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Mascot
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(06-12-2013, 12:10 AM)
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All confirmed tonight on Twitch by Dan.

Paints and tunes can still be created, traded and used, but painters and tuners are now paid according to usage, not on an initial selling price (which is now effectively at no cost to the purchaser).
There will still be a way to search for community-created tunes and liveries, but not by using the current Storefront system.
It seems like the Auction House has been completely removed because community tunes and liveries are now free to buy, with the game 'paying' the creators based on how much their creations are used by other players.
The game will 'learn' what kind of paints you like and will direct them to you, make suggestions etc.
It was suggested that Drivatar cars (ie AI) will use community paints/liveries.

Oh, and Dan was unsure about existing wheel support, said he wasn't the best man to ask.

Disappointing news about weather and night, but kudos to Turn 10 for being up front about it now.

Edit: not sure how true this is, but it was hinted by Dan that all material shaders used in the game can be used to paint the car, eg full brushed aluminium finish, full carbon finish. Maybe leather cars? Sounds daft.

Edit 2: ALL cars are Autovista now. This possibly/probably means a vastly reduced car roster from FM4.
Last edited by Mascot; 06-12-2013 at 08:30 AM.
siddhu33
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(06-12-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Wait, what? No storefront or auction house? why?
markot
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(06-12-2013, 12:11 AM)
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English?
Zoramon089
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(06-12-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by siddhu33

Wait, what? No storefront or auction house? why?

Graphics taking a priority...and the cloud
Loris146
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(06-12-2013, 12:11 AM)
Dat mandatory launch title. Dat rush.
Rains
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(06-12-2013, 12:12 AM)
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Why the step back seems like they have cut alot
VanquishUK
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(06-12-2013, 12:12 AM)
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Sigh...
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(06-12-2013, 12:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by siddhu33

Wait, what? No storefront or auction house? why?

No secondhand livery sales.
reptilescorpio
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(06-12-2013, 12:14 AM)
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Wait really? Did they give an indication it could be DLC? Hopefully it is.
Mascot
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(06-12-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Have added more detail in OP.
amar212
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(06-12-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by siddhu33

Wait, what? No storefront or auction house? why?

It is covered by DRM. Seriously.

When you make a livery, and somebody uses it, game pays you as the author by the usage of your livery, for every usage.

Some conceptual artism there.
SatansReverence
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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Absolutely no excuses for weather and night this time T10.

Officially 0% chance of me buying now.

T10 clearly have no interest in pushing the series forward.
Star Falcon
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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Storefront & Auction House were pretty much staples of the series. Maybe not enough time to get it working on new tech for launch?

A bit disappointed that there is no night racing, can live without rain and such but night races is gonna be missed.
Wynnebeck
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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No night cycle after Forza Horizon? Lame!
Pistolero
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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The handicap of being at launch, probably...
R dott B
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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Oh damn Turn 10 good thing I don't like those features in my racing games but this is a letdown still.
WarMacheen
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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Forget to add, no buy
iLLmaticV3
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(06-12-2013, 12:16 AM)
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No night and weather? Not for me...I've grown accustomed to those features and they really make racing games a lot more entertaining to watch/play for me.
sneaky77
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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How is Dan not the guy to ask about wheel support? lol
zephervack
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Too bad :(, doesnt GT 5 even have weather/night???

Oh well im sure once they finish working on the engine they will release Forza 6 with all this stuff
Heretic
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Hopefully they patch that in later. This will be my first Forza game :)
Slygmous
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Feeling a little less bad about missing this now.
Still sad though.

Originally Posted by zephervack

Oh well im sure once they finish working on the engine they will release Forza 6 with all this stuff

We say this every Forza game.
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Launch game is still a Launch game, no matter how awesome it appears.

Part 6 will have weather. Just wait 18 months.
BrokenSymmetry
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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So it's back to square one? In the last Forza's we already lost the tournaments, the local leaderboards, and the offline custom races.
Chacranajxy
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(06-12-2013, 12:17 AM)
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FM5? Front Mission 5?

Probably not that cool.
Terbinator
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(06-12-2013, 12:18 AM)
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JaggedSac
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(06-12-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Well, I'm out then.
Triggerhappytel
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(06-12-2013, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Loris146

Dat mandatory launch title. Dat rush.

This. With only two years to work on this and a generational leap to master, they're no doubt having to cut out extraneous stuff.
RoKKeR
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(06-12-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Good. Now I really won't feel bad about not getting a One for this game.
Mascot
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(06-12-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Star Falcon

Storefront & Auction House were pretty much staples of the series. Maybe not enough time to get it working on new tech for launch?

A bit disappointed that there is no night racing, can live without rain and such but night races is gonna be missed.

Community tunes and liveries will still exist, but they are free to 'purchase' and use. The creator gets paid (by the game, not by the user) every time they are used.

I'll add this to the OP.
Rains
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(06-12-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Really poor show from turn 10 was expecting some form of night/day cycle at the least now they are cutting good features sounds like a half baked game
Duxxy3
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(06-12-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Wow, those are some serious step backs.
StriKeVillain
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(06-12-2013, 12:19 AM)
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"Next-gen"
Bitmap Frogs
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(06-12-2013, 12:20 AM)
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One would have thought it would be easy to implement cloudy weather.
ypo
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(06-12-2013, 12:21 AM)

Originally Posted by Bitmap Frogs

One would have thought it would be easy to implement cloudy weather.

Sorry not enough Clouds.
Red Chocobo
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(06-12-2013, 12:21 AM)
The whole thing looks rushed.

I expected it to be Forza 4.5.
inner-G
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(06-12-2013, 12:21 AM)
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Can't wait for the GT6 vs Forza 5 thread :lol
eso76
(06-12-2013, 12:21 AM)
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You missed

EVERY CAR in the game is autovista.

'You can open everything and look inside etc'.

IGN vid interview around 4'10"

And wtf, you guys misunderstood the no auction house part.
Custom liveries will exist of course, you just won't need to pay for them and AI will use them too. Something ppl have been asking for a while and auction housa had become rather pointless anyway, ppl were misusing it all the time.
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The Cowboy
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
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No weather or night?, just wow - that is a very big disappointment indeed.
Brinbe
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
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hahahahaha
Raven77
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
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Welcome to next gen,,,
Iced_Eagle
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
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Wait, I'm confused. I caught a few minutes of the stream on Xbox before I had to leave, but I heard him talking about how creators can create paint jobs and sell them, and whenever somebody buys them, Turn 10 pays the creator a portion for their work.

If they don't have an auctionhouse or storefront, how could they do this?
Batigol
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
Wow, what is the point?
Glorified G
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
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Probably didn't have enough time due to launch. at least they got the basics down (1080p 60fps). The gameplay at e3 looked great.

No excuse for their next title

Originally Posted by sneaky77

How is Dan not the guy to ask about wheel support? lol

Yeah, I'm not buying that either.
Liquidsnake
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(06-12-2013, 12:22 AM)
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Its weird when a PS3 game looks better than the next gen offerings form both MS and Sony.

What did they think was going to happen?

Did next gen sneak up on these guys?
bndadm
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(06-12-2013, 12:23 AM)
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No weather or night cycle?

And your services are cloud based? Shouldn't that have weather built right in?

Sounds like a dull racer to me.
Bgamer90
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(06-12-2013, 12:23 AM)
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Man. No night/weather is disappointing. Guess it was a trade off to make the game 1080p/60fps at launch (rush).
anddo0
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(06-12-2013, 12:23 AM)
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No weather?
But doesn't rain come from the clouds?
Mascot
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(06-12-2013, 12:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by eso76

You missed

EVERY CAR in the game is autovista.

'You can open everything and look inside etc'.

IGN vid interview around 4'10"

Yeah, didn't mention that as it was already out there. I think it's on FM.net as well.
U n i o n 0015
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(06-12-2013, 12:25 AM)
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Auction house was always a bit lame, if you ask me. It also ruined the bidding on unicorn cars.

But no storefront is insane. How will people distribute their paints?? The cloud is supposed to imagine what you want?

Ugh.

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