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Amir0x
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(06-02-2013, 12:10 PM)
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Our man Tiemen, a fresh GAFer who has already been extremely useful since he has joined only a few months ago, has noticed this at the end of the official DualShock 4 video for PS4.

Playstation®4 camera may be required and is sold seperately.

If it's "sold separately", it can't possibly be a pack-in now, can it?

I did not know this, and up until now I think we were operating off that one report that said it WOULD come packed in, so this is GREAT news! And good news for a LOWER PS4 PRICE!
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TacticalFox88
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(06-02-2013, 12:11 PM)
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$399?

$399.
SolidSnakex
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(06-02-2013, 12:11 PM)
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Fantastic news if true. Consumers don't want to eat the price of that camera and I doubt that Sony does either.
Loudninja
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Food for thought.
(06-02-2013, 12:11 PM)
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Also confirmed what we knew it is not mandatory.
uncharted86
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Good thing for the PS4 price.
Kweh
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
Maybe they're packing a Vita instead.
benny_a
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Another prediction by me: MS didn't show off cool enough camera-based things in their unveil that Sony needs to scramble to copy that it makes sense to bundle the PS4Eye.

I have a very bad track record with predictions.
dab0ne
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Oh nice. Fix'n to save some money.
Sophia
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Sold Separately is kinda weird with the controller's functionality and all...
Kyoufu
(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Sold separately? Praise the sun.

Now they can hopefully launch at a decent price.

Originally Posted by Sophia

Sold Separately is kinda weird with the controller's functionality and all...

It's just an optional feature. Nothing mandatory.
Majanew
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Fantastic. Do not want a camera.
RoboPlato
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(06-02-2013, 12:12 PM)
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Cool, I wouldn't mind if it was packed in but I'd like to pay less if possible.

Originally Posted by Sophia

Sold Separately is kinda weird with the controller's functionality and all...

The only thing the DS4 requires the camera for is location tracking.
RavenholmDX
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(06-02-2013, 12:13 PM)
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Interesting. I've always said it'll be $399/€399/£349.
Takao
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(06-02-2013, 12:13 PM)
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Sony might as well not release any Move-only games this gen.
Danj
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(06-02-2013, 12:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by RavenholmDX

Interesting. I've always said it'll be $399/€399/£349.

Hoping for £299 here. C'mon Sony, you can do it!
Broken Joystick
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(06-02-2013, 12:15 PM)
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Come on Sony, now just bring the games at E3 and you've got my money.
Canis lupus
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(06-02-2013, 12:15 PM)
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Its gonna be cheaper than the Xbone that way me thinks.
Rebel Leader
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(06-02-2013, 12:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danj

Hoping for £299 here. C'mon Sony, you can do it!


Won't happen. Hope it does
Shiloa
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(06-02-2013, 12:16 PM)
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Personally I think it's a shame. The only exception is if they launch with a game that will really make the Eye a must have. A bit like how the WiiFit or WiiPlay worked.
randomrosso
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(06-02-2013, 12:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Sophia

Sold Separately is kinda weird with the controller's functionality and all...

It was always going to be trivial. Just another way for Sony to jack up the price of the controller (see touchpad)
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(06-02-2013, 12:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Majanew

Fantastic. Do not want a camera.

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Sethos
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(06-02-2013, 12:16 PM)
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Good, thank you. I don't want to pay extra for all that faff that I will never use.
syko de4d
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(06-02-2013, 12:16 PM)
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i would prefer if it would be bundled with every PS4.
Crakatak187
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(06-02-2013, 12:16 PM)
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By selling it separately Sony will make more money. The PSEYE cost about 50 dollars for the PS3 and I doubt it cost that much to manufacture.
Psycho_Mantis
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(06-02-2013, 12:17 PM)
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$349 C'mon Sony
KAL2006
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(06-02-2013, 12:17 PM)
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2 SKU prediction

320GB - $399
500GB/PSEye - $499
shinra-bansho
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(06-02-2013, 12:17 PM)
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Good.

I expect there will be a bundled version, but I personally don't see the need for it.

Also, with regard to any potential voice-related features, I believe the PS4 controller has a built in microphone.

I am really curious how much Kinect 2 adds to the XB1 BoM.
DieH@rd
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(06-02-2013, 12:17 PM)
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Kinda weird choice. I totally expected it to be a part of the basic pack. Now developers cant 100% count on that camera being present in every system.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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(06-02-2013, 12:17 PM)
Yeah, it looks like it'll be just another "We have it too!" moment from Sony, where they'll throw in a gimmick because the competitor has it, but not do a damn thing with it.

It's both a good and a bad thing. Lets hope they use it successfully in some of their games, because they certainly don't have a good track record with their gimmicks.
Loudninja
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(06-02-2013, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Yeah, it looks like it'll be just another "We have it too!" moment from Sony, where they'll throw in a gimmick because the competitor has it, but not do a damn thing with it.

It's both a good and a bad thing. Lets hope they use it successfully in some of their games, because they certainly don't have a good track record with their gimmicks.

We have too?

Sony had the PS eye since the PS2 days.
Tiemen
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(06-02-2013, 12:18 PM)
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Thank you Amir0x. ;-)

Hopefully this means a cheaper PS4 for us. Though it will probably still be bundled with a 'premium' SKU.
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(06-02-2013, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Yeah, it looks like it'll be just another "We have it too!" moment from Sony, where they'll throw in a gimmick because the competitor has it, but not do a damn thing with it.

It's both a good and a bad thing. Lets hope they use it successfully in some of their games, because they certainly don't have a good track record with their gimmicks.

Kinect is one gimmick nobody should ever copy, ever.

edit: but as stated above, PS Eye has been around since PS2.
Mung
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(06-02-2013, 12:18 PM)

Originally Posted by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Yeah, it looks like it'll be just another "We have it too!" moment from Sony, where they'll throw in a gimmick because the competitor has it, but not do a damn thing with it.

It's both a good and a bad thing. Lets hope they use it successfully in some of their games, because they certainly don't have a good track record with their gimmicks.

Eye toy and PS eye both predate Kinect by many years. I don't think they really care about it.

edit: beaten
Sethos
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by DieH@rd

Kinda weird choice. I totally expected it to be a part of the basic pack. Now developers cant 100% count on that camera being present in every system.

And that's good. Don't want developers to crowbar in some shitty camera feature because they expect it to be bundled with every Playstation. When it's optional, the best they can do is some side gimmick you can easily avoid.
Tiops
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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YES, please be true.
ebullientprism
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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Fantastic news. I have little interest in Move so I would rather not be forced to pay for it.
Amir0x
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loudninja

We have too?

Sony had the PS eye since the PS2 days.

Typical Sony, always going back in time to try to act like it did something first
Cartman86
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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Blah. Will barely be used then. Would rather spend more money if it meant every dev had the option to support it. Unless its a garbage device though. I would hope there are advancements.
Oni Jazar
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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Sony is going to keep the decision whether the camera is bundled or not for as long as they possibly can. If they can wait until MS announced the price they'd love to wait. Depends on how long MS will blink.
Baleoce
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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I'm absolutely fine with this. Not only does it have the potential to allow them to target a lower price point, but more importantly, as a Vita user, it means that the majority of developers will approach their games without that functionality in mind, which means they would be streamable to the Vita.

Really, this is the best possible news for Vita users considering Sonys recent announcement of all non-camera-functionality based PS4 games being compatible with Vita.
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boredandlazy
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(06-02-2013, 12:19 PM)
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Maybe they just mean it'll be sold separately from the controller? Rather than being sold separately from the console itself...
SniperHunter
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(06-02-2013, 12:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakex

Fantastic news if true. Consumers don't want to eat the price of that camera and I doubt that Sony does either.

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the camera can fuck off
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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(06-02-2013, 12:20 PM)

Originally Posted by Loudninja

We have too?

Sony had the PS eye since the PS2 days.

Yeah, which they brought back as a major focus clearly because of the Kinect.
RoboPlato
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(06-02-2013, 12:20 PM)
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Now that I think about it, they may have decided to drop the Eye from being bundled after all the backlash about required Kinect in XBO and want to make it as clear as possible that it's not mandatory or the primary focus for the system.
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(06-02-2013, 12:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by KAL2006

2 SKU prediction

320GB - $399
500GB/PSEye - $499

no 349, Amir0x has to eat a hat >_>
Crakatak187
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(06-02-2013, 12:21 PM)
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Headtracking is a gimmick I can live without anyways. Slightly turning my head away from the screen to change the view seems like a pain in the ass. It would work perfectly for Oculus Rift though.
maquiladora
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(06-02-2013, 12:21 PM)
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Hopefully it stays that way. It will be cheaper and I never would have used the damn thing anyway.

Mandatory Kinect is one of the main reasons I have no interest in getting the Xbone.
mkotechno
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(06-02-2013, 12:21 PM)

Originally Posted by RavenholmDX

Interesting. I've always said it'll be $399/€399/£349.

$399 = 307€

Always robbing europeans.
Auto_aim1
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(06-02-2013, 12:22 PM)
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The DS4 front lightbar uses the camera, correct? Or is it a separate thing?
shinra-bansho
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(06-02-2013, 12:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Yeah, which they brought back as a major focus clearly because of the Kinect.

Both of them put out motion control peripherals because of the Wii, not each other.

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