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Shiggy
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(04-18-2013, 12:26 PM)
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Frontier Development’s follow-up game to its award winning ThrillVille series, was Microsoft Zoo. A game that aimed to take the venerable Zoo Tycoon franchise in an exciting new direction.

Part zoo creation and part animal interaction, this 3rd person adventure was all charm and lay the groundwork for what would eventually become Kinectimals. Zoo was also the first game in Frontier to use the then relatively new Scaleform SDK for its GUI development.

Zoo was aimed as a family product and the art style of the UI was designed to target the game’s key demographics of families and children “tweens”. With the GUI artist coming from a marketing background and having worked with the similarly targeted brands of Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon, the goal was to design a GUI that was fun and inviting to use for kids and adults alike.

For the look of the GUI, inspiration was taken from junior arts, paper-craft and imaginary journals that could be kept by characters from adventures such as Treasure Island, Huckleberry Finn and Tarzan. Using mainly earthy hues, saturated colours and combined with hand drawn illustrations and woodcut style prints, Frontier aimed to create a rich and colourful interface that matched the vibrancy and charm of the Zoo game world.









With Kinect on the horizon, this project was followed by Animals, which was then to become Kinectimals.

ekim
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(04-18-2013, 12:27 PM)
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That looks adorable.
MasterBalls
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(04-18-2013, 12:28 PM)
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"You can use tease to entertain your animals"

HMMMMM.
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 12:30 PM)
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But how do I choose my gender?????
Shiggy
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(04-18-2013, 12:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by GavinGT

But where's the gender selector?????

Not sure if you are serious.
RiverBed
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(04-18-2013, 12:32 PM)
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is this akin to Sony's Afrika?
Steverulez
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(04-18-2013, 12:33 PM)
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That actually looks really good, shame it was cancelled.
iceatcs
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(04-18-2013, 12:33 PM)
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Thanks god. Now go back Elite and RCT project.

Originally Posted by Shiggy

Not sure if you are serious.

Well it is sexism problem. Why's that boy is blue, or girl is pink.
Estocolmo
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(04-18-2013, 12:33 PM)
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Gimmicks, more stupid gimmicks from Microsoft. Glad it got cancelled.
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 12:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shiggy

Not sure if you are serious.

Just pointing out that associating colors with genders reinforces gender stereotypes.
Bony Manifesto
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(04-18-2013, 12:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by GavinGT

But how do I choose my gender?????

The elephant in the room...
ekim
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(04-18-2013, 12:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by GavinGT

Just pointing out that associating colors with genders reinforces gender stereotypes.

You are really serious?
Matt_
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(04-18-2013, 12:35 PM)
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Makes me want to play Zoo Tycoon
Jb
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(04-18-2013, 12:36 PM)
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I don't see a source for this article. Did you write it yourself?
Hindle
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(04-18-2013, 12:36 PM)
I hope he's gone back to making The Outsider, the game was put on hold but from what I read it had so much potential.
Suzzopher
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(04-18-2013, 12:38 PM)
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I was so gutted when this was cancelled. It was a lot of fun :(
SparkTR
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(04-18-2013, 12:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hindle

I hope he's gone back to making The Outsider, the game was put on hold but from what I read it had so much potential.

He's developing Elite 4 for PC/Mac. The Outsider did look nice but without significant backing it was nothing more than a pipe dream.
i-Lo
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(04-18-2013, 12:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

You are really serious?

He is because it's a legitimate issue.
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 12:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

You are really serious?

I guess they should have gone with a football for the boy and a stovetop for the girl.
something fishy
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(04-18-2013, 12:40 PM)
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a friend was working on this. He was gutted it got shelved.
ekim
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Originally Posted by i-Lo

He is because it's a legitimate issue.

In general, yes. But using pink and blue in a kids game shouldn't be a problem....
Shiggy
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(04-18-2013, 12:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jay-B

I don't see a source for this article. Did you write it yourself?

Nope. But I usually don't link to artist's portfolios. I've been sitting on this for almost a year and thought it's ok to post as this person is no longer working at Frontier.
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 12:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

In general, yes. But using pink and blue in a kids game shouldn't be a problem....

It's precisely because it's a kid's game that it's a problem.
i-Lo
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(04-18-2013, 12:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

In general, yes. But using pink and blue in a kids game shouldn't be a problem....

Yes it absolutely should be because it engenders the stereotyping from that early age.
ilold
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(04-18-2013, 12:42 PM)
kinect viva pinata coming soon
CookTrain
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(04-18-2013, 12:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Shiggy

Not sure if you are serious.

When I saw the comment, I looked back at the image. Apparently the elephants are different colour, but I can't see the difference. So beyond the sexist stereotypes, even if he isn't serious, I am. Which one is which?
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(04-18-2013, 12:43 PM)
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Should have been called Microsoft Dangerous Creatures 2.
StifflersMum
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(04-18-2013, 12:43 PM)
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Wow, so he didn't release anything since 2006s "Thrillville".

Thats almost 7 years now.

Crazy business.
ekim
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(04-18-2013, 12:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by GavinGT

It's precisely because it's a kid's game that it's a problem.

Oh come on... let's remove everything from everywhere because it could be associated to any stereotype. Boys and cars, Girls and Barbies, Women getting pregnant, Guy loving a Girl...
Alx
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(04-18-2013, 12:44 PM)
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Nice concept, but I wonder if such games aimed at children shouldn't rather push things like wild parks rather than regular zoos (or maybe it does, but in that case the name is not appropriate). I mean, zoos are fine and all, there are many animals I would never have seen in real life were it not for them, but it's still not an ideal way to take care of wild animals.
Shiggy
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(04-18-2013, 12:46 PM)
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I didn't know that blue for boys and pink for girls was much of an issue nowadays, must have missed that. I don't see much of a problem with these kind of gender stereotypes to be honest. Does this colour thing harm anyone?


Originally Posted by Suzzopher

I was so gutted when this was cancelled. It was a lot of fun :(

Originally Posted by something fishy

a friend was working on this. He was gutted it got shelved.

heh, is that your friend? ;D



Wow, so he didn't release anything since 2006s "Thrillville".

Thats almost 7 years now.

Crazy business.

Lost Winds, Kinectimals, Kinect Disneyland, and some others (?)
ekim
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(04-18-2013, 12:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shiggy

I didn't know that blue for boys and pink for girls was much of an issue nowadays, must have missed that. I don't see much of a problem with these kind of gender stereotypes to be honest.

Because people make a problem out of it although it's a none.
Hindle
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(04-18-2013, 12:48 PM)

Originally Posted by SparkTR

He's developing Elite 4 for PC/Mac. The Outsider did look nice but without significant backing it was nothing more than a pipe dream.

I'm thinking MS may fund the game.
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 12:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

Oh come on... let's remove everything from everywhere because it could be associated to any stereotype. Boys and cars, Girls and Barbies, Women getting pregnant, Guy loving a Girl...

I'd be less upset with the screenshot if it didn't rely completely on this stereotype to convey which is which.
i-Lo
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(04-18-2013, 12:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

Oh come on... let's remove everything from everywhere because it could be associated to any stereotype. Boys and cars, Girls and Barbies, Women getting pregnant, Guy loving a Girl...

And what's wrong with trying to engender a society without gender stereotypes? Are you afraid that you'll lose your identity because some of it is tied to associations you see as inherently masculine?
Kabouter
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(04-18-2013, 12:50 PM)
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Gender discussion stops here.
Always-honest
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(04-18-2013, 12:52 PM)
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i would love a game like that for my son next gen.

Like the icons by the way.
i-Lo
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(04-18-2013, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kabouter

Gender discussion stops here.

Fine.

The game looks beautiful. Shame it got cancelled. Perhaps it'll reemerge in some form on xb3 and be kinect 2 game. Can't wait to "tease" the animals.
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(04-18-2013, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by StifflersMum

Wow, so he didn't release anything since 2006s "Thrillville".

Thats almost 7 years now.

Crazy business.

Who, Braben? He released a bunch of games since then.
SparkTR
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(04-18-2013, 12:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hindle

I'm thinking MS may fund the game.

Anything's possibly, but nothing suggests they will at this stage. More likely they'll revive this game.
crazyjah2003
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(04-18-2013, 12:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Estocolmo

Gimmicks, more stupid gimmicks from Microsoft. Glad it got cancelled.

Getting this instead of Kinectimals would seem like a very good deal to me. I would expect Viva Pinata to be another starting point as well as Thrillville.

The name and concept "Microsoft Zoo" would have had a lot more potential like expanding to windows. Kinectimals did not appeal to me at all, but the Kinect ties may have clouded my opinion of it.
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ekim
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(04-18-2013, 12:58 PM)
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Sorry Kab! :(
Dmax3901
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(04-18-2013, 12:59 PM)
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Thought this said David Bowie's Zoo game, got excited.
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(04-18-2013, 01:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by crazyjah2003

Getting this instead of Kinectimals would seem like a very good deal to me. I would expect Viva Pinata would have been their starting point.

The name and concept "Microsoft Zoo" would have had a lot more potential like expanding to windows; Kinectimals is the gimmick we got instead of MSZOO or even Animals.

Kinectimals was a good game, gorgeous to look at, and very cute. I wouldn't trade it for this, but I'd be glad if we'd gotten both.
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(04-18-2013, 01:09 PM)
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looks like a kinect game.. meh
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 01:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dmax3901

Thought this said David Bowie's Zoo game, got excited.

He's in a cage in this game, close enough.
Shiggy
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(04-18-2013, 01:12 PM)
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looks like a kinect game.. meh

It used the Xbox 360 controller. Did you even look at the screenshots?
GavinGT
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(04-18-2013, 01:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shiggy

It used the Xbox 360 controller. Did you even look at the screenshots?

Was there no pressure to integrate Kinect? I don't know how closely you're linked to the project.
Shiggy
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(04-18-2013, 01:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by GavinGT

Was there no pressure to integrate Kinect? I don't know how closely you're linked to the project.

From what I understand, this was cancelled and work on another animal project was started when Microsoft put full force behind Kinect. Similar things happened with other Microsoft-published projects, they all either got cancelled or completely reworked (and then either released or cancelled heh). I guess we have some other people on the board who could provide some better information about this case.
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(04-18-2013, 01:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina

looks like a kinect game.. meh

Did you even bother to look at the pictures. Before posting?

Anyway Kinectimals was one of the better Kinect games. I wonder if FD is working on anything for MS's new system.

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