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beautiful...isn't it?

Previously on...HaloGAF

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...5#post52385775

Originally Posted by The Henery

Oh yes, absolutely, 100 percent, without question. The other day I was going to make a quick post: "Every time I hop on Halo 4, I'm repeatedly astonished at the continuing success of Infinity Big Team Slayer". Once I thought about it however, I realised that iBTB's success makes complete sense. Its continued success, population-wise, is the residual effect of Halo 4's launch physique.

There are vast, vast, numerous amounts of videogamers who enjoyed the original Halo trilogy. The PS2 dominated that console generation but had it not been for Halo CE's foundational pillar in the Xbox's lauch, and Xbox Live's perfect launch partner in Halo 2 then the Xbox would have gone the way of the Sega Saturn or Jaguar, forgotton and completely stomped into anonymity by the PS2. Halo 3's years at the top of the Live charts and respectable (for a years old game) subsequent tussle with COD releases bore out that there were still many, many gamers who enjoyed normal Halo gameplay.

Then Halo Reach happened and a lot of gamers who had nine years worth of gameplay muscle memory invested in Halo are thrown by having to stop shooting in the middle of a battle in order for their shots to be accurate. They have moments of dizzying frustration when a player they would have killed in a given situation in the previous three titles suddenly activates an invincibility button. They are killed by players who can suddenly fly over their heads from spawn and the game doesn't offer them a Y axis sensitivity to accomodate these new features. They enter Team Slayer, a safe bet of a playlist in the previous two titles and half of the maps are a turgid, mono-grey eyesore that are all visually alike and don't play particularly well. They go to BTB, a favourite for so many in H2 and H3 and there is not a single, non-forge map custom built for the mode, instead playing on built-for-an-entirely-different-mode horror shows like Spire and Boneyard. They actually get put into BTB SWAT on Boneyard, spawn Red stairs, and are repeatedly spawn killed in the open by a 3x zoom, single shot precision rifle.

These players think Halo Reach is not a very fun Halo game. They don't like the changes, they don't like the poor selection of maps, amongst other things. They look around for other places to put their gaming time; Black Op's releases on the back of three successful predecessors and, crucially, doesn't mess around with what made those games popular in the first place. It identify's a rivals strength of meta-features (Halo's theatre and social file sharing capabilities) and implements its own theatre which in many ways improves upon Halo's version and then offers players the social sharing side of it, not on a dev website or by jumping through hoops in game but through free rendered uploads to probably the most visited website on Earth in Youtube. Many of the gamers put off by Halo's strange new direction (no 1-50 wtf? Timing shots and no BR wtf? You can spawn with camo now wtf?) decide to go where a lot of their friends went, a safe, you know what you're getting deal in COD. Lots of them also get into Battlefield 3, a game that knows what it does best, very large scale military battles, is somewhat unique in the FPS landscape and sticks to it.

Fast forward to October 2012 and these players who loved the original trilogy but checked out with Reach, they see the Halo 4 PR train in full swing. "Oh hey, look, the Master Chief's back" they say. They remember paying the same price for ODST as they did for Halo 3 but ODST didn't have proper multiplayer nor the Chief. They remember paying full price the following year for Reach, which again didn't have the Chief, and being put off by the weird, unexpected things in the multiplayer. So they see the Chief and they associate him with the last game he was in, Halo 3, that game that they and their friends had lots of awesome times with. So they look forward to Halo 4's release because hey, Chief's back, so Halo will be normal again right?

This is where one goes back to the point about Halo 4's launch 'physique'. The launch state of a game is arguably its most important. It is where the vast majority of players who don't read forums and gaming press etc get their idea of a games identity and the game developers intent for the series. Many of those players that Reach lost are back for Halo 4 in launch week, eager to give the franchise another shot.

They load up the game and tentatively enter War Games ("I think this is the multi, guys"). The party lead and their buddies look for a playlist they remember loving, Team Slayer, but there is no sign of it. "Just pick the top one, come on party leader!". So they enter Infinity Slayer. They play five hypothetical games. The voting for these five games goes 'Adrift, Complex, Complex, Adrift, Abandon'. The maps quality don't seem very high and now it appears everyone has a power weapon at some point, and that guy they just killed pressed X to spawn without punishment and cleaned them up while they waited for their shields to recharge, completely unfairly. Weapons are confusingly spawning at random, with no explanation as to why that is happening (it didn't happen in the ten years they played Halo before). They play another bunch of Infinity Slayer and soon come to realise that there's only four 4v4 maps and two of them are objectively poor for Slayer. So they venture over to Infinity BTB and, while the gameplay problems remain from their 4v4 experience, at least there are more maps on offer.

So what happens to this hypothetical party of four a week after Halo 4's release? Three of them go to Black Op's 2 or back to Battlefield 3 (COD does weapon unlocks and instant respawn far better than Halo ever will and BF3 is built around large scale combat and, crucially, let's you drive a vehicle more than five meters without getting stunned by a spawn weapon). One stays (the opening populations were around 400, 000 and then dropped to a quarter of that). The one who stays motivation for doing so is as multitudinous as Halo's confused identities. It might be a love of heavy BTB gameplay, it might be because that player is one of those who is an absolute sucker for levelling systems no matter what the gameplay and wishes to reach SR 130. It might be that they fucking love the party gametype Regicide. But the question isn't why so few stayed it's why so many chose to leave...

Halo 4 sold so many copies because it it had an 11 year established base of users and previous customers right? For 9 of those years Halo was about equal starts, checks, balances and largely reasonable design. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that many of that established user base came to Halo 4 expecting a direct, regular Master Chief sequel to Halo 3, Reach being the equivalent of an experimental off-shoot branch, not the foundation for Halo 4. Those players came to Halo, experienced instant respawn, random weapon drops, camo sniping, camo boltshotting, their favourite Warthog being stunned every three seconds by an unlocked spawn weapon, no ranked/social choice and realised they had to play for hours in order to unlock a perk so they didn't frequently run out of ammo (weapons vanishing every 12 seconds as they do). They probably realised at that point that all these things that were making Halo not feel like the game they'd enjoyed for a decade were being done better in other games in which they made sense. And so, they went to those other games.

So, COD does unlock systems and fast, one shot kill, 60fps gameplay best. Battlefield 3 cornered the big battle market. What was always Halo's core strength? FOUR VERSUS FOUR, arena based slayer and objective gametypes. 343 launches with four smallish maps, and a shit load of BTB content. 6 of its subsequent 9 DLC maps are BTB. Halo no longer has a grip on thaepopular area of the 4v4 market. People who bought or rented Halo 4 to see if it was normal again have disappeared. They won't be back five months from launch when it's announced in a corner of an internet forum that Team Throwdown, a normal-ish Halo playlist is coming to Halo 4! After that opening week they've made their mind up and you've lost them forever. Well, at least until Halo 5 rolls around but even then they might not bother. See, next time, Halo won't have the 'Master Chief wasn't in those games so it doesn't count' excuse. Master Chief, along with the Halo name, is now tainted.

TU Checklist:
- Fixed Gauss Hog

Map Pack Synopses:
1. Crimson - Three big maps, nothing else to note
2. Majestic - Three more maps. One is at night on a roof-top. Small-mid size. Another is pretty big and open with a couple grav lifts. Sorta like a ground level, square narrows (only bigger and bad). The third one has 9/11 in the background. Never forget.
3. Castle - More BTB, nobody buy this.

Playlist Updates
- This area of the OT is still under construction due to lack of funds and information

We do have some great data what this lack of effort and consolidation have done for the game though:



But who are we to argue with facts? We're only community members lacking high degrees in DMD. So let's just accept this fact:





Many thanks to Ghaleon for his sage advice on another successful OT

NEWS!:

3.3.13 Bulletin

A 50,000 EXP Code
Last edited by Booties; 04-05-2013 at 05:03 AM.
DeadNames
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(04-04-2013, 05:18 AM)
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I thought Dax had this?
Rev3rb
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(04-04-2013, 05:19 AM)
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HGS

TU Checklist:
- Fixed Gauss Hog

perfect.
heckfu
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(04-04-2013, 05:19 AM)
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hahaha
Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:20 AM)

Originally Posted by The Henery

Oh yes, absolutely, 100 percent, without question. The other day I was going to make a quick post: "Every time I hop on Halo 4, I'm repeatedly astonished at the continuing success of Infinity Big Team Slayer". Once I thought about it however, I realised that iBTB's success makes complete sense. Its continued success, population-wise, is the residual effect of Halo 4's launch physique.

There are vast, vast, numerous amounts of videogamers who enjoyed the original Halo trilogy. The PS2 dominated that console generation but had it not been for Halo CE's foundational pillar in the Xbox's lauch, and Xbox Live's perfect launch partner in Halo 2 then the Xbox would have gone the way of the Sega Saturn or Jaguar, forgotton and completely stomped into anonymity by the PS2. Halo 3's years at the top of the Live charts and respectable (for a years old game) subsequent tussle with COD releases bore out that there were still many, many gamers who enjoyed normal Halo gameplay.

Then Halo Reach happened and a lot of gamers who had nine years worth of gameplay muscle memory invested in Halo are thrown by having to stop shooting in the middle of a battle in order for their shots to be accurate. They have moments of dizzying frustration when a player they would have killed in a given situation in the previous three titles suddenly activates an invincibility button. They are killed by players who can suddenly fly over their heads from spawn and the game doesn't offer them a Y axis sensitivity to accomodate these new features. They enter Team Slayer, a safe bet of a playlist in the previous two titles and half of the maps are a turgid, mono-grey eyesore that are all visually alike and don't play particularly well. They go to BTB, a favourite for so many in H2 and H3 and there is not a single, non-forge map custom built for the mode, instead playing on built-for-an-entirely-different-mode horror shows like Spire and Boneyard. They actually get put into BTB SWAT on Boneyard, spawn Red stairs, and are repeatedly spawn killed in the open by a 3x zoom, single shot precision rifle.

These players think Halo Reach is not a very fun Halo game. They don't like the changes, they don't like the poor selection of maps, amongst other things. They look around for other places to put their gaming time; Black Op's releases on the back of three successful predecessors and, crucially, doesn't mess around with what made those games popular in the first place. It identify's a rivals strength of meta-features (Halo's theatre and social file sharing capabilities) and implements its own theatre which in many ways improves upon Halo's version and then offers players the social sharing side of it, not on a dev website or by jumping through hoops in game but through free rendered uploads to probably the most visited website on Earth in Youtube. Many of the gamers put off by Halo's strange new direction (no 1-50 wtf? Timing shots and no BR wtf? You can spawn with camo now wtf?) decide to go where a lot of their friends went, a safe, you know what you're getting deal in COD. Lots of them also get into Battlefield 3, a game that knows what it does best, very large scale military battles, is somewhat unique in the FPS landscape and sticks to it.

Fast forward to October 2012 and these players who loved the original trilogy but checked out with Reach, they see the Halo 4 PR train in full swing. "Oh hey, look, the Master Chief's back" they say. They remember paying the same price for ODST as they did for Halo 3 but ODST didn't have proper multiplayer nor the Chief. They remember paying full price the following year for Reach, which again didn't have the Chief, and being put off by the weird, unexpected things in the multiplayer. So they see the Chief and they associate him with the last game he was in, Halo 3, that game that they and their friends had lots of awesome times with. So they look forward to Halo 4's release because hey, Chief's back, so Halo will be normal again right?

This is where one goes back to the point about Halo 4's launch 'physique'. The launch state of a game is arguably its most important. It is where the vast majority of players who don't read forums and gaming press etc get their idea of a games identity and the game developers intent for the series. Many of those players that Reach lost are back for Halo 4 in launch week, eager to give the franchise another shot.

They load up the game and tentatively enter War Games ("I think this is the multi, guys"). The party lead and their buddies look for a playlist they remember loving, Team Slayer, but there is no sign of it. "Just pick the top one, come on party leader!". So they enter Infinity Slayer. They play five hypothetical games. The voting for these five games goes 'Adrift, Complex, Complex, Adrift, Abandon'. The maps quality don't seem very high and now it appears everyone has a power weapon at some point, and that guy they just killed pressed X to spawn without punishment and cleaned them up while they waited for their shields to recharge, completely unfairly. Weapons are confusingly spawning at random, with no explanation as to why that is happening (it didn't happen in the ten years they played Halo before). They play another bunch of Infinity Slayer and soon come to realise that there's only four 4v4 maps and two of them are objectively poor for Slayer. So they venture over to Infinity BTB and, while the gameplay problems remain from their 4v4 experience, at least there are more maps on offer.

So what happens to this hypothetical party of four a week after Halo 4's release? Three of them go to Black Op's 2 or back to Battlefield 3 (COD does weapon unlocks and instant respawn far better than Halo ever will and BF3 is built around large scale combat and, crucially, let's you drive a vehicle more than five meters without getting stunned by a spawn weapon). One stays (the opening populations were around 400, 000 and then dropped to a quarter of that). The one who stays motivation for doing so is as multitudinous as Halo's confused identities. It might be a love of heavy BTB gameplay, it might be because that player is one of those who is an absolute sucker for levelling systems no matter what the gameplay and wishes to reach SR 130. It might be that they fucking love the party gametype Regicide. But the question isn't why so few stayed it's why so many chose to leave...

Halo 4 sold so many copies because it it had an 11 year established base of users and previous customers right? For 9 of those years Halo was about equal starts, checks, balances and largely reasonable design. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that many of that established user base came to Halo 4 expecting a direct, regular Master Chief sequel to Halo 3, Reach being the equivalent of an experimental off-shoot branch, not the foundation for Halo 4. Those players came to Halo, experienced instant respawn, random weapon drops, camo sniping, camo boltshotting, their favourite Warthog being stunned every three seconds by an unlocked spawn weapon, no ranked/social choice and realised they had to play for hours in order to unlock a perk so they didn't frequently run out of ammo (weapons vanishing every 12 seconds as they do). They probably realised at that point that all these things that were making Halo not feel like the game they'd enjoyed for a decade were being done better in other games in which they made sense. And so, they went to those other games.

So, COD does unlock systems and fast, one shot kill, 60fps gameplay best. Battlefield 3 cornered the big battle market. What was always Halo's core strength? FOUR VERSUS FOUR, arena based slayer and objective gametypes. 343 launches with four smallish maps, and a shit load of BTB content. 6 of its subsequent 9 DLC maps are BTB. Halo no longer has a grip on thaepopular area of the 4v4 market. People who bought or rented Halo 4 to see if it was normal again have disappeared. They won't be back five months from launch when it's announced in a corner of an internet forum that Team Throwdown, a normal-ish Halo playlist is coming to Halo 4! After that opening week they've made their mind up and you've lost them forever. Well, at least until Halo 5 rolls around but even then they might not bother. See, next time, Halo won't have the 'Master Chief wasn't in those games so it doesn't count' excuse. Master Chief, along with the Halo name, is now tainted.


Ding ding ding.

I said it months before this crappy game came out and was banned. The lead designers and Frankie lied to us and I called them out and was ostracized. They deserve to have this happen to them:






Halo is dead. Gears stinks. Microsoft's multiplayer exclusives stink. Will probably go with the PS4 next gen and get all of Sony's good games AND COD instead of just playing COD on the xbox and having to pay for LIVE.
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Originally Posted by DeadNames

I thought Dax had this?

If only.
EagleBurnn
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(04-04-2013, 05:20 AM)
Never give in to Bugs!

Also, wall of shame of OT15
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Tashi
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(04-04-2013, 05:20 AM)
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Oh hey
DeadNames
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(04-04-2013, 05:21 AM)
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isn't that a bit harsh, masala man?
Booties
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(04-04-2013, 05:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by DeadNames

I thought Dax had this?

Who?
Zoba
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(04-04-2013, 05:21 AM)
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Let's get this debate started.
Tawpgun
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(04-04-2013, 05:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Masala Man

Ding ding ding.

I said it months before this crappy game came out and was banned. The lead designers and Frankie lied to us and I called them out and was ostracized. They deserve to have this happen to them:

So... you admitted this is not your first account.









Solid OP.
MaximumFlipFlop
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(04-04-2013, 05:22 AM)

Originally Posted by Masala Man

Ding ding ding.

I said it months before this crappy game came out and was banned. The lead designers and Frankie lied to us and I called them out and was ostracized. They deserve to have this happen to them:

Halo is dead. Gears stinks. Microsoft's multiplayer exclusives stink. Will probably go with the PS4 next gen and get all of Sony's good games AND COD instead of just playing COD on the xbox and having to pay for LIVE.

Post it in one more halo thread, just to be sure.
neoism
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(04-04-2013, 05:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tawpgun

HaloGAF was more fun back in the day for two reasons

1. There were less people.

2. People played Halo

This only applies the beginning of Reach when I joined around Reach OT3. From what i've lurked these 2 points were more apparent during Halo 3.

the golden days where the halo 3 thread...<3 well neva be beat..

wonderful thread name..
Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:22 AM)

Originally Posted by DeadNames

isn't that a bit harsh, masala man?

Nope. Those dudes stole money from me. They preyed on my love of a franchise to get me to buy a game, and then abused me by releasing terrible mappacks, one of which glitched and should have been free.
heckfu
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(04-04-2013, 05:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by SltyPoison

Post it in one more halo thread, just to be sure.

hahaha awesome post

Originally Posted by Masala Man

Nope. Those dudes stole money from me. They preyed on my love of a franchise to get me to buy a game, and then abused me by releasing terrible mappacks, one of which glitched and should have been free.

this is what the ignore feature is for
Homeboyd
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(04-04-2013, 05:23 AM)
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sUP
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks
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Originally Posted by Masala Man

Ding ding ding.

I said it months before this crappy game came out and was banned. The lead designers and Frankie lied to us and I called them out and was ostracized. They deserve to have this happen to them:

Halo is dead. Gears stinks. Microsoft's multiplayer exclusives stink. Will probably go with the PS4 next gen and get all of Sony's good games AND COD instead of just playing COD on the xbox and having to pay for LIVE.

Masala Man
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Originally Posted by Tawpgun

So... you admitted this is not your first account.

I was going to point this out too.

Originally Posted by Booties

Who?

Really?
EagleBurnn
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(04-04-2013, 05:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Booties

Oh Bungie, Where Art Thou?

Reach 2 can save Halo!
Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:25 AM)

Originally Posted by SltyPoison

Post it in one more halo thread, just to be sure.

Originally Posted by help1

If I had the chance, I'd do this to Frankie's face:



With no underwear on, and right after I took a shit. Lying bastard.

I bet the ranking system will suck, too.


ooooookay :)
Tawpgun
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(04-04-2013, 05:25 AM)
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Don't like the thread title though, should be hgs
Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:26 AM)

Originally Posted by Tawpgun

So... you admitted this is not your first account.









Solid OP.

.... Yes. I don't care about my accoutns on this website. You guys just ban people who don't kiss up to everyones asses.
DeadNames
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(04-04-2013, 05:26 AM)
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help1: the hero halogaf needs.
MaximumFlipFlop
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(04-04-2013, 05:26 AM)

Originally Posted by Masala Man

ooooookay :)

You just wasted your time...for what?
Booshka
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Daffy Duck Looney Tunes is best Looney Tunes.

Also, I like how page 1 of this OT has some of the personal attacks and vitriol that has kept 343 way the hell out of HaloGAF.

Stay classy.
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orznge
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help1 owns
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Live Streaming Sticky thread over at Waypoint. Live Streaming: A Streaming Hub, Post or Watch

Anyone at HaloGAF feel free to reply with more events, streams or PM me with any etc. Suggestions for the thread are more than welcome.

@EagleBurn - Here is the Reddit post

Also the content in that sticky thread is going into the Reddit Halo Wiki, thanks to OpTic Niko XD
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Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:27 AM)

Originally Posted by SltyPoison

You just wasted your time...for what?

You're wasting your time here, too, bud. For what?
EagleBurnn
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(04-04-2013, 05:27 AM)

Originally Posted by Ozzy Onya A2Z

@EagleBurn - I'll go make a reddit post now and if you could kindly sticky it after I PM you the details that would be great, cheers mate.

All good! If you want the title of the sticky to be changed, shoot a PM.
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Originally Posted by Masala Man

.... Yes. I don't care about my accoutns on this website. You guys just ban people who don't kiss up to everyones asses.

You're kind of a cunt though
DeadNames
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this thread is off to a great start.

halo! is there a bulletin tonight?
Deadly Cyclone
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(04-04-2013, 05:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Masala Man

Ding ding ding.

I said it months before this crappy game came out and was banned. The lead designers and Frankie lied to us and I called them out and was ostracized. They deserve to have this happen to them:

Halo is dead. Gears stinks. Microsoft's multiplayer exclusives stink. Will probably go with the PS4 next gen and get all of Sony's good games AND COD instead of just playing COD on the xbox and having to pay for LIVE.

Because you're a dick about it.
Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:28 AM)

Originally Posted by orznge

help1 owns

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn right.
NobleGundam
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Halo 4... Its finished.
No. I think we're just getting started.
Nooooooo..
Tunavi
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(04-04-2013, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by DeadNames

I thought Dax had this?

Dax only had 1 post in the last thread...
Masala Man
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(04-04-2013, 05:29 AM)

Originally Posted by Tawpgun

You're kind of a cunt though


Of course I am. You guys tried beign tactful, and look how far that got you. Your favorite series is dead now. They can't take away flagnum and AAs and all this shit in Halo 5. Its here now to stay. The series is ruined.
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BUNGIE DAY 2013.

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Thread title's got some sting to it.
MaximumFlipFlop
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(04-04-2013, 05:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Masala Man

You're wasting your time here, too, bud. For what?

After this ban will you eagerly await approval to push out some more shitty posts? I honestly don't know what you're accomplishing here.
EagleBurnn
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(04-04-2013, 05:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Masala Man

Of course I am. You guys tried beign tactful, and look how far that got you. Your favorite series is dead now. They can't take away flagnum and AAs and all this shit in Halo 5. Its here now to stay. The series is ruined.

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Originally Posted by SltyPoison

Dax was also supposed to have the last OT. Just figured her getting this one would have been the right thing to do.

While I agree, unless we get mods involved I doubt that'll resolve itself peacefully. If we start forcing long-standing members out for no reason beyond personal prejudice then I think I'm going to end up leaving after a while, honestly.
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MaximumFlipFlop
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(04-04-2013, 05:33 AM)

Originally Posted by Tunavi

Dax only had 1 post in the last thread...

Dax was also supposed to have the last OT. Just figured her getting this one would have been the right thing to do.
Homeboyd
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Why didn't you shop a Bugs in the conference crowd? You know, just some ears sticking up or something...
YourExWife
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Ooooooookkkkaaaayyyyy then...

Streaming: http://twitch.tv/yourexwife
GAMERG0D
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Is the Halo 4 population really that low? I don't even think Halo Reach's population was this low 5 months after release.
Deadly Cyclone
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Originally Posted by Masala Man

Of course I am. You guys tried beign tactful, and look how far that got you. Your favorite series is dead now. They can't take away flagnum and AAs and all this shit in Halo 5. Its here now to stay. The series is ruined.

So leave.
neoism
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Originally Posted by A 3 Legged Goat



Let's get this debate started.

the gif is bad quality but some wizard should make it the 343 and the bungie logo... of course bugs is on the Bungle team.. :P I tried but gimp and my garbage skills at making gifs.. :/
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Booties
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Originally Posted by Homeboyd

Why didn't you shop a Bugs in the conference crowd? You know, just some ears sticking up or something...

I'm a busy man.
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Originally Posted by Franklinator

Mixmasterchief demands entertainment and it is our duty to provide it to him!

He's got front row seats at the MAC cannon show if he logs on now.
Tunavi
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Originally Posted by neoism

the gif is bad quietly but some wizard should make it the 343 and the bungie logo... of course bugs is on the Bungle team.. :P I tried but gimp and my garbage skills at making gifs.. :/

It wouldn't really make sense, no one likes 343.

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