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Soriku
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(06-27-2013, 09:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Refyref

Before everyone starts begging for their favorite corporation to buy the game division, bear in mind that is extremely unlikely, and would probably hurt them.

Yeah I suggest everyone read this post from the other thread...

An operation like Atlus (with a well-developed publishing arm, a series of niche markets, and development infrastructure oriented around multiple companies' platforms) is rarely an efficient investment for a platform-holder.

If we get to the point where we're actually having a real conversation about "who will buy Atlus" (and we're really not anywhere near that now), you're much more likely looking at another third-party Japanese publisher who believes Atlus' stable of properties could complement their own.

ambientmystic
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(06-27-2013, 09:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

nintendo won't be buying them. i don't think sony would either.

tecmo-koei might be a large-ish company that could do it. maaaaaaybe konami? the only rpg franchise they sorta have is dragon's dogma.

You meant CAPCPOM.
Psycho_Mantis
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(06-27-2013, 09:29 AM)
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WTF......someone think of the Persona fans. Someone save them.
raven777
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(06-27-2013, 09:29 AM)
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so I am not familiar with these kind of things, but is it possible for a company to buy the atlus game division out and release their games? Like not just the IPs but the whole part of the Atlus and their staffs?
Soulflarz
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(06-27-2013, 09:29 AM)
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Nonono fuckkk


I BOUGHT ALL YOUR GAMES WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME

...i just want atlus to make it out alive...
Burgess_101
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(06-27-2013, 09:30 AM)
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Microsoft will buy them and commission a Persona FPS.
kyoya
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(06-27-2013, 09:30 AM)
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My bet is that a game company from South Korea, Taiwan or mainland China buys Atlus out. Shit, it's going to be a confusing day at Atlus USA, wonder if they knew beforehand or can even make payroll.
Kyon
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(06-27-2013, 09:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mandoric

To quote a market research firm's English-language FAQ about the procedure...



The tl;dr is that it's definitely a reorganization, rather than liquidation or absorption. Index will continue operating, under the ownership of some combination of current management and current creditors.

thank goodness
Coldnoodle
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(06-27-2013, 09:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by Smedwicks

I can't quite see Nintendo doing that.

And boy, I could see a lot of outrage if that did happen.

Gaf:
wrowa
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Seriously, can someone tell us what does it mean for Atlus? It's too relevant, we must know abotu them ;_;

Atlus and Index are one and the same. Atlus is not a seperate entity by any means, it's just a brand at this point.

In other words, they are dead. Holy fucking shit, this is the worst day in recent gaming history.

I hope their overseas business is still safe... I want to get Soul Hackers and SMTIV in Europe.

And dammit, I want to know what FE x SMT was all about. I hope someone else than Sony buys the company... oh god and please not SE or Konami either.
Xater
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)
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Well selling of Atlus seems likely. I am sure someone wants them for Persona and SMT. Not sure who would be a likely buyer though.
Refyref
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)
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It's extremely likely that whoever buys the games division won't be a video games company at all, people.

Originally Posted by Mandoric

To quote a market research firm's English-language FAQ about the procedure...



The tl;dr is that it's definitely a reorganization, rather than liquidation or absorption. Index will continue operating, under the ownership of some combination of current management and current creditors. Think, say, GM or Chrysler.

Oh, even better.
TurnipFritters
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by raven777

so I am not familiar with these kind of things, but is it possible for a company to buy the atlus game division out and release their games? Like not just the IPs but the whole part of the Atlus and their staffs?

It is a remote possibility, yes, but you should not expect that to happen.
CSX
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Mandoric

To quote a market research firm's English-language FAQ about the procedure...



The tl;dr is that it's definitely a reorganization, rather than liquidation or absorption. Index will continue operating, under the ownership of some combination of current management and current creditors. Think, say, GM or Chrysler.

but isnt the current management and creditors the people behind all the corruption?
Inorigo
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by V_Ben

Ok, so what does this mean for Atlus then? Do they get spun off into a separate thing? Does somebody buy them?

Sony please.

Please.

I'm not even kidding. At all.
Infernal Monkey
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(06-27-2013, 09:31 AM)
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Hopefully they get picked up by a company that doesn't despise Europe.
KillerTravis
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(06-27-2013, 09:32 AM)
Please Atlus for the love of gaming stay alive!! :(

You are one of the few developers still making great JRPGs.
Kyon
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(06-27-2013, 09:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Xater

Well selling of Atlus seems likely. I am sure someone wants the for Persona and SMT. Not sure who would be a likely buyer though.

Sony will buy Persona, Nintendo can buy SMT.

And literally nothing will change because both are exclusive to those platforms anyway
Minions
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(06-27-2013, 09:32 AM)
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There is no telling what may happen. Atlus has a lot of good IP's however.
mao2
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(06-27-2013, 09:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Mozendo

It's pretty much done now since it's coming out next month. It won't get cancelled.

I hope you're right...
suppadoopa
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(06-27-2013, 09:32 AM)
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EA buys em and renames em to Bioware Japan.
baekshi
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(06-27-2013, 09:32 AM)
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Persona 5 will revive Atlus.
TaroYamada
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Silky

According to wiki [take this with a grain of salt please.], Index Holdings operates Atlus under the Atlus brand.

Soo...this could be bad.

Let Atlus be independent pls

That's what the thread is about.
Hours Left
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyon

Sony will buy Persona, Nintendo can buy SMT.

And literally nothing will change because both are exclusive to those platforms anyway

Splitting the IPs between companies would be awful. Someone needs to buy them lock, stock and barrel.
HooYaH
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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We're never getting Persona 5 are we? :(
LTWheels
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Lol, what if MS purchases them as there way into Japan?
tafer
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Someone needs to explain what can we expect from this stuff.
Minions
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by mao2

I hope you're right...

Game has already been put on discs... too late to stop now.
Kyon
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gunloc

Splitting the IPs between companies would be awful. Someone needs to buy them lock, stock and barrel.

They're already split tho

Originally Posted by LTWheels

Lol, what if MS purchases them as there way into Japan?

Atlus at the end of the day is still "niche" company
Soulflarz
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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So this thread is now the official mourning thread right?

Its just bad news...
catmincer
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(06-27-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by suppaspicasm

EA buys em and renames em to Bioware Japan.

Don't even joke.....
Jintor
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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My gawd.
Mpl90
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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So, according to Mandoric's post, we shouldn't see too many differences in the next future? Hopefully so...
miladesn
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Final Persona
Dresden
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by HooYaH

We're never getting Persona 5 are we? :(

No, but Persona Pachinko should be a worthy replacement.
Jinfash
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Well remember how Microsoft has all that money for game investment?!
DiscoJer
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by ambientmystic

You meant CAPCPOM.

It's a joke. Like Capcom making Castlevania
wrowa
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

nintendo won't be buying them. i don't think sony would either.

tecmo-koei might be a large-ish company that could do it. maaaaaaybe konami? the only rpg franchise they sorta have is dragon's dogma.

The same Konami that bought Hudson?
Minions
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

So, according to Mandoric's post, we shouldn't see too many differences in the next future? Hopefully so...

Depends what their creditors decide to do.

Originally Posted by catmincer

Don't even joke.....

Better than Level 5 or imageepoch buying the Atlus properties.
HooYaH
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dresden

No, but Persona Pachinko should be a worthy replacement.

Isn't Konami notorious for their Pachinko games?
buddha0991
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Well, if this is gonna happen and Atlus gets screwed over, can we at least get SMT4 out? :(

It may be childish, but because we know NOTHING about P5, if that's cancelled, I don't think I would be sad at all. The moment we learned anything about the game, it would be a different story.
CSX
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)

Originally Posted by Gunloc

Splitting the IPs between companies would be awful. Someone needs to buy them lock, stock and barrel.

This. Lets not forget SMT , persona, and other spin offs use a lot of the same assets. That can lead to trouble if the IPs get split and companies actually use them.
MLH
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)

Originally Posted by suppaspicasm

EA buys em and renames em to Bioware Japan.

Why would you even say that?! Talk about kicking people when they are down... : (
Hours Left
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyon

They're already split tho

But being made by two (or more!) separate companies? I shuddered.

But regardless, I think getting Atlus away from Index is the most important thing. Index was bad news from the start.
CheesecakeRecipe
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(06-27-2013, 09:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mandoric

To quote a market research firm's English-language FAQ about the procedure...



Originally Posted by Teikoku Databank

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The tl;dr is that it's definitely a reorganization, rather than liquidation or absorption. Index will continue operating, under the ownership of some combination of current management and current creditors. Think, say, GM or Chrysler.

Making sure this is quoted in the whole for the new page. It may not be entirely dead, folks. At least I certainly hope not.

I'm going to have to prioritize some Atlus purchases ASAP otherwise.
Kyon
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(06-27-2013, 09:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by ULTROS!

Better than Level 5 or imageepoch buying the Atlus properties.

can you IMAGINE that mess?
Bishop89
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(06-27-2013, 09:35 AM)
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Holy crap, Go buy them sony.
KillerTravis
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(06-27-2013, 09:35 AM)
I need Aeana to tell me everything is going to be alright. T_T

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