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nbthedude
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(06-15-2013, 01:51 AM)
Multiple developers and first hand evidence have confirmed this to be the case. Interesting given the recent info on Xbox One games running on Power PCs and all the rumors about their dev cycle being behind:


Jon Blow, The Witness Developer:

Infamous Second Son Developer:

Knack Crashed to Playstation's OS desktop during one Gaffer's Play at E3:

The error screen had a lot going on, including an information box that revealed the current HDD space usage. If you look carefully the dev unit was using 385gb out of 423gb. When you factor in how manufacturers rate the drives you get actual usable space of 465gb. Now subtract that from what we saw on the crash screen and we get roughly 42gb of reserved system data that is not user accessible. That number could decrease or increase on actual retail systems.

More here.
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Kevin
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(06-15-2013, 01:52 AM)
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This is good news. Seems like almost everything surrounding PS4 has been super positive.
Vic
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(06-15-2013, 01:54 AM)
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Yet another PS4 win over the XBone.
Schrade
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(06-15-2013, 01:54 AM)
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PowerPCs? Wut? Dude.. you might want to ask a mod to help change the title of your post.
AuthenticM
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(06-15-2013, 01:54 AM)
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damn straight
DMPrince
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(06-15-2013, 01:55 AM)
that's just joblow's game. other ps4 needs to come out and say it too without him saying it ;P

just so we can have more screencaps. and use it for the future thread.
angular graphics
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(06-15-2013, 01:55 AM)
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This "confirms" just one game to me to be honest. I am inclined to believe most ran on PS4 hardware but I don't think that has been "confirmed".
Turok_TTZ
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(06-15-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Another nail to the xbone coffin.
kassatsu
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(06-15-2013, 01:55 AM)
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Tiny Brains (not at Sony's booth, but at the show) was using a PC build with Dual Shock 4s.

A inFamous Second Son producer confirmed they were running on ps4 dev kit at the show.
Lagspike_exe
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(06-15-2013, 01:55 AM)
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PowerPCs were actually for Xbox 360s. :P
jett
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)
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Speaking of the Witness are there any new videos of it? I haven't seen anything of it.
TheMink
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Schrade

PowerPCs? Wut? Dude.. you might want to ask a mod to help change the title of your post.

....why?
Lulubop
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)
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And yet, in another thread a gafer posted this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=425
Swifty
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)
Infamous Second Son also running on a PS4 devkit.

https://twitter.com/artenvelope/stat...78144625340416
nbthedude
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Schrade

PowerPCs? Wut? Dude.. you might want to ask a mod to help change the title of your post.

Yeah it should say "High End." I'm old. The fact that the word "PowerPC" actually slipped out of my mind betrays this fact. :P
Pray For Death
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)
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That's one dev, talking about one indie title though. Not confirmation for all PS4 games.
BlackLagoon
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(06-15-2013, 01:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by angular graphics

This "confirms" just one game to me to be honest. I am inclined to believe most ran on PS4 hardware but I don't think that has been "confirmed".

There was a picture of a tweet from a Sucker Punch dev confirming that Infamous was running on a devkit in another thread.

EDIT: Beaten. :(
Kolgar
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(06-15-2013, 01:57 AM)
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Seems the rumors of Microsoft being six months behind are true. And Sony is cooking right along.
DMPrince
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(06-15-2013, 01:57 AM)

Originally Posted by kassatsu

Tiny Brains (not at Sony's booth, but at the show) was using a PC build with Dual Shock 4s.

that's why it wasn't at sony's booth amirite.
childplease
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(06-15-2013, 01:58 AM)
lol Key word there is " as many other devs did"

Of course it you can get your game to look good on the ps4 if you are just showing off an indie game that is not graphically impressive.

I bet most of the games that were actually graphically impressive were shown on pcs at this years e3.
Garrett 2U
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(06-15-2013, 01:58 AM)
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What a misleading title..
And just because The Witness was running on hardware, doesn't mean the rest of the games were too.
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kassatsu
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(06-15-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

that's why it wasn't at sony's booth amirite.

They also are shopping the game around to Microsoft too. Isn't first on PS4 like all the games at the booth.
SolidSnakex
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(06-15-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

Speaking of the Witness are there any new videos of it? I haven't seen anything of it.

I think he was only giving demos behind closed doors.
SPDIF
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(06-15-2013, 01:58 AM)
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Is it really confirmed just because Jonathan Blow says so?
Respawn
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(06-15-2013, 01:59 AM)
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If someone said PS4 could fold space I would believe it. Positive news train is at max
-Cade
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(06-15-2013, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by childplease

lol Key word there is " as many other devs did"

Of course it you can get your game to look good on the ps4 if you are just showing off an indie game that is not graphically impressive.

I bet most of the games that were actually graphically impressive were shown on pcs at this years e3.

You clearly haven't seen The Witness, and Infamous: Second Son was also confirmed..
HoosTrax
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(06-15-2013, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Garrett 2U

What a misleading title..

I read the title and thought the same thing. "Well ofc they're not using PowerPCs...when was the last anyone did"
Recon
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Originally Posted by childplease

lol Key word there is " as many other devs did"

Of course it you can get your game to look good on the ps4 if you are just showing off an indie game that is not graphically impressive.

I bet most of the games that were actually graphically impressive were shown on pcs at this years e3.

Wrong post is wrong.
la flama blanca
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(06-15-2013, 02:00 AM)

Originally Posted by SPDIF

Is it really confirmed just because Jonathan Blow says so?

Why wouldn't it be? If he was lying plenty of other people could discredit him, you think he would risk that?
kortez320
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(06-15-2013, 02:00 AM)

Originally Posted by SPDIF

Is it really confirmed just because Jonathan Blow says so?

No and I actually doubt it is. All this really confirms is his game was running on a dev kit.

Especially when we have someone else saying they played a PS4 game on a PC.
DBT85
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(06-15-2013, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Recon

Wrong post is wrong.

You're doing it wrong, read his tag.
exmachina64
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(06-15-2013, 02:01 AM)
Great to hear.
nbthedude
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(06-15-2013, 02:01 AM)

Originally Posted by SPDIF

Is it really confirmed just because Jonathan Blow says so?

We have at least two devs now that have confirmed. Blow and Infmous dev. I'll add more to the OP as they arise.
nbthedude
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(06-15-2013, 02:02 AM)

Originally Posted by kortez320

No and I actually doubt it is. All this really confirms is his game was running on a dev kit.

Especially when we have someone else saying they played a PS4 game on a PC.

He specificially stated it was running on PS4 OS.
Woorloog
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(06-15-2013, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Respawn

If someone said PS4 could fold space I would believe it. Positive news train is at max

How do you think they got everything to fit inside that box?

So they were running on devkits, but aren't devkits more powerful or something?
J1SSL3R
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(06-15-2013, 02:02 AM)
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MS can't catch a break, can they?

Oh well.
DBT85
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(06-15-2013, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Woorloog

How do you think they got everything to fit inside that box?

So they were running on devkits, but aren't devkits more powerful or something?

Devkits typically have more RAM, not more anything else.
Amir0x
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(06-15-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Considering how far behind Xbox One is in its development than PS4, if this were true at the wider level it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever
Moosichu
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(06-15-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Woorloog

How do you think they got everything to fit inside that box?

So they were running on devkits, but aren't devkits more powerful or something?

Afaik. Same hardware but with more ram for debugging.
Paco
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(06-15-2013, 02:03 AM)
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Why does this ultimately matter? Is it some indication that MS is going to have to delay past November? Because if it isn't then what is the point of making a case about it?
DMPrince
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(06-15-2013, 02:04 AM)

Originally Posted by kassatsu

They also are shopping the game around to Microsoft too. Isn't first on PS4 like all the games at the booth.

are they insinuating microsoft might have tiny brains.
tranciful
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(06-15-2013, 02:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Paco

Why does this ultimately matter?

Forza/Quantum Break graphics/performance don't mean much when it's not actually running on the right hardware.
graywolf323
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(06-15-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by childplease

lol Key word there is " as many other devs did"

Of course it you can get your game to look good on the ps4 if you are just showing off an indie game that is not graphically impressive.

I bet most of the games that were actually graphically impressive were shown on pcs at this years e3.

child please
AstroLad
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(06-15-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Moosichu

Afaik. Same hardware but with more ram for debugging.

Also Quad SLI Titans to compete with the MS PCs.
opticalmace
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(06-15-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by AstroLad

Also Quad SLI Titans to compete with the MS PCs.

The only way to play Peggle 2.
SMT
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(06-15-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Alright Jehova Blow, I believe you.
ZanzibarBreeze
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(06-15-2013, 02:05 AM)
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Another plus one.
SPDIF
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(06-15-2013, 02:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Juancho9

Why wouldn't it be? If he was lying plenty of other people could discredit him, you think he would risk that?

Well I'm not doubting his game is running on a dev kit, others may be too. But with posts like this, I'm not sure how it can be confirmed.

Originally Posted by kassatsu

I played 1 PS4 game on a PC. It wasn't at Sony's booth though and we were told it was the PC version running with PS4 controllers.

cobragt4001
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(06-15-2013, 02:06 AM)

Originally Posted by DBT85

Devkits typically have more RAM, not more anything else.

And you know the ps4's Dev kit top to bottom?
DBT85
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(06-15-2013, 02:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Paco

Why does this ultimately matter? Is it some indication that MS is going to have to delay past November? Because if it isn't then what is the point of making a case about it?

If Sony games were running on the same silicone that we'll get, and the Microsoft games were running as has been discussed at length on much higher specced GPUs, then what people saw form Microsoft is not representative on what we'll get.

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