Woah. Thank you very much for the warning.Originally Posted by Morrigan Targaryen
Yesterday I ran into a nasty, game-breaking bug. Only reverting to an earlier save from the PS+ cloud saved my game. Here's what happened:
- I equipped the Augment "Tenacity" on my Arisen (which has a chance to revive the Arisen with 1 HP when dying);
- I got trapped by Exequy (was foolishly trying to pick up a pawn that was stupidly standing in the red circle, but wasn't fast enough xD) and died;
- Revived with 1HP, but the game basically treated the Arisen as dead: pawns still fought enemies and followed me around, but didn't heal me anymore, or buff or anything, and enemies ignored the Arisen completely and only attacked the pawns;
- I thought it was an odd glitch so I warped back to the BBI entrance (Mistake #1, as it auto-saved) to use the Riftstone and re-hire the pawns (Mistake #2, as it auto-checkpoint-saved);
- No change in pawn behaviour. I jumped into the water, nothing. I ran to an enemy and let him kill me, nothing; hitting "Retry" only made me spawn with the same glitched status;
- Quit the game and reloaded, still nothing. So both my Save slot and Checkpoint slots were overwritten with this behaviour;
- I saw no way to undo that behaviour, so I ended up reverting from a cloud save from PS+.
So basically, if your Tenacity is ever triggered and your pawns treat you as dead: DO NOT SAVE, Godsbane -> Retry or load a Checkpoint save or Quit through XMB (if you don't have the Godsbane and your last Checkpoint is too far away), otherwise your game might be permanently broken. :S
I'll carry your pawn later when I get back home, I am still running around Everfall leveling up as Sorcerer before tackling BBI, I am currently level... 65, IIRC. Maybe I'll just jump into BBI later on, but just want to get few Magic stat up before turning my guy to a Magick Archer.Originally Posted by OatmealMu
Looking for some of that delicious RC while I stumble through Bitterblack Isle avoiding Death. Willing to hire pawns as well. I promise to send them back half-naked and drunk.
PSN: OatmealMu
Level: 73
Pawn: Treal
Class: Warrior
Inclination: Challenger, Scather (Until she changes her mind and I force feed her elixir)
But since you're a warrior, might I request that you put specific set of skills? Corona Slash and War Cry, and on the last slot preferably no charge-up skill (definitely no Arc of Might/Retribution please...). Oh, and Sinew + Ferocity in your core. Sorry if this seems like too much of a request :)
My PSN is LaughingBanana. Anyone else, feel free to add me as well. My pawn mainly levels as Sorcerer, but she is fully trained as a Mage as well and thus can be changed to that if necessary for an attacker/healer pawn.
Your at the same point as me. BBI is what you should do and its not easy.Originally Posted by zerokoolpsx
Just beat the game. The dragon was a complete joke for a fight. My warrior arisen and pawn only had trouble when he flew obviously. My rooted gloom did tons of damage to it. So now I'm in post game at level 57. Some quest and BBI is all that is left? Who did you get for your beloved? At first, I got Caxton, then I lowered his affinity and got Aelinore. I don't want her either. Guess I'm stuck with Aelinore. Ugh.
Originally Posted by zerokoolpsx
Just beat the game. The dragon was a complete joke for a fight. My warrior arisen and pawn only had trouble when he flew obviously. My rooted gloom did tons of damage to it. So now I'm in post game at level 57. Some quest and BBI is all that is left? Who did you get for your beloved? At first, I got Caxton, then I lowered his affinity and got Aelinore. I don't want her either. Guess I'm stuck with Aelinore. Ugh.
Same here (I got Mercedes on the first try, felt more satisfying than defeating any dragon) and, I have to say, BBI might as well be the real game. It's absurd how much more fun I'm having, and the loot is amazing as well. The problem is that every time I start the game I have to spend about half an hour just to find decent pawns because Guardians will get me killed...Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
Your at the same point as me. BBI is what you should do and its not easy.
Might as well post my pawn, I'm going to need RC for all that cursed stuff.
PSN: Herlaking
Pawn: Rea
Level: ~60
Class: Ranger
Inclination: Scather/Challenger
Feedback is appreciated, especially regarding skills and equipment (I tried every possible combination but can't for the life of me get her "rented").
Kinda a dumb thing but it matters to me, but I love the character creator. A lot of times I have a hard time making decent looking black people but it's pretty easy in this one. I usually end up with some goofy looking dude or a what's basically a white girl with a tan but I could go way darker and still get good results.
My only complaint is that i hate the mage outfits. I can't get my pawn in anything decent looking. My main character is like some super bad ass female black Strider with a long cape and ninja pants/shoes but my mage looks like some super conservative little house on the prairie Laura Ingalls WIlder woman and I can't come across anything better. She murders people so I'm happy with that aspect, but I'm constantly on the look out for something that doesn't look as lame.
I felt so sorry for my girl after the first run, she ended up with freaking Fournival!Originally Posted by zerokoolpsx
Just beat the game. The dragon was a complete joke for a fight. My warrior arisen and pawn only had trouble when he flew obviously. My rooted gloom did tons of damage to it. So now I'm in post game at level 57. Some quest and BBI is all that is left? Who did you get for your beloved? At first, I got Caxton, then I lowered his affinity and got Aelinore. I don't want her either. Guess I'm stuck with Aelinore. Ugh.
So I made it up to her in NG+ by first having her shack up with the hot Duchess and then end up with Quina as the love interest in the end. Selene is hanging out at her house too so they are all one happy family.
I think I found an animistic robe that looked pretty decent in the harpy mountain. I put that, black leggings, an eyepatch and a wolf pelt on my mage before calling it a day. Otherwise, it was woolen puritan-wear or dresses made of dyed bandages. I didn't mind the dalmatica but it's kind of boring.Originally Posted by Senor Kami
My only complaint is that i hate the mage outfits. I can't get my pawn in anything decent looking. My main character is like some super bad ass female black Strider with a long cape and ninja pants/shoes but my mage looks like some super conservative little house on the prairie Laura Ingalls WIlder woman and I can't come across anything better. She murders people so I'm happy with that aspect, but I'm constantly on the look out for something that doesn't look as lame.
There may be better-looking mage armor to be found in BBI (at that point I was hiring my magic users). Maybe. The velvet tent and unicorn horn I purified there didn't indicate mage fashion was going anywhere I'd like. . .
Yessss, I needed a decent Ranger.Same here (I got Mercedes on the first try, felt more satisfying than defeating any dragon) and, I have to say, BBI might as well be the real game. It's absurd how much more fun I'm having, and the loot is amazing as well. The problem is that every time I start the game I have to spend about half an hour just to find decent pawns because Guardians will get me killed...
Might as well post my pawn, I'm going to need RC for all that cursed stuff.
PSN: Herlaking
Pawn: Rea
Level: ~60
Class: Ranger
Inclination: Scather/Challenger
Feedback is appreciated, especially regarding skills and equipment (I tried every possible combination but can't for the life of me get her "rented").
Also warning, my pawn Kaine is probably a Guardian again.
Fucking eyeball monster. BS got him down to his last health bar and then I get one shotted by some fireball blast. WTf is this shit. I'm sorry this is what I hate about DD. Warrior: no shield, well at least I can dodge right....nope, well at least I have a shit ton health, lol no, one shots everywhere. -_____-
That big spherical eye boss?Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
Fucking eyeball monster. BS got him down to his last health bar and then I get one shotted by some fireball blast. WTf is this shit. I'm sorry this is what I hate about DD. Warrior: no shield, well at least I can dodge right....nope, well at least I have a shit ton health, lol no, one shots everywhere. -_____-
Some tips if you want them:
- You know those spikes that auto target you and come out of the ground? If you stand under the boss then they will hit it for good damage
- When he starts charging up that big beam thing, quickly destroy the 4 stand thingies and you will be able to use the laser on the boss for great damage. He will then get stunned and his eye will pop out, you can deal huge damage at this point.
- Those throwable bombs work great against it, just one takes out a laser stand and good damage against the eye.
Thanks, didn't know you could use the magic blast against him.Previously I was using his spike attack against him to get his eye to come down. I've got the strategy down its just the amount of times I have been instakilled despite having 2k+ health is pissing me off. You see that fireball move the tentacles do and spit out like 4 fireballs. He spams that shit and that kills me like instantly unless I have pretty much full health.That big spherical eye boss?
Some tips if you want them:
- You know those spikes that auto target you and come out of the ground? If you stand under the boss then they will hit it for good damage
- When he starts charging up that big beam thing, quickly destroy the 4 stand thingies and you will be able to use the laser on the boss for great damage. He will then get stunned and his eye will pop out, you can deal huge damage at this point.
- Those throwable bombs work great against it, just one takes out a laser stand and good damage against the eye.
Though I am treating this like a Souls game in the sense that armour doesn't matter too much. Is that okay? I have Guts outfit with a dragon leather vest but nothings levelled up or dragon forged.
That is definitely not okay lol, you have to bring the best you have to BBI. That's why a lot of ppl recommend to go there after getting some good stuff in the end game and Everfall.Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
Thanks, didn't know you could use the magic blast against him.Previously I was using his spike attack against him to get his eye to come down. I've got the strategy down its just the amount of times I have been instakilled despite having 2k+ health is pissing me off. You see that fireball move the tentacles do and spit out like 4 fireballs. He spams that shit and that kills me like instantly unless I have pretty much full health.
Though I am treating this like a Souls game in the sense that armour doesn't matter too much. Is that okay? I have Guts outfit with a dragon leather vest but nothings levelled up or dragon forged.
Personally I level up weapons and armour the first opportunity I get, as high as possible at the time. Pretty much all of it is dragon forged at this point (I dressed up my character based on looks about half way through the main game and she has been sporting pretty much the same stuff since, on new game plus now and cleared BBI twice).
So yeah, run to the nearest smithy and get equipped proper.
Also be on the look out for the Secret Augmentation called Tenacity, basically gives you a chance against getting one shot killed (instead of dying you stay alive with 1 HP).
As for the fireball move I was using an Assassin so just rolled my way through. Isn't there some highly invincible move the Warrior can use?
Also consider getting some pawns that can buff you, my Mage does a good job of healing me and casting buffs (like Spellscreen, which gives all sorts of defense buffs).
It's very useful but it can sometimes cause a game-breaking glitch, so be careful.Also be on the look out for the Secret Augmentation called Tenacity, basically gives you a chance against getting one shot killed (instead of dying you stay alive with 1 HP).
See more details in my post above.
Been using it for quite a while now and not a single issue on my end tbh.Originally Posted by Morrigan Targaryen
It's very useful but it can sometimes cause a game-breaking glitch, so be careful.
See more details in my post above.
Oh yeah, its good to know for sure.Originally Posted by Morrigan Targaryen
It's probably a rare glitch, but it's a good thing to be aware of it, don't you think? I lost an entire night's worth of progress, and if I didn't have PS+ my entire game would be broken. If I had known about the glitch I'd have been much safer 'cause I'd just have Godsbane'd right after it triggered.
The game does have some bugs here and there. The one I experienced was my character falling through the floor and just flailing around in empty space for a while. I was about to reset but the game luckily corrected itself and 'teleported' my character back onto the map.
got all that i wanted from everfall
trying to decide if i should go into new game+ next, or do bbi
sooooooooo disappointed that bloodlust and autonomy got nerfed ; ;
You're going to be booored in NG+, do Bitterblack - it will still have challenge for you.lv112 sorcerer
got all that i wanted from everfall
trying to decide if i should go into new game+ next, or do bbi
sooooooooo disappointed that bloodlust and autonomy got nerfed ; ;
I think the only reason to do NG+ is if someone's a quest completionist. Otherwise it's best to start from scratch on hard if you want to do the story again.
guess i'll head to bbi then
Okay, here's my feedback. I haven't played with your pawn yet, mind, just hired her and this is from what I can see. Your inclination is perfect for a Ranger, but surprisingly your pawn does not have any of the popular core skills that synergize incredibly well with Ranger: sinew and vehemence from fighter, plus bastion and clout from warrior. At the very least get clout and bastion in there... although in my opinion sinew is a very strong case too, and incredibly helpful because often you just can't count on a healer to heal HP effectively and must resort on items (and a must if you want your pawn to utilize Ranger's arguably most powerful back-up items, which is Blast Arrows).Same here (I got Mercedes on the first try, felt more satisfying than defeating any dragon) and, I have to say, BBI might as well be the real game. It's absurd how much more fun I'm having, and the loot is amazing as well. The problem is that every time I start the game I have to spend about half an hour just to find decent pawns because Guardians will get me killed...
Might as well post my pawn, I'm going to need RC for all that cursed stuff.
PSN: Herlaking
Pawn: Rea
Level: ~60
Class: Ranger
Inclination: Scather/Challenger
Feedback is appreciated, especially regarding skills and equipment (I tried every possible combination but can't for the life of me get her "rented").
Ditch longevity (that extra health is so small it doesn't even matter), trajectory (there is simply no place in BBI in particular that require a Ranger's arrow to "fly farther"--most encounters are in close range and even the large battle fields the usual range without trajectory is more than enough), morbidity, and *especially* Radiance--there is simply very little to no situation where "extra light" is useful, and once you face off against dragons and golems and the bosses creatures in BBI or elsewhere that slot that you used for Radiance is much better used for something else such as Clout and/or Vehemence or Bastion. From Ranger's line of core skills, Efficacy, for instance, is a much better choice (especially paired with Sinew)
Oh, and arguably, precision too. Not worth it, IMO.
Also, I don't see a Hundred Kisses in your dagger skills... what's up with that? I would recommend for you to ditch spiral arrow, and arguably crippling arrow too. For Ranger pawns, I would argue that sticking just tenfold arrow and no other skills on the available slot is a better choice than Tenfold Arrow + skill + skill... but anyways, up to you.
Just a few suggestions and opinion :)
Told you so about warriors in BBI :POriginally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
Yessss, I needed a decent Ranger.
Also warning, my pawn Kaine is probably a Guardian again.
Fucking eyeball monster. BS got him down to his last health bar and then I get one shotted by some fireball blast. WTf is this shit. I'm sorry this is what I hate about DD. Warrior: no shield, well at least I can dodge right....nope, well at least I have a shit ton health, lol no, one shots everywhere. -_____-
I haven't played in months. Bet I have a shit ton of RC waiting for me.
I took her on a Cursed Dragon run. It didn't go well. She died. A lot.Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
I have a lvl 50 mage.
Add me if you want: Xx_Birdman_xX101
I'm not surprised really. Mages and sorcerers don't mix well with dragonkin in my experience. Dragonkin are big, fast and have a wide attack radius. It's hard to charge spells when a Cursed Dragon whips its' tail around everytime I dodge a charge attack. Poor Kaine got more airtime than the dragon.
Volpa did really well, though. Died once and managed to shoot the dragon out of the air a few times. Makes me want to switch my warrior to a ranger at level 100. Anyway, I hope you both got a lot of RC.
Made it through the second phase(?) of BBI, and beat the Dark Bishop. Was a really drawn out battle since I was using a vocation rank 6 MA with the Dragon's Quickening bow. My damage output is pitiful atm, even with it dragonforged. I want to get the BBI magick bows but it seems I might have to wait a while to have a chance at them, since bitterblack weapon lv 2-3 only seem to drop from specific enemies and specific chests later on. I'm gonna take a breather and try to figure out how I want to proceed.
The problem I'm having so far is my damage output is so low on both assassin and MA that it's almost inconceivable (I run out of wakestones and healing items before even knocking off two health bars) to beat certain bosses (Condemned Gorecyclops and Cursed Dragon in particular). Should I continue on through the final phase and THEN go back to fight these bosses? Or do they drop enough good loot to warrant another stab at it?
But of course, you can't honestly expect to be able to beat Condemned Gorecyclops and Cursed Dragons *comfortably* in your first run of BBI. If you notice, there is *no* encounter in BBI against Condemned Gorecyclops/Cursed Dragon that you cannot escape from... care to guess why? :) (The Cursed Dragon the Bishop brings is a severely weakened version, and speaking of, calling him the Dark Bishop is not really apt considering he is *holy*-based, hahaha)Just a quick update from my adventures:
Made it through the second phase(?) of BBI, and beat the Dark Bishop. Was a really drawn out battle since I was using a vocation rank 6 MA with the Dragon's Quickening bow. My damage output is pitiful atm, even with it dragonforged. I want to get the BBI magick bows but it seems I might have to wait a while to have a chance at them, since bitterblack weapon lv 2-3 only seem to drop from specific enemies and specific chests later on. I'm gonna take a breather and try to figure out how I want to proceed.
The problem I'm having so far is my damage output is so low on both assassin and MA that it's almost inconceivable (I run out of wakestones and healing items before even knocking off two health bars) to beat certain bosses (Condemned Gorecyclops and Cursed Dragon in particular). Should I continue on through the final phase and THEN go back to fight these bosses? Or do they drop enough good loot to warrant another stab at it?
Don't force yourself to beat each and every Condemned Gorecyclops/Cursed Dragons that you encounter the 1st run, although you *can* do it but it will take a long, long while. Just like Death. They're meant to be fought later on once you get better equipment... well, if you want to beat them *comfortably*, that is.
MA is actually very powerful in BBI. Many enemies are weak against lightning, and Richochet Hunter *absolutely destroys* stuff. Condemned Gorecyclops are weak against ice, and whaddyaknow, MA's strongest attack, Six/Ninefold Bolt, is ice :D For Cursed Dragon, if you can don't use Holy--use Fire instead. Just don't use Six/Ninefold bolt against undead creatures like Cursed Dragon since undead resist Ice. Hunter Bolt is a good alternative.
Glad she was helpful.Originally Posted by OatmealMu
Volpa did really well, though. Died once and managed to shoot the dragon out of the air a few times. Makes me want to switch my warrior to a ranger at level 100. Anyway, I hope you both got a lot of RC.
I took your warrior with me last night (first time I've played in months). We warmed up in everfall where the archydra's steamroll move prompted complex questions such as "wait, how do I run again?"
I forgot BBI was different the second time through, so when I got into that first wide open area, I was taken aback by surprise lightning dragon in da face. It went down pretty easy, just took forever. I'll hire your pawn again next time I play.
I will persevere. My sword is too big for me to be afraid of charging into bosses.Originally Posted by Laughing Banana
Okay, here's my feedback. I haven't played with your pawn yet, mind, just hired her and this is from what I can see. Your inclination is perfect for a Ranger, but surprisingly your pawn does not have any of the popular core skills that synergize incredibly well with Ranger: sinew and vehemence from fighter, plus bastion and clout from warrior. At the very least get clout and bastion in there... although in my opinion sinew is a very strong case too, and incredibly helpful because often you just can't count on a healer to heal HP effectively and must resort on items (and a must if you want your pawn to utilize Ranger's arguably most powerful back-up items, which is Blast Arrows).
Ditch longevity (that extra health is so small it doesn't even matter), trajectory (there is simply no place in BBI in particular that require a Ranger's arrow to "fly farther"--most encounters are in close range and even the large battle fields the usual range without trajectory is more than enough), morbidity, and *especially* Radiance--there is simply very little to no situation where "extra light" is useful, and once you face off against dragons and golems and the bosses creatures in BBI or elsewhere that slot that you used for Radiance is much better used for something else such as Clout and/or Vehemence or Bastion. From Ranger's line of core skills, Efficacy, for instance, is a much better choice (especially paired with Sinew)
Oh, and arguably, precision too. Not worth it, IMO.
Also, I don't see a Hundred Kisses in your dagger skills... what's up with that? I would recommend for you to ditch spiral arrow, and arguably crippling arrow too. For Ranger pawns, I would argue that sticking just tenfold arrow and no other skills on the available slot is a better choice than Tenfold Arrow + skill + skill... but anyways, up to you.
Just a few suggestions and opinion :)
Told you so about warriors in BBI :P
I'm sorry. She did change back to Guardian. Sometimes I do wonder if she is any help at all. For instance I get blinded and am waiting for her to cure me. She kept getting hit by some tentacles and I couldn't see so I couldn't kill the tentacles and she wouldn't either. By the time she casted the spell, my blindness was gone.Originally Posted by OatmealMu
I took her on a Cursed Dragon run. It didn't go well. She died. A lot.
I'm not surprised really. Mages and sorcerers don't mix well with dragonkin in my experience. Dragonkin are big, fast and have a wide attack radius. It's hard to charge spells when a Cursed Dragon whips its' tail around everytime I dodge a charge attack. Poor Kaine got more airtime than the dragon.
Volpa did really well, though. Died once and managed to shoot the dragon out of the air a few times. Makes me want to switch my warrior to a ranger at level 100. Anyway, I hope you both got a lot of RC.
Did she have a gold sword? I was experimenting with silencing magic using enemies and found it didn't work well on a pawn.Glad she was helpful.
I took your warrior with me last night (first time I've played in months). We warmed up in everfall where the archydra's steamroll move prompted complex questions such as "wait, how do I run again?"
I forgot BBI was different the second time through, so when I got into that first wide open area, I was taken aback by surprise lightning dragon in da face. It went down pretty easy, just took forever. I'll hire your pawn again next time I play.
It's no big deal. She did cast some healing spells, so it wasn't a total loss. I'm thinking a couple of striders and rangers might be more suited for dragon killing. I just have hard time going into a dungeon without a healer.Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
I'm sorry. She did change back to Guardian. Sometimes I do wonder if she is any help at all. For instance I get blinded and am waiting for her to cure me. She kept getting hit by some tentacles and I couldn't see so I couldn't kill the tentacles and she wouldn't either. By the time she casted the spell, my blindness was gone.
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