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RELIGHT
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(05-31-2013, 10:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by RELIGHT

Take-Two CEO on Plan for Used Games

They basically say, if Microsoft is getting paid on used sales we want to get paid too....
SneakyStephan
(05-31-2013, 10:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by MogCakes

He's making a sarcastic reference to Kuchera's PA article, where he called the twitter movement a fart in the wind.

Well I'm sorry for not being able to distinguish sarcasm from honest passive agressive dickwaving and stupidity when it comes to kotaku.
Kane1345
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(05-31-2013, 10:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by famousmortimer

Ok so here's the deal for me.... I'm working a bunch this weekend to try to get atleast the middle of next week free. I can access the internet from work, mostly on my phone. But only when things are calm (I work with autistic adults... so when they go to sleep it's totally fine for me to go online and just keep an ear out for them, assuming im done with all my paperwork, etc). Anyway, that's tmi... the main point is i'm kinda busy this weekend but not entirely.


So I guess I will open the floodgates now and will probably take all weekend to sift through it and decide who is doing what. So I wouldn't expect a response until Sunday at the earliest. Maybe monday during the day.


What we need is people willing to contact websites and let them know they we are planning on a second push on Wednesday at a time we will figure out today or tomorrow. You will need to go to the website to find the contact email/page.... but from there it's easy. Basically you will send an email like (let's pretend it's kotaku).


Hi Kotaku!

This is (your name) from the #PS4NoDRM campaign and we are ramping up for a second and final push on Wednesday, June 5th starting at __ GMT (and then maybe list the time for them if you know the country of the site's origin).

The movement so far has over 175+ media mentions in 20 different languages which has been incredibly helpful to us. We are grateful for the articles you did specifically and were hoping you could help us shine a light on this one final time.

If you have any further questions check out (OP Link) and (site link) or email me at (your email). And if you decide not to cover it again we still are really appreciative of the support you've given us so far.

Thanks,

Yourname




And then if they have questions for you that you know the answer to, answer them. If you don't refer them to me or baller (and maybe others, still hashing that out). I will give you our email addresses when letting you know which sites you will be responsible for.

If a ton of people decide to volunteer it will be really quick for everyone. Each site will take like 5 minutes tops... so if we can get it down to like 5 or less sites per person we're asking for less than a half hour of your time. We will start with the sites that have already covered it and if we have the manpower we will then move onto sites that haven't.


If you're lurking and would like to help, message me on twitter. If you're on the forum, PM me.



As each new page is created in this thread if i'm not around.... if someone could quote this just to get it on the current page I would be most appreciative.

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Jondoyle123
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(05-31-2013, 10:32 PM)
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could someone add xbox drm to my avatar please
nib95
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(05-31-2013, 10:33 PM)
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I've never ever joined one of these Avatar fads or scheme's in all my GAF posting, but for me, this one is so important that I'm joining in. No used games and the potential DRM changes are huge deals to me, enough for me to not buy these consoles altogether. Seriously, Sony, Microsoft, pay attention. We are your market and the consumers who make or break your products, do not respond to years of customer loyalty and dedication with despicable anti-consumer measures.
Last edited by nib95; 05-31-2013 at 10:35 PM.
Zarrastro
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(05-31-2013, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by RELIGHT

Take-Two CEO on Plan for Used Games

Publishers...
It's sad only to think about how their greed may destroy the gaming community.

I want to become a game developer, and i'm starting my studies next term. And i know that, if you want your game to be played and enjoyed by many people, you can't punish gamers like this, even at some cost for the developers.
I don't intent to become rich creating games. I only want to earn money with a job i really love. And i joined this cause not only as a gamer, but as a future developer who sees a grim future if thinks keep going this way.

Also, I understand that the sudden boost of fame has attracted a lot of newcomers to NeoGAF, like me, but please know i'm here because i want to help and i'm glad to join an enormous gaming community like this one. And i'm sure i'm not the only one. Please give us a chance.
Last edited by Zarrastro; 05-31-2013 at 10:50 PM. Reason: A couple typos...
Baller, PhD
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(05-31-2013, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by RELIGHT

Take-Two CEO on Plan for Used Games

Is that so?

@strausszelnick
@Take2_Games

You know what to do.
Krusenstern
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(05-31-2013, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jondoyle123

could someone add xbox drm to my avatar please

Jondoyle123
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(05-31-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Krusenstern

thanks champ
jaosobno
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(05-31-2013, 10:46 PM)
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EDIT: nevermind, ancient news.
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Carl
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(05-31-2013, 10:47 PM)
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So i assume this has been suggested already, i don't know... anyway

I see some activist group is currently using Twitter to have a "tweet storm" about badger culling, and they got the word out by tweeting an imagine about 12 hours before the start. Obviously it spread through retweets and stuff.

So it might be a good way to get the word out about what we're doing and when. If that makes sense... >.<
Krusenstern
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(05-31-2013, 10:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by jaosobno

BREAKING NEWS (I don't know if this is for real but read this)!

This is not breaking news. The statement Yoshida gave was from the PS4 reveal.
jaosobno
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(05-31-2013, 10:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Krusenstern

This is not breaking news. The statement Yoshida gave was from the PS4 reveal.

The date of the article is 31.05.2013. how can this be old?
UberTag
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(05-31-2013, 10:50 PM)
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Can someone #PS4NODRM banner my avatar? (I already consider Xbox One to be a lost cause.)

Thanks in advance!
Baller, PhD
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(05-31-2013, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by jaosobno

The date of the article is 31.05.2013. how can this be old?

Crap fan site reporting news late, nothing new here.
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(05-31-2013, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by jaosobno

EDIT: nevermind, ancient news.

oh please let this be real! I will get a PS4 day one and support publishers that release great games with no DRM

EDIT: whoops got my hopes up :(
jaosobno
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(05-31-2013, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baller, PhD

Crap fan site reporting news late, nothing new here.

Well fuck me, I fell for that one. My bad, I've edited my previous post to avoid confusion.
Exploding8
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(05-31-2013, 10:54 PM)
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These banners make me happy <3
MogCakes
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(05-31-2013, 10:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by UberTag

Can someone #PS4NODRM banner my avatar? (I already consider Xbox One to be a lost cause.)

Thanks in advance!



Originally Posted by nib95

I've never ever joined one of these Avatar fads or scheme's in all my GAF posting, but for me, this one is so important that I'm joining in. No used games and the potential DRM changes are huge deals to me, enough for me to not buy these consoles altogether. Seriously, Sony, Microsoft, pay attention. We are your market and the consumers who make or break your products, do not respond to years of customer loyalty and dedication with despicable anti-consumer measures.

Glad to have you on board!
uuaschbaer
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(05-31-2013, 10:58 PM)
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I think we should use the hashtag #XboxOneNotAlwaysOn for the xbone for the following reasoning:

1. There are 3 reason why the xbone must be always on: (a) used game DRM sells far more games, (b) used game DRM strengthens the relationship with EA et al. (c) Microsoft relies on data mining.

2. (a) is widely disputed, (b) is unnecessary hence Sony not having used game DRM, (c) is left.

3. Data mining requires an internet connection (to transmit data) and a kinect to gather data on your height, sex, voice and appearance. Both an internet connection and the kinect are obligatory and, while an internet connection may be said to be obligatory for DRM, Microsoft hasn't given a reason for the obligation to have your kinect connected.

(Extra point: Microsoft may want to be the All-in-One for your entertainment, and move away from gamers-income, for the same reason Google wants to provide you with all the online apps you will ever need.)

IF this is so, then Microsoft could announce that used game DRM is scrapped, ride the wave of good PR we brought them and still innocently demand always-on without having sacrificed much. That's a spin, because always-on is a step backwards from the 360 and I don't want to help them with that. Therefore I propose we use a hashtag like #XboxOneNotAlwaysOn for the Xbone.
10101
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(05-31-2013, 11:03 PM)
Mogs you're a star, thank you :)
2San
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(05-31-2013, 11:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by RELIGHT

Take-Two CEO on Plan for Used Games

Well he's right? Don't get me wrong I despise banning used sales, but if someone deserves a cut it's the publisher/developer.
Baller, PhD
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(05-31-2013, 11:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by uuaschbaer

I think we should use the hashtag #XboxOneNotAlwaysOn for the xbone for the following reasoning:

"No DRM" implies "not always on." Besides, we need to capitalize on the success we've already achieved with #PS4NoDRM. The hashtags need to match.

Anyway, added a Take2 tweet link in the news story:

http://www.ps4nodrm.com/1/post/2013/...-game-tax.html
Last edited by Baller, PhD; 05-31-2013 at 11:12 PM.
PaNaMa
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(05-31-2013, 11:09 PM)
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CNN, wow unreal!
Orpheus Telos
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(05-31-2013, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baller, PhD

"No DRM" implies "not always on." Besides, we need to capitalize on the success we've already achieved with #PS4NoDRM. The hashtags need to match.

Anyway, added a THQ tweet link in the news story:

http://www.ps4nodrm.com/1/post/2013/...-game-tax.html

THQ is back from the dead already? :P
Baller, PhD
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(05-31-2013, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orpheus Telos

THQ is back from the dead already? :P

lawl, whoops
daripad
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(05-31-2013, 11:14 PM)
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Is someone able to hash tag my avatar with just the ps4 one, please?
uuaschbaer
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(05-31-2013, 11:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baller, PhD

"No DRM" implies "not always on." Besides, we need to capitalize on the success we've already achieved with #PS4NoDRM. The hashtags need to match.

Anyway, added a THQ tweet link in the news story:

http://www.ps4nodrm.com/1/post/2013/...-game-tax.html

We shouldn't allow them to interpret it as "No used-game DRM." (They could still implement always-on under the guise of normal DRM.) If they do they've used us. We can avoid that.
Krusenstern
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(05-31-2013, 11:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by daripad

Is someone able to hash tag my avatar with just the ps4 one, please?

daripad
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(05-31-2013, 11:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Krusenstern

Thank you. I'll change it at night
Kane1345
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(05-31-2013, 11:24 PM)
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Just in case people missed it the next push starts on the 5th June at 9am EST / 1pm GMT
Pistolero
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(05-31-2013, 11:31 PM)
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Somebody help with my avatar please?
10101
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(05-31-2013, 11:37 PM)

Originally Posted by uuaschbaer

We shouldn't allow them to interpret it as "No used-game DRM." (They could still implement always-on under the guise of normal DRM.) If they do they've used us. We can avoid that.

I agree with Baller, the #ps4nodrm tag has been pretty successful and I think it implies we won't stand for any of the DRM bullshit, which also includes always on.

Baller - just tweeted that take two link, loving the "I'll worry about my own taxes message" lol. Had to tweak it a bit as I'll probably get a ban again, but great nonetheless.

On the take two vid, if anyone should get a cut it probably should be the pub/dev and not the platform holder. That said I don't think any of them should get a cut for a second sale, it's just greedy. The industry may well need fixing, but I don't think fleecing consumers is going to help in fixing anything.
Baleoce
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(05-31-2013, 11:40 PM)
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Well my video got into the NeoGAF GT promo, I tried to raise a bit more awareness for this cause, so hopefully it'll help :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x...-neogaf-speaks
Krusenstern
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(05-31-2013, 11:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pistolero

Somebody help with my avatar please?

MogCakes
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(05-31-2013, 11:47 PM)
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Has anyone tried contacting the Electronic Frontier Foundation? They're an international digital rights group, and could help us.

https://www.eff.org/
10101
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(05-31-2013, 11:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Baleoce

Well my video got into the NeoGAF GT promo, I tried to raise a bit more awareness for this cause, so hopefully it'll help :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x...-neogaf-speaks

Nice one dude, only one representing UKGAF too! Double win lol :D
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(05-31-2013, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baleoce

Well my video got into the NeoGAF GT promo, I tried to raise a bit more awareness for this cause, so hopefully it'll help :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x...-neogaf-speaks

At around 1:02? Thank you, we appreciate it!

Originally Posted by MogCakes

Has anyone tried contacting the Electronic Frontier Foundation? They're an international digital rights group, and could help us.

https://www.eff.org/

We should definitely write them. Won't hurt if we try.
Baller, PhD
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(05-31-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baleoce

Well my video got into the NeoGAF GT promo, I tried to raise a bit more awareness for this cause, so hopefully it'll help :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x...-neogaf-speaks

omfg @ blamespace
jimforspeed
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(06-01-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Hello everyone, just got validated (ultra fast btw).

I was following the discussion in the other thread when the idea for the twitter campaign started, and, to be honest I was really thinking "nice but too ambitious"...but whoa, you guys are really amazing.

Made a twitter account for that and sent 4-5 tweets. Been reading the discussion ever since, and I also spread the word in the biggest Greek forum together with a couple more guys (not a first-page article yet though).

Good job, seriously.
kogasu
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(06-01-2013, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Baleoce

Well my video got into the NeoGAF GT promo, I tried to raise a bit more awareness for this cause, so hopefully it'll help :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x...-neogaf-speaks

Just watched the video. That's awesome! Thanks for helping! :D
Stuart444
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(06-01-2013, 12:13 AM)
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After thinking about it, can someone do the No DRM tags for my avatar? One or both them, I don't mind :)
Kane1345
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(06-01-2013, 12:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Baleoce

Well my video got into the NeoGAF GT promo, I tried to raise a bit more awareness for this cause, so hopefully it'll help :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/x...-neogaf-speaks

Doritos at the end lol
Krusenstern
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(06-01-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Stuart444

After thinking about it, can someone do the No DRM tags for my avatar? One or both them, I don't mind :)



That's the last one for today. It's bedtime.
Stuart444
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(06-01-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Krusenstern



That's the last one for today. It's bedtime.

Thanks a lot :)
uuaschbaer
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(06-01-2013, 12:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by syphonfitter

I agree with Baller, the #ps4nodrm tag has been pretty successful and I think it implies we won't stand for any of the DRM bullshit, which also includes always on.

[snip]

Ok, I just felt I should mention it.
Kane1345
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(06-01-2013, 12:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by jimforspeed

Hello everyone, just got validated (ultra fast btw).

I was following the discussion in the other thread when the idea for the twitter campaign started, and, to be honest I was really thinking "nice but too ambitious"...but whoa, you guys are really amazing.

Made a twitter account for that and sent 4-5 tweets. Been reading the discussion ever since, and I also spread the word in the biggest Greek forum together with a couple more guys (not a first-page article yet though).

Good job, seriously.

Welcome, hope you enjoy it here!
gekkokamen
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(06-01-2013, 12:42 AM)
NO DRM ON PS4!!!

http://kotaku.com/sony-wont-answer-t...-use-510477281
Baleoce
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(06-01-2013, 12:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by gekkokamen

NO DRM ON PS4!!!

http://kotaku.com/sony-wont-answer-t...-use-510477281

Well, no DRM from Sony anyway. But other publishers are free to implement it on the PS4 platform if this update is to be believed. Sadly this is what a lot of us suspected would be the case.
Alej
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Originally Posted by Baleoce

Well, no DRM from Sony anyway. But other publishers are free to implement it on the PS4 platform if this update is to be believed. Sadly this is what a lot of us suspected would be the case.

So it's a status quo sort-of.

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