NeoGAF

Originally Posted by SteeloDMZ

Fuck Mem Aleph. Apparently, she's in this game in some form...

This was one the best final bosses ever.

Some quotes:
(In the 2nd form)
"I HAVE BECOME NAKED POWER."
"CASTING OFF FORM... CASTING OFF REASON...CASTING OFF MY FUTURE."
"MY SOLE DESIRE IS TO CRUSH YOUR SPIRIT INTO ATOMS..."

And she crushes souls, over and over again.

Originally Posted by olimpia84

Do we know if Newegg will be sending the right first printrun for this game after the ProjectXZone fiasco?

We probably won't know until we'll get burned. Hopefully they do it right with it as I've got it pre-ordered with them as well. They were good so far with other Atlus games.

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome

There are however random attacks in which a dozen enemies spawn around you at the same time and get a preemptive attack on you.

Those... can cost you dearly.

I see.....;_;
Its still progress IMO, that makes it more funner ;D

Probably will arrive at my house in 21 July. Can't wait to play it!

I'm not even going to play this, I'm just going rub it all over my body for 60 hours and say I did.

Originally Posted by Aeana

That doesn't say anything about the difficulty.

Fewer difficult has proven to make titles less difficult in the past if other difficulties are not raised to compensate. Speaking of the devil...

Originally Posted by Nags

This was one the best final bosses ever.

Some quotes:
(In the 2nd form)
"I HAVE BECOME NAKED POWER."
"CASTING OFF FORM... CASTING OFF REASON...CASTING OFF MY FUTURE."
"MY SOLE DESIRE IS TO CRUSH YOUR SPIRIT INTO ATOMS..."

And she crushes souls, over and over again.

"the results of getting +3 AGL on every other level up" more like it.

I just wish UPS wouldn't deliver shit so late, Well at least I'll be back from college and be able to hold it in my hands day of release. The anticipation is killing me.

Law/Neutral/Chaos? I'm gonna go for the Chaos route first. Hope it's good.

I wonder how hard mode will work in conjunction with NG+ (assuming this title has NG+...it's sort of a tradition at this point). I wonder if you have to start over or if you can somehow apply hard mode to NG+ and still be challenged.

Originally Posted by BlackJace

I wonder if this is harder than Nocturne.

it's way easier.

Originally Posted by Deified Data

I wonder how hard mode will work in conjunction with NG+ (assuming this title has NG+...it's sort of a tradition at this point). I wonder if you have to start over or if you can somehow apply hard mode to NG+ and still be challenged.

Perhaps you might get a extra press turn in NG+ like in Nocturne, and maybe demons will hit harder like in Soul Hackers NG+, there a lot of possibilities at this point. But I'm sure compendium will transfer over just like all the other games.

Originally Posted by Kazerei

Law/Neutral/Chaos? I'm gonna go for the Chaos route first. Hope it's good.

Neutral BABY, ALL DAY, ERRDAY 24/7!!!! 48/14!!! 72/21!!!!

Originally Posted by Kazerei

Law/Neutral/Chaos? I'm gonna go for the Chaos route first. Hope it's good.

Really hoping this game follows Nocturne's lead and gives us options outside of the Law-Chaos spectrum. I have no problem with the concepts themselves but the proponent characters tend to be obnoxious as hell. Neutral is rarely any better - usually populated by cry-babies who don't want anything to change.

I'm torn whether to play this or not. =/ Not seeing the characters when in battle is a huge turn off for me. I played Nocturne and somewhat liked it, but didn't finished it for some reason. I absolutely love Persona (not for the demon fusions tho).

So tell me, how are the characters and story? Any good? Sell me on the game. Neutral path intrigues me. (loved that about Witcher).

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome

I went neutral first.

I REGRET NOTHING.

This.

As for the game itself, I thought it was really great, with one quite big letdown near the end.

Ah I can't wait for my copy, sadly I'm in Mexico and I think it will take at least an extra week for me to get the game.

Originally Posted by Zukuu

I'm torn whether to play this or not. =/ Not seeing the characters when in battle is a huge turn off for me. I played Nocturne and somewhat liked it, but didn't finished it for some reason. I absolutely love Persona (not for the demon fusions tho).

So tell me, how are the characters and story? Any good? Sell me on the game. Neutral path intrigues me. (loved that about Witcher).

you'll get used to it, don't miss on an amazing game because of that.

Probably going to go Chaos. From the cover it looks like the spiky hair guy is chaos aligned and Jonathan is law. Is Isabeau neutral?

I'm hyped!
It'll be my 1st Shin Megami Tensei game.

I wanna get an S rank with Isabeau so I'm going with her route if she has one.

If not, I'll go with the Chaos guy. He looks legit.

Neutral. It usually means I get to fight all the bosses!

Subbing.

I'm planning to go Neutral, but I could easily see myself being swayed towards Chaos.

Can't believe that the game is so close. So excited to play this!

Originally Posted by perorist

Probably going to go Chaos. From the cover it looks like the spiky hair guy is chaos aligned and Jonathan is law. Is Isabeau neutral?

Isabeau is the bestest. That's all yo. That. Is. All.

Though Walter is pretty cool too.

Fuck Jonathan and his hair.

Do you choose your route?
Sounds like that's the case from the way it's being discussed.

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome

I went neutral first.

I REGRET NOTHING.

Edit: I do think IV is probably a little easier than Nocturne, but I also don't think Nocturne was even remotely as difficult as some people say, outside of the Matador fight. Even he's not that bad if you go in prepared. After that point, if you know how to play SMT properly, you're fine.

IV is similar in that sense though a bit more forgiving for a variety of reasons.

Do the endings require a certain difficulty to unlock them?

I usually go Chaos/Neutral, Law is boring.

Can anyone who beat it tell me how many endings there are? In spoiler tags preferably, for the people who don't want it spoiled.

Originally Posted by Busaiku

Do you choose your route?
Sounds like that's the case from the way it's being discussed.

I want to know that as well. Alignment system, simply choosing, depending on choices you've made? What?

This will be my first SMT game, can't wait!

Originally Posted by Zukuu

I want to know that as well. Alignment system, simply choosing, depending on choices you've made? What?

Route is determined by choices you make throughout the game.

Difficulty has no bearing on what ending you get.

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome

Route is determined by choices you make throughout the game.

Difficulty has no bearing on what ending you get.

And do these choices are quite evident or not ?
By nature I would tend to target neutral, but depending on how the game presents said choices, I imagine it could get tricky, no ?

Originally Posted by Li Kao

And do these choices are quite evident or not ?
By nature I would tend to target neutral, but depending on how the game presents said choices, I imagine it could get tricky, no ?

I haven't played the game, but I've played most SMT games and it's usually(as in almost always) PRETTY obvious. I never check guides and I always get the ending I want.

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome

Isabeau is the bestest. That's all yo. That. Is. All.

How much of that is thanks to Miyuki Sawashiro?

Wonder who's going to do her English voice. $10 on Laura Bailey ( ´_ゝ`)

Hype level THROUGH THE ROOF

Originally Posted by perorist

How much of that is thanks to Miyuki Sawashiro?

Admittedly, she does a great job.

I also admit to perhaps being a huge fan of Miyuki Sawashiro.

I AM NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

Originally Posted by Watashiwa

You and me both, though I'm right at the edge of starting the last dungeon. Just got to go through the Fourth and Fifth kalpas to finish up.



Law isn't boring so much as nightmarishly terrifying. I think they've got the best music in Strange Journey, and Mastema makes a fantastic intro for who he is/what he represents.

Mastema was great at showing how insane the Law route is.

Shin Megami 4 >> Iphone 4

I dont even own the game yet, but I'm calling it out now.

Originally Posted by Watashiwa

Law isn't boring so much as nightmarishly terrifying. I think they've got the best music in Strange Journey, and Mastema makes a fantastic intro for who he is/what he represents.

The appeal of the "Reason" is entirely dependent on the appeal of its proponents, IMO. I think all of the routes hold some degree of merit, but if the characters I'm forced to align with on that path are boring then I'm not going to do it. I thought both Jimenez and Zelenin poorly represented chaos and law, respectively. On the flip side, Amane from Devil Survivor was a great advocate for law while Naoya was a great advocate for chaos. I'll honestly take whichever path I can effectively be talked into taking.

Wait...isn't that black armored chick one of the people from Strange Journey? WTF is she doing here?

Originally Posted by mjc

Wait...isn't that black armored chick one of the people from Strange Journey? WTF is she doing here?

If would seem so, wouldn't it. Looking forward to unraveling her mystery.

Probably just Lucifer, lol

Originally Posted by Deified Data

Can anyone who beat it tell me how many endings there are? In spoiler tags preferably, for the people who don't want it spoiled.

Four: Law, Chaos, Neutral, and a bad ending

Originally Posted by Deified Data

I wonder how hard mode will work in conjunction with NG+ (assuming this title has NG+...it's sort of a tradition at this point). I wonder if you have to start over or if you can somehow apply hard mode to NG+ and still be challenged.

You have some degree of choice in the matter. Either import everything about your character (levels/skills/items/compendium/database/money) or only your compendium and database. There is no way to import demons. Difficulty can be changed at any time outside of battle, it's not locked in at the start of the game.

Pretty excited for this game. I've played a few MegaTen games (nocturne, sj, sh, personas), and they've all been great. This is gonna be the first time outside of SH that I get a MegaTen game on release.

On another note, one of the Destructoid writers I follow said that the 10th was when embargo gets lifted for the game.

Do I have to worry about missables in this game? (other than things near the endgame when you are 'locked' to a L/N/C path) I don't expect it to be an issue but wanted to make sure.

Originally Posted by SteeloDMZ

Fuck Mem Aleph.

Yeah seriously.

End boss spoilers from Strange Journey: I didn't have three demons of each alignment when getting to her, since y'know the game stressed not doing that. Then she has an ability that seals away all demons of a specific alignment, requiring you to have three different types if you want to win. Well I had no choice but to fuse some new ones, and well... I just had not the time nor willpower to grind them up enough to get them strong enough to win.

Originally Posted by Seda

Do I have to worry about missables in this game? (other than things near the endgame when you are 'locked' to a L/N/C path) I don't expect it to be an issue but wanted to make sure.

Some very minor sidequests. At specific points of the game you will be locked out of certain areas and not be able to regain access to them. Fortunately the game makes it rather clear when those points are. But don't worry, the rewards for those sidequests aren't that amazing anyway.