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Parmenides
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(04-24-2013, 08:18 AM)
NINTENDO - Consolidated Results for the Year Ended March 31, 2013

(reported in Millions of yen)

1 USD ~ 99.66 yen
1 Euro ~ 129.55 yen


Net Sales ---> 635,422

Operating Loss ---> 36,410

Net Income ---> 7,099


Wii U Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      3.06     0.39       3.45    3.45



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      11.69    1.73       13.42   13.42
3DS Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY     LTD

FY 2010/11      -        -         -      3.61      3.61    3.61

FY 2011/12     0.71     2.36      8.36    2.10      13.53   17.13       

FY 2012/13     1.86     3.20      7.65    1.24      13.95   31.09



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY     LTD

FY 2010/11      -        -         -      9.43      9.43    9.43

FY 2011/12     4.53     3.60     19.91    7.96      36.00   45.42    

FY 2012/13     7.39     11.64    20.53    10.05     49.61   95.03
Wii Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      3.19     2.65      5.84     5.84

FY 2007/08     3.43     3.90     6.96     4.32      18.61    24.45   

FY 2008/09     5.17     4.93     10.42    5.43      25.95    50.39

FY 2009/10     2.23     3.53     11.30    3.48      20.53    70.93

FY 2010/11     3.04     1.93     8.75     1.36      15.08    86.01

FY 2011/12     1.56     1.79     5.61     0.88      9.84     95.85

FY 2012/13     0.71     0.61     2.21     0.45      3.98     99.84

                 

Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      17.51    11.33     28.84    28.84

FY 2007/08     15.98    20.99    47.38    35.25     119.60   148.44  

FY 2008/09     40.41    41.00    82.37    40.80     204.58   353.02

FY 2009/10     31.07    45.14    80.43    35.17     191.81   544.83 

FY 2010/11     28.17    37.04    85.33    20.72     171.26   716.09

FY 2011/12     13.44    23.01    52.61    13.31     102.37   818.46 

FY 2012/13     8.47     15.27    21.34    5.53      50.61    869.06
NDS Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      2.84     2.43      5.27     5.27

FY 2005/06     1.38     2.19     5.59     2.30      11.46    16.73

FY 2006/07     4.54     5.55     8.79     4.68      23.56    40.29

FY 2007/08     6.98     6.37     11.15    5.81      30.31    70.60   

FY 2008/09     6.94     6.79     11.89    5.56      31.18    101.78

FY 2009/10     5.97     5.73     11.65    3.76      27.11    128.89

FY 2010/11     3.15     3.54     9.01     1.82      17.52    146.42

FY 2011/12     1.44     1.14     2.06     0.46      5.10     151.52

FY 2012/13     0.54     0.44     1.17     0.20      2.35     153.87



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      5.01     5.48      10.49    10.49

FY 2005/06     5.32     7.98     22.60    14.05     49.95    60.44

FY 2006/07     18.35    24.81    50.64    29.75     123.55   183.98

FY 2007/08     34.26    41.24    71.39    38.73     185.62   369.61   

FY 2008/09     36.59    48.43    78.76    33.53     197.31   566.92

FY 2009/10     29.09    42.06    50.23    30.21     151.59   718.5

FY 2010/11     22.42    32.42    44.15    21.99     120.98   839.48

FY 2011/12     12.13    16.86    22.21    9.62      60.82    900.31

FY 2012/13     8.48     8.82     12.94    3.14      33.38    933.69

FY 2013/14 Nintendo Forecast (Unit: Million)

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April 24, 2013

                3DS      NDS      Wii       Wii U
	
Hardware       18.00      -       2.00      9.00   

Software       80.00     10.00    20.00     38.00

FY 2012/13 Nintendo Forecast (Unit: Million)

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January 30, 2013

                3DS      NDS      Wii       Wii U
	
Hardware       15.00     2.30     4.00      4.00   

Software       50.00     33.00    50.00     16.00   

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October 24, 2012

                3DS      NDS      Wii       Wii U
	
Hardware       17.50     2.50     5.00      5.50   

Software       70.00     37.00    50.50     24.00  

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April 26, 2012

                3DS      NDS   (Wii + Wii U)
	
Hardware       18.50     2.50     10.50        

Software       73.00     37.00    70.00
Last edited by Parmenides; 04-24-2013 at 10:34 AM.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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NDS retires? GG
shinra-bansho
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Wait, they're only forecasting 4M Wii U for the next fiscal year? EDIT: NVM misread. I thought there was a separate forecast for FYE Mar-14.
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(04-24-2013, 08:20 AM)
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Owing to the fact that "Wii U" hardware sales have a negative impact on Nintendo's profits, the operating loss was 36.4 billion yen. As a result of exchange gains totalling 39.5 billion yen due to the depreciation of the yen, ordinary income was 10.4 billion yen and net income was 7 billion yen.

Pretty crazy how much of an impact the exchange rate had.
Kangi
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(04-24-2013, 08:20 AM)
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Come on Wii, you can do it. Just a little more.
1st Course
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(04-24-2013, 08:21 AM)
For the new thread:

Originally Posted by 1st Course

Nintendo hardware and software sales data updated:





StreetsAhead
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(04-24-2013, 08:21 AM)
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http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/sales/software/3ds.html

Nice to get some numbers. Kid Icarus over a million.
Tagg9
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(04-24-2013, 08:21 AM)
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I don't get it. The forecast shows 0.00 for Wii U?
Hero
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(04-24-2013, 08:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kazerei

Pretty crazy how much of an impact the exchange rate had.

A lot of their losses or lowered forecasts over the past four years have been because of how strong the yen was.
Kangi
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(04-24-2013, 08:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/sales/software/3ds.html

Nice to get some numbers. Kid Icarus over a million.

About time.
specialguy
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(04-24-2013, 08:23 AM)
390,000 wii u's shipped worldwide last quarter. yep, those awful sales showing up.

it isn't currently getting better, either.

that averages 130k/month. current sales may not be much better, 60k usa, 30k eu, 30k jp/month or something? they may ship 500k/quarter (rounding up as usual for ship>recorded sales) on an ongoing basis but not much more.
Last edited by specialguy; 04-24-2013 at 08:25 AM.
Canis lupus
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(04-24-2013, 08:23 AM)
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2m WiiUs less than they initially forecasted.
sense
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(04-24-2013, 08:23 AM)
no forecast for wii u huh
cw_sasuke
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3D Land being the best selling 3DS game is awesome, Luigi also already a million seller.
StreetsAhead
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(04-24-2013, 08:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tagg9

I don't get it. The forecast shows 0.00 for Wii U?

Should be 9M hardware, 38M software
shinobi602
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I know the Wii U is doing badly month to month, but 3.5 million units doesn't seem so bad in 5 months, I guess?
BowieZ
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(04-24-2013, 08:24 AM)
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So wait, there were no billions of losses? Or ami reading it wrong
guit3457
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(04-24-2013, 08:24 AM)
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So weird..they have even more money in cash and assets.

or I'm reading it worng?
Colonel Mustard
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Nice Kid Icarus sales. Hopefully enough to keep the franchise as a staple and encourage Nintendo to revisit other franchises.

New F Zero, Star Tropics and Mach Rider plz.
Tagg9
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(04-24-2013, 08:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

Should be 9M hardware, 38M software

Ah, looks like the post was just updated.
Gamer @ Heart
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(04-24-2013, 08:24 AM)
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Whoa, tennis did better than I thought. The lack of brain training on that list is notable. Love that Luigi is so high so soon. I expect that at 3 million after this christmas

Is the exchange rate expected to get better or worse in the next couple months? Do reliable indicates even exist for that sort of thing?
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wrowa
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Originally Posted by sense

no forecast for wii u huh

They expect to sell 9 million Wii Us in the next fiscal year according to the other thread. I think the OP just made a mistake.
HawthorneKitty
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Originally Posted by Kangi

Come on Wii, you can do it. Just a little more.

dat .16
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

I know the Wii U is doing badly month to month, but 3.5 million units doesn't seem so bad in 5 months, I guess?

It was only 5 months but it couldve been better. I think 360 did 6m units its first year.

edit: Wii is gonna hit 100 one of these days
Striek
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(04-24-2013, 08:26 AM)
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Pretty much even poorer results than their Jan forecast right across the board.

Finally seems like they set an achievable 3DS forecast for once though with this years slate.
Gamer @ Heart
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(04-24-2013, 08:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by BowieZ

So wait, there were no billions of losses? Or ami reading it wrong

That was a projection by an outside firm based in yen. The loss they predicted was less than 200 mil. I think You and a lot of other people over misread that thread title.
specialguy
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(04-24-2013, 08:26 AM)

Originally Posted by StreetsAhead

Should be 9M hardware, 38M software

even that low number that sounds absurd given current sales...they better hope for big boosts.
shinra-bansho
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

I know the Wii U is doing badly month to month, but 3.5 million units doesn't seem so bad in 5 months, I guess?

The very low shipments for the quarter indicate that while some resupplying has occurred, retailers are still struggling to clear out launch shipments.
pieatorium
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Originally Posted by shinobi602

I know the Wii U is doing badly month to month, but 3.5 million units doesn't seem so bad in 5 months, I guess?

Less than Gamecube.

Less than PS3 even comparing only 1 week of EU sales for PS3 vs 4 months of WiiU.
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They killed off NDS production? Goodnight sweet prince. :(
The Dutch Slayer
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(04-24-2013, 08:27 AM)
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3DS doing great but WiiU not so much :( We really need fantastic first party software to get WiiU started for real.
Horse Armour
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(04-24-2013, 08:27 AM)
What was their original forecast for Wii U up to this point?
StreetsAhead
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Originally Posted by Gamer @ Heart

Whoa, tennis did better than I thought. The lack of brain training on that list is notable.

Brain Training didn't crack 100,000 sales @ retail in Japan, I doubt it's over 200,00 between the US and JP.

Also, some new management/retiring/promotions/directors got announced:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424_3e.pdf
Kazerei
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Originally Posted by guit3457

So weird..they have even more money in cash and assets.

or I'm reading it worng?

I guess because the value of their foreign cash just appreciated
Nothing1016
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(04-24-2013, 08:28 AM)
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They NEED a better attach ration for the 3DS. 1:3 isn't going to cut it. Hopefully the second half of 2013 really pushes the 3DS software.
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more conservative figures certainly aren't a bad idea

boggles my mind that anyone can look at those hardware/software #'s and still call the wii a fad though
Canis lupus
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Originally Posted by Horse Armour

What was their forecast for Wii U up to this point?

4m, slashed from 5.5
Ecotic
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(04-24-2013, 08:29 AM)
The gist of it in layman's terms:

Nintendo made a loss in 2012 for the second consecutive year as its new Wii U console failed to spark excitement among consumers. The company's operating loss was 36.4 billion yen ($366 million) for the 2012 fiscal year; last quarter, the company unexpectedly predicted that it would lose $220 million in 2012 after previously saying it would turn the same amount in profit. The Wii U has sold 3.45 million units worldwide to date, missing Nintendo's goal of 4 million units for the financial year itself a lowered expectation after the company initially predicted it would sell 5.5 million systems.

Fezan
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(04-24-2013, 08:29 AM)
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WOW at Nintendo first party sales on 3ds
Bruno MB
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Terrible Wii U numbers. Well, it's a miracle they manged to ship even more units, I would like to know its sell-through.

3DS shipment figures are very worrying too, a 40% drop from last year and barely 1 million units shipped. NDS didn't have a 4th quarter this low until last year.
Silver_DNA
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Am I understanding this correctly? Every Wii U sale or every Wi U sale in the west, because of the exchange rate, loses them money? Is that right?

If so, maybe that's why there was no real push to sell the thing.
specialguy
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Originally Posted by wrowa

They expect to sell 9 million Wii Us in the next fiscal year according to the other thread. I think the OP just made a mistake.

as i said and breaking it down even more, even that low number is difficult to imagine.

as per my previous post they're probably looking at 500k/3 months for the slow 9 months at current rates.

so that needs 7.5m in the holiday season, based on what? selling 400k in usa in dec 12 with no supply constraints and no next gen competition?

you could always fall back on the "games are coming have no fear" excuse but ouch, i could actually see things getting worse not better for wii u. it's entirely possible to be forgotten entirely when ps4/720 hit.

this may be over the top reactionary, but nintendo has got to have another next-next gen system at least in the far flung planning stages already, i bet.
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Originally Posted by Gamer @ Heart

That was a projection by an outside firm based in yen.

Were their predictions for operating income or net income?

If the former, Nintendo actually posted an operating loss about twice as large as they were predicting (36bn vs 18.7bn).
Koodo
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Mario Kart 7 better snatch that top-selling 3DS title crown.
Striek
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Originally Posted by Silver_DNA

Am I understanding this correctly? Every Wii U sale or every Wi U sale in the west, because of the exchange rate, loses them money? Is that right?

If so, maybe that's why there was no real push to sell the thing.

No, sales would've increased profit. They already made the systems.

They specifically said the reason why the losses were double what they expected were because they didn't sell as many Wii Us and 3DS as they expected.
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NSMBU did pretty good all things considered. Over half the install base.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Originally Posted by Fezan

WOW at Nintendo first party sales on 3ds

Really. If the 3DS continues for another 3-4 years the numbers will look even more crazy.
Gamer @ Heart
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Originally Posted by gofreak

Were their predictions for operating income or net income?

If the former, Nintendo actually posted an operating loss about twice as large as they were predicting (36bn vs 18.7bn).

Yeah. Not good. I can't believe the yen conversion canceled that out into a positive. That shit is cray.
StreetsAhead
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http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/sales/software/ds.html

Holy crap, NSMB on DS is over 30 million.
guit3457
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BTW Nintendo sotck closed with a 5% increase in Osaka.

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