
If Team CG is out their minds, how can they be in-sanity?
toddhunter
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(03-22-2013, 02:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Stillmatic

After a quick browse this is the best example of realistic facial animation I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKyu32NPUw&hd=1

Funnily enough, they're attending GDC.



Also they should make more (good) Red Dwarf.
Ryuhza
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(03-22-2013, 02:17 AM)

Originally Posted by Stillmatic

After a quick browse this is the best example of realistic facial animation I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKyu32NPUw&hd=1

Funnily enough, they're attending GDC.

From 2010 too. :D
LeleSocho
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(03-22-2013, 02:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by kassatsu

Sanity is winning out.

Sanity is not always the answer my friend...
Relaxed Muscle
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(03-22-2013, 02:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by toddhunter



Also they should make more (good) Red Dwarf.

It dosn't have perfect teeth. I'd say is real. And I see things in the skin and how animates that I never saw on a CG. REAL, CASE CLOSED!.
meppi
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(03-22-2013, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by dyergram

Teamcg because I want to believe damn it.

Exactly. Would be interesting to say the least, not to mention a mindfuck. :)
Beelzebubs
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(03-22-2013, 02:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by toddhunter



Also they should make more (good) Red Dwarf.

Holly is that you?
MaLDo
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(03-22-2013, 02:44 AM)
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This wrinkle has two positions that alternate throughout the interview. Not a movement caused by the eyebrows, but it seems that there are two shots of the actor and they are alternated.

Punkster_NY
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(03-22-2013, 02:45 AM)
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^.^
javac
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(03-22-2013, 02:52 AM)
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Joakim and Mogren are two separate entities, you fools! You've killed us all! CG wasn't supposed to be tampered with like this, you've caused a hole in the space time continuum!
Relaxed Muscle
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(03-22-2013, 02:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by javac

Joakim and Mogren are two separate entities, you fools! You've killed us all! CG wasn't supposed to be tampered with like this, you've caused a hole in the space time continuum!

Legends says that when Joakim and Mogren becomes one, CG will be Real, and Real will become CG. And then the universe will become Zero.
javac
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(03-22-2013, 03:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle

Legends says that when Joakim and Mogren becomes one, CG will be Real, and Real will become CG. And then the universe will become Zero.

I've heard such stores, but I didn't want to believe. I was afraid damn it! The instrumentality of the human race is near. Kojima, forgive me for my sins. I believe now.
Lord Error
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(03-22-2013, 03:08 AM)

Originally Posted by Stillmatic

After a quick browse this is the best example of realistic facial animation I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKyu32NPUw&hd=1

Funnily enough, they're attending GDC.

Wow, holy shit at that. It's actually very easy to forget that you're looking at CG, even moments after they make it painfully obvious what is it that you're looking at.
Mik2121
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(03-22-2013, 03:08 AM)
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I voted for TeamCG just to try to balance out this. I'm not sure and what I definitely don't believe is that we'll get anything nearly this quality in an actual game, but it could potentially be done (cleverly and with lots of tricks) in real time with... 8GB DDR5 RAM!

It's probably a real person, but the way he acts makes it look so suspicious... lol
Toparaman
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(03-22-2013, 03:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by toddhunter

I have to admit, that's really good. Still TeamReal though.
AuthenticM
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(03-22-2013, 03:17 AM)
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Can you imagine if this guy is real how fucking depressed he must be right now ? Probably wondering what the hell is wrong with his face.
Relaxed Muscle
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(03-22-2013, 03:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by AuthenticM

Can you imagine if this guy is real how fucking depressed he must be right now ? Probably wondering what the hell is wrong with his face.

If I were in his place I would be laughing my ass off of the whole affair. But that's me, still I don't think the guy should be depressed about having "perfect white teeth".
Superblatt
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(03-22-2013, 03:19 AM)
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That might be the best example of why it's CG I've seen this far...
FINALBOSS
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(03-22-2013, 03:20 AM)
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Why does this reek like a PR/hype thread for this game?
Persona86
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(03-22-2013, 03:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle

It dosn't have perfect teeth. I'd say is real. And I see things in the skin and how animates that I never saw on a CG. REAL, CASE CLOSED!.

They are at GDC too, we will find out then. :p
YouEnjoyMySelf
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(03-22-2013, 03:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle

If I were in his place I would be laughing my ass off of the whole affair. But that's me, still I don't think the guy should be depressed about having "perfect white teeth".

Exactly. Some people don't care what others think about every little thing, especially randoms on the internet. I doubt this guy cares.
WeAreStarStuff
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(03-22-2013, 03:22 AM)
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Voted team real; would love to be wrong.
Aleph
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(03-22-2013, 03:23 AM)
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I'm still sticking with #TeamCG, I wish I could vote on the poll though. Can't wait for the truth to be revealed.
Persona86
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(03-22-2013, 03:24 AM)

Originally Posted by YouEnjoyMySelf

Exactly. Some people don't care what others think about every little thing, especially randoms on the internet. I doubt this guy cares.

Also I haven't really read anything that would cause me depression if I were him. I mean some people think he looks like Brad Pitt.
Nils
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(03-22-2013, 03:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by javac

I've heard such stores, but I didn't want to believe. I was afraid damn it! The instrumentality of the human race is near. Kojima, forgive me for my sins. I believe now.

CinGularity is upon us.
Neuromancer
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(03-22-2013, 03:25 AM)
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Nothing will make me change my vote to #TeamReal. Because then I'd be dead inside.
Relaxed Muscle
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(03-22-2013, 03:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Persona86

Also I haven't really read anything that would cause me depression if I were him. I mean some people think he looks like Brad Pitt.

Or even better, some people said he looks like Cliffy B.
bigboss370
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(03-22-2013, 03:27 AM)
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Kojima never uses CG.


#TeamReal-time
Relaxed Muscle
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(03-22-2013, 03:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by bigboss370

Kojima never uses CG.


#TeamReal-time

Sorry, I can't go deeper. But I applaud your level of faith.
javac
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(03-22-2013, 03:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by bigboss370

Kojima never uses CG.


#TeamReal-time

Big boss, why are you trying to deceive us for?
Evolved1
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(03-22-2013, 03:31 AM)
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I love how in the Audrey Hepburn commercial thread all of gaf was experts in picking out CG... even though half the shit they were saying was CG was actually real.

Now a significant number of gaffers believes this clearly not cg guy to be CG?

lol... I love this forum.
Sephar
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(03-22-2013, 03:38 AM)
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#TeamCG I wanto to believe
snoopers
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(03-22-2013, 03:55 AM)
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Is this thread a joke ?

Honest question.
AuthenticM
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(03-22-2013, 03:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by snoopers

Is this thread a joke ?

Honest question.

No, it's very CG.
javac
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(03-22-2013, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by snoopers

Is this thread a joke ?

Honest question.

I question the validity of the thread too when I see the amount of people that are a part of TeamREAL.
Kageshinzo
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(03-22-2013, 04:07 AM)
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*wakes up and sees the poll results*

*laughs at all the people who need their eyes checked*


The sane people are winning. All's right in the world.
Relaxed Muscle
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(03-22-2013, 05:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kageshinzo

*wakes up and sees the poll results*

*laughs at all the people who need their eyes checked*


The sane people are winning. All's right in the world.

But what will happen if IS CG?

Does that mean that the world is fucked?!
Sinatar
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(03-22-2013, 05:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by snoopers

Is this thread a joke ?

Honest question.

People thought the all those PS3 CG videos way back at the E3 they first showed it off at were actual in game footage so what do you think?

GAF is full of crazy people.
~Kinggi~
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(03-22-2013, 05:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle

But what will happen if IS CG?

Does that mean that the world is fucked?!

It means GAF kickstarts a solid gold throne for Lord Kojima to place his finely tuned ass.
MechaZain
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(03-22-2013, 05:41 AM)
#TeamCG because the other side seems really angry and not fun
Nils
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(03-22-2013, 05:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by MechaZain

#TeamCG because the other side seems really angry and not fun

If I have to choose between crazy and bitter, I'll choose crazy any day.
flippedb
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(03-22-2013, 05:48 AM)

Originally Posted by MaLDo

This wrinkle has two positions that alternate throughout the interview. Not a movement caused by the eyebrows, but it seems that there are two shots of the actor and they are alternated.

By the bumpy flow of the interview, you can tell it wasn't shot in one take.
uuaschbaer
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(03-22-2013, 05:53 AM)
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Have you seen Joakim's eyes? They're marble white. Even away from the iris, where eyes tend to get redder or yellower, his are solid white. I'm not pointing out the difference in white balance between his and Geoff's shots but specifically the lack of a gradient in the actual colour of the eye.

Pretty much what you might suspect if someone filmed Joakim in one of those light box thingies NVIDIA was going on about recently and then stuck in some eyeballs, for instance.

So I went a-looking for mistakes and found this:



On the top left you see Joakim's eye looking away from the light, on the bottom left looking more or less at it, on the top right Geoff's looking away, on the bottom right looking at it. Someone's pupil is malfunctioning.

Goodbye TeamReal, I'm defecting!

I can't vote anyway *maniacal lol*

#TeamCG
cheezcake
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(03-22-2013, 05:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by uuaschbaer

Goodbye TeamReal, I'm defecting!

I can't vote anyway *maniacal lol*

#TeamCG

Toski
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(03-22-2013, 06:02 AM)
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There's only two things I believe in: CG Joakim, and Mike Ross, and I'm not sure about Mike Ross.

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