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CyReN
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(04-05-2013, 12:10 AM)
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/04/bl...mike-morhaime/

IBB: We were just told the other day that by numbers, StarCraft is bigger than the NHL. If you look just as the last month, we had several live broadcasts, MLG Dallas with record breaking concurrent viewers. Even the Heart of the Swarm release was really successful, with high viewership numbers.

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The Everyman
(04-05-2013, 12:11 AM)
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suck it canada!

*canadian*
sangreal
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(04-05-2013, 12:12 AM)
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told by who? what numbers?
delta25
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(04-05-2013, 12:12 AM)
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Go leafs!!!!

*canucks fan*
Orca
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(04-05-2013, 12:12 AM)
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To be fair, Gary Bettman hasn't spent years trying to destroy StarCraft.
Seda
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(04-05-2013, 12:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by delta25

Go leafs!!!!

Blackhawks
thequickandthedead
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(04-05-2013, 12:13 AM)
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I'm having trouble believing this.
sleepykyo
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(04-05-2013, 12:14 AM)
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How popular is the NHL in comparison to the other sports leagues?
Last edited by sleepykyo; 04-05-2013 at 12:27 AM. Reason: Adjusted to reflect that NHL is league instead of a sport.
IcedTea
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(04-05-2013, 12:14 AM)
Yes. A single tournament stream is probably going to get more views than a given sports game. With sports, you can get quite a few games on at or near the same time, each one with their own viewers. Try putting 10 different Starcraft matches on 10 different streams, then compare the numbers.
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(04-05-2013, 12:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by sleepykyo

How popular is the NHL in comparison to the other sports?

i'm pretty sure it's way down there.
Venfayth
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(04-05-2013, 12:14 AM)
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Need actual numbers.
Sklorenz
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(04-05-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by sleepykyo

How popular is the NHL in comparison to the other sports?

I'm pretty sure more people watch golf.
Guevara
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(04-05-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Apples bigger than Oranges
border
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(04-05-2013, 12:16 AM)
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I assume he means that they have more concurrent viewers for a single tournament than for all the NHL games airing in a day?
sflufan
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(04-05-2013, 12:16 AM)
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Considering the NHL nearly killed itself this season, this is hardly a surprise.
DarthWoo
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(04-05-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Didn't MLS pass the NHL in US viewership a year or so back too?
Zuly
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(04-05-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Does anyone outside Canada care about hockey?
Levyne
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(04-05-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by DarthWoo

Didn't MLS pass the NHL in US viewership a year or so back too?

I remember that was some sort of weird metric I think, maybe stadium attendance per game?
OJdaKiller
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(04-05-2013, 12:18 AM)
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NHL isn't that popular. I'd assume....

Tennis
Golf
Nascar
Basketball
Football
Baseball
Soccer

Are all more popular.
ZealousD
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(04-05-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by thequickandthedead

I'm having trouble believing this.

If you add all the major Starcraft watching regions together, Korea, America, and Europe, then it's really not all that implausible. Especially Korea.
Red Blaster
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(04-05-2013, 12:18 AM)
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probably

how many non-hockey fans can even name what teams wayne gretzky played for
ghst
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(04-05-2013, 12:19 AM)
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don't be too sad meatbag sports, 17 millenniums was a respectable innings.
WanderingWind
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(04-05-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by IcedTea

Yes. A single tournament stream is probably going to get more views than a given sports game. With sports, you can get quite a few games on at or near the same time, each one with their own viewers. Try putting 10 different Starcraft matches on 10 different streams, then compare the numbers.

Twitch probably has 12-15 other streams going when the major tournaments are going down.

Still don't understand "e-sports" but the popularity is undeniable.
Enduin
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(04-05-2013, 12:20 AM)
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Hockey deserves way more love than it gets. It's a real shame to see such a great sport become so marginalized and ignored.
Miletius
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Originally Posted by OJdaKiller

NHL isn't that popular. I'd assume....

Tennis
Golf
Nascar
Basketball
Football
Baseball
Soccer

Are all more popular.

Instinctively i'd take soccer off the list in the US at least, but other than that I think that's all true.
ZealousD
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(04-05-2013, 12:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Red Blaster

probably

how many non-hockey fans can even name what teams wayne gretzky played for

All I could remember was "New York". I couldn't even remember the team's name. :(
mintylurb
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(04-05-2013, 12:22 AM)
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That isn't saying much. I'm sure more people follow some random cat youtube channel than hockey.
sangreal
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(04-05-2013, 12:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by DarthWoo

Didn't MLS pass the NHL in US viewership a year or so back too?

average attendance
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(04-05-2013, 12:24 AM)
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ZealousD
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(04-05-2013, 12:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by mintylurb

That isn't saying much. I'm sure more people follow some random cat youtube channel than hockey.

This cat video has 15 million views on it.

Game 6 of the 2012 Stanley Cup had 4.93 million views.
Crazymoogle
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(04-05-2013, 12:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZealousD

This cat video has 15 million views on it.

Game 6 of the 2012 Stanley Cup had 4.93 million views.

* in the US
mintylurb
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(04-05-2013, 12:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZealousD

This cat video has 15 million views on it.

Game 6 of the 2012 Stanley Cup had 4.93 million views.

Omg kitties! Looks like bish is back from cutting trees and making maple syrup.
Baconsammy
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(04-05-2013, 12:31 AM)

Originally Posted by sleepykyo

How popular is the NHL in comparison to the other sports leagues?

The NHL is barely considered a major sport in the US anymore. That's how far they've fallen. Major League Soccer is close to overtaking them in popularity...soccer.
Ondore
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(04-05-2013, 12:33 AM)
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All this means is that it's time to fire Gary Bettman. Into the sun.
Perkel
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(04-05-2013, 12:33 AM)

Originally Posted by Baconsammy

The NHL is barely considered a major sport in the US anymore. That's how far they've fallen. Major League Soccer is close to overtaking them in popularity...soccer.

It is only natural. Whole world loves football and US is catching up
SupaNaab
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(04-05-2013, 12:34 AM)
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As a Canadian, this is definitely not the case here. Hockey is insane here. I recall back in highschool having numerous teachers play the radio broadcasts of in-progress hockey games provided we were quiet. I know hockey isn't as popular in the US but it seems so alien when you're living here.
KillerMan91
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(04-05-2013, 12:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zuly

Does anyone outside Canada care about hockey?

Some European countries. Russia being the only big one.
Stet
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(04-05-2013, 12:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zuly

Does anyone outside Canada care about hockey?

American hockey fans I guess??
Minus_Me
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(04-05-2013, 12:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ondore

All this means is that it's time to fire Gary Bettman. Into the sun.

We need more teams located in the American South!
AppleSmack
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Originally Posted by SupaNaab

As a Canadian, this is definitely not the case here. Hockey is insane here. I recall back in highschool having numerous teachers play the radio broadcasts of in-progress hockey games provided we were quiet. I know hockey isn't as popular in the US but it seems so alien when you're living here.

As a Canadian I never found that to be the case. Maybe its more popular where you live but honestly I have met just as many football (NFL) fans as I have met hockey fans. In fact, probably more NFL fans.
grosvenor_92
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Originally Posted by sleepykyo

How popular is the NHL in comparison to the other sports leagues?

Not very at least in the US anyway
GoofsterStud
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(04-05-2013, 12:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zuly

Does anyone outside Canada care about hockey?

My friends and I use to get Season passes before the changes. Now we don't even bother.
ZealousD
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(04-05-2013, 12:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Crazymoogle

* in the US

Oh, lol. Well I guess Canada broke records in 2011 with 8.76 million. I guess if you figure that 2012 was in the ballpark.... then Maru still wins out.
lamaroo
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(04-05-2013, 12:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Baconsammy

The NHL is barely considered a major sport in the US anymore. That's how far they've fallen. Major League Soccer is close to overtaking them in popularity...soccer.

I'm pretty certain MLS isn't actually close to overtaking it. You're thinking of attendance numbers but it's not really comparable as the biggest hockey arena holds ~22,000 people, and ticket prices are higher on average.
firehawk12
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(04-05-2013, 12:38 AM)
So when does the Starcraft lockout start?
Goon Boon
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(04-05-2013, 12:38 AM)
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Do footballs have security that make them as heavy as lead if you're not in an NFL sanctioned field?
diffusionx
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(04-05-2013, 12:39 AM)
What isn't bigger than the NHL?
MarshMellow96
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As someone living in the UK, NHL is very difficult to watch live because it's on at like 1-3 am. The one channel that does actual broadcast NHL is Premier Sports, which hogs all the Stanley Cup games. That's before spending 80 NHL Gamecenter (which can't guarantee that you can watch all games) local broadcasts, national broadcasts, CBS games, etc, etc.

I want to watch Starcraft II matches? Twitch. browse. Starcraft II.
Baconsammy
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(04-05-2013, 12:40 AM)

Originally Posted by diffusionx

What isn't bigger than the NHL?

Curling. But they're close.
ShaneB
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(04-05-2013, 12:41 AM)
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Can I see these numbers? Is Starcraft a multi billion dollar a year industry? The question is asked in a way that it seems like it's based on viewership? I'm so confused. I have no doubt that Starcraft is big, but I'd like some context on these "numbers". If he means that people watching MLG are bigger than NHL Hockey Game X, than sure.

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