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Poetic.Injustice
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(07-26-2013, 11:53 AM)
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Why has it taken this long for DICE to announce a sequel to Mirror's Edge?

"It's taken this long because we wanted to get to the right concept and the right idea. And Sara Jansson who is producer on it, when she pitched her idea to me and Karl-Magnus, the GM for DICE, I was frankly blown away. I'm like "Finally, you've got it!" and when you hear something like that... She pitched an idea that frankly could only be built on gen 4, is a stunning concept, and when she came to us we knew we had it. And yes, we've been testing ideas and we've been prototyping stuff, and I'm glad that we waited to get the right idea."

http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/85224...r%27s+Edge%22/
Zento_
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(07-26-2013, 11:55 AM)
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I hope that idea was 'no guns'
AmethystEnd
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(07-26-2013, 11:55 AM)
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I call BS. I doubt the reason was any deeper than "Because money."
bronzeP
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(07-26-2013, 11:56 AM)
Karl Magnus is such an awesome name
PetriP-TNT
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(07-26-2013, 11:56 AM)
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Isn't this really old news? Like right after E3 they game the exactly same PR speech about it


Originally Posted by doniewhalberg

Mega old quote man, I don't know why they're recycling that story today, but this was said the day it was announced, in the announcement thread and everything

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586301


There
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digoutyoursoul
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(07-26-2013, 11:56 AM)
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One of my most wanted for next gen
doniewhalberg
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Mega old quote man, I don't know why they're recycling that story today, but this was said the day it was announced, in the announcement thread and everything

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586301
Jaded Alyx
(07-26-2013, 11:56 AM)
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gen 4


-_-
vareon
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(07-26-2013, 11:59 AM)
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Why did EA retcon a whole generation of video games?
PetriP-TNT
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(07-26-2013, 12:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by vareon

Why did EA retcon a whole generation of video games?

But dude, it's the 4th gen of 3D games! The 2D Bideo James are their own thing!
Tiu Neo
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(07-26-2013, 12:01 PM)
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Gen 4? Fuck yeah, Mirror's Edge coming to Super Nintendo!

Yeah, I know, they start counting from the first '3D' generation... and I hate that.
CadetMahoney
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(07-26-2013, 12:02 PM)
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It's taken this long because we wanted to get to the right concept and the right idea.

Originally Posted by AmethystEnd

I call BS. I doubt the reason was any deeper than "Because money."

And watch it be more mainstream and streamlined for casuals.
NewGame
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(07-26-2013, 12:07 PM)
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Mirrors Edge NeoGeo yeeeeah!

What do they mean "right concept and the right idea"? Just do more of the first! Please don't fix the unbroken.
PuppetSlave
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(07-26-2013, 12:08 PM)
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Don't know if my expectations can get any lower for this sequel. Horrible PR quote is horrible.
Jack cw
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(07-26-2013, 12:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by CadetMahoney

And watch it be more mainstream and streamlined for casuals.

Watch for the shooter sequences and the handholding for the CoD audience. I remember EA being pretty disapointed in ME and the easiest way to boost up sales is making it as sgtreamlined as possible. CEO logic.
Skyzard
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(07-26-2013, 12:57 PM)
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That's a lot of talk but I don't feel convinced. In fact, paranoid as I am, I'm a bit worried.

What could she have suggested that would have made such a change/reaction (if he isn't a total bs'er)?

I, I er, get lost in ME and don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing, imagine if we put portal with Mirrors Edge plus some classic tomb raider - make it more linear and have like puzzle rooms to escape from.

If so. Pass. I don't want Mirrors Edge:CoD:Prepare to Die edition. Which is what the the trailer looks like.
The only open aspect I saw was at the end...with the lowres concept art. Hopefully that's just the marketing...but the level looked very sealed buildingishy.
She even had a prison break tattoo done -_-

The slap in the face will be they'll call it open-world. Only done on next-gen, hugeee environment!

Even mirratoidedgyvania would be awful.

Somehow I don't buy that the idea was linked to next-gen. I really hope I'm just being dumb.
LeeRoyBrown
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(07-26-2013, 01:09 PM)
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Can someone please explain to me why EA keeps referring to this gen as Gen 4...why not just call it next gen? And has there not already been more than 4 generations of consoles I mean isnt this like the 7th or 8th?

Just give me no guns and an open world with the same art style with more free running animations. SOLD
J. M. Romeo
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(07-26-2013, 01:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

-_-

I know. It was explained already, it's a system they put in place for their 3D assets starting on the PSX generation.

Hence, gen 4. Don't worry about the revisionism, it's been covered already.
Skyzard
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(07-26-2013, 01:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by LeeRoyBrown

Can someone please explain to me why EA keeps referring to this gen as Gen 4...why not just call it next gen? And has there not already been more than 4 generations of consoles I mean isnt this like the 7th or 8th?

Just give me no guns and an open world with the same art style with more free running animations. SOLD

PS4's gen is the logical explanation.
Fersis
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(07-26-2013, 01:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by bronzeP

Karl Magnus is such an awesome name

Thats just his nickname, his real name is Max Power.
Jaded Alyx
(07-26-2013, 01:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by J. M. Romeo

I know. It was explained already, it's a system they put in place for their 3D assets starting on the PSX generation.

Hence, gen 4. Don't worry about the revisionism, it's been covered already.

I know. It just bugs me since they use it so often (and I think it's silly).
Ein Bear
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(07-26-2013, 01:27 PM)
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I wish they'd stop referring it as 'Gen 4'. If that's what they want to call it internally, then fine, sure, whatever. But it bugs the hell out of me in press stuff.
AuthenticM
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(07-26-2013, 01:42 PM)
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Gen 4 bullshit.
Suairyu
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(07-26-2013, 01:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zento_

I hope that idea was 'no guns'

Yes, let's remove an integral element of the game design in order to appease people who tried to play the game in a manner it wasn't meant to be played.

Originally Posted by Ein Bear

I wish they'd stop referring it as 'Gen 4'. If that's what they want to call it internally, then fine, sure, whatever. But it bugs the hell out of me in press stuff.

Despite what others would tell you (and furiously quote wikipedia to educate you), there is no such official designation as a "generation". It's an invented construct. EA calling this "gen 4" makes as much sense as whatever it is people around here want to call it. I'm astounded at how bent out of shape people get over this.
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randomrosso
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(07-26-2013, 01:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

-_-

Originally Posted by LeeRoyBrown

Can someone please explain to me why EA keeps referring to this gen as Gen 4...why not just call it next gen? And has there not already been more than 4 generations of consoles I mean isnt this like the 7th or 8th?

Just give me no guns and an open world with the same art style with more free running animations. SOLD

Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

I know. It just bugs me since they use it so often (and I think it's silly).

Originally Posted by Ein Bear

I wish they'd stop referring it as 'Gen 4'. If that's what they want to call it internally, then fine, sure, whatever. But it bugs the hell out of me in press stuff.

Originally Posted by AuthenticM

Gen 4 bullshit.

Why does this matter in the slightest? (even more so, why would this 'bug' you?)
Goldrusher
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(07-26-2013, 01:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zento_

I hope that idea was 'no guns'

Transcript of the meeting:

"Anyone have ideas for a sequel?"

"How about a remake?"

"Brilliant!"

Skyzard
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(07-26-2013, 01:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Goldrusher

Transcript of the dream meeting:

ftfy

I hope you're right though.
Jaded Alyx
(07-26-2013, 02:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by randomrosso

Why does this matter in the slightest? (even more so, why would this 'bug' you?)

Because it's not the 4th generation, and they keep using the term as if everyone else does. Which we don't. It's minor, but annoying all the same.
w1gglyjones
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(07-26-2013, 02:05 PM)
They make it sound like they kept testing ideas and then the producer comes up with some sort of "stunning" new concept for the game... when fans just wanted a sequel. What exactly does this new concept bring to the table that makes it so "right"?
JudgeB
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(07-26-2013, 02:38 PM)
Super old quote
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(07-26-2013, 02:40 PM)
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When will EA explain why they are making less games in Gen4?
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(07-26-2013, 02:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ein Bear

I wish they'd stop referring it as 'Gen 4'. If that's what they want to call it internally, then fine, sure, whatever. But it bugs the hell out of me in press stuff.

It's probably just habit since that's their internal name. I don't think they even realize that they're doing it.

Originally Posted by randomrosso

Why does this matter in the slightest? (even more so, why would this 'bug' you?)

I don't understand it either. Some people get really mad about it for no reason. No one except EA uses it, we all know what they mean, and you don't have to use it.
H3XAntiStyle
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(07-26-2013, 02:45 PM)
Can't wait to play this game on my SNES.

Whatever, my buddy was asking me how they could EVER make an ME2 and my first response was remake, so hey, I was right. As long as there are no forced gun moments we'll be getting it.
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Originally Posted by jordan0386

When will EA explain why they are making less games in Gen4?

In case you're serious, they already did.

They're taking the same amount of money they spent before and spending it on less projects.
Warablo
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(07-26-2013, 02:50 PM)
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I keep wondering what this idea pitched was..

Anyway, I enjoyed the art style of Mirrors Edge and glad they kept it that way by the looks of the trailer. I hope we learn more about the story and atmosphere of the city/lore.
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(07-26-2013, 02:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by vareon

Why did EA retcon a whole generation of video games?

8-bit - Gen 1
16-bit - Gen 2
32/64 bit - Gen 3
DC/PS2/Xbox/GC/Wii - Gen 4
360/PS3/WiiU - Gen 5
Xbone/PS4 - Gen 6

I can't possibly fathom how they're coming up with 5.
TalesOfWin
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(07-26-2013, 02:55 PM)
so this game has a female director?

that's a good thing. This industry needs more female input.

edit: found her profile pic at dice: http://dice.se/about/sara-jansson/

Skyzard
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(07-26-2013, 02:55 PM)
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^ sexist

oh nice edit, nvm

Originally Posted by antitrop

8-bit - Gen 1
16-bit - Gen 2
32/64 bit - Gen 3
DC/PS2/Xbox/GC/Wii - Gen 4
360/PS3/WiiU - Gen 5
Xbone/PS4 - Gen 6

I can't possibly fathom how they're coming up with 5.

3D games?
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(07-26-2013, 02:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

8-bit - Gen 1
16-bit - Gen 2
32/64 bit - Gen 3
DC/PS2/Xbox/GC/Wii - Gen 4
360/PS3/WiiU - Gen 5
Xbone/PS4 - Gen 6

I can't possibly fathom how they're coming up with 5.

we are in gen 8
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(07-26-2013, 02:59 PM)
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They keep saying this, but I want to know what the idea is. What single idea could resurrect Mirror's Edge? Knowing EA I fear for my pockets and dignity.
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Originally Posted by injurai

we are in gen 8

The New World of Video Games began with the Atari Crash of the Mid-80's.

It's like the separation of The Old Testament and The New Testament in The Bible, and ACE and BCE.
TalesOfWin
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(07-26-2013, 03:00 PM)

Originally Posted by injurai

we are in gen 8

it's silly to list what gen we're in since we hardly even know. The 8-bit is sure as hell not the 1st gen since videogames has existed since pong and atari.
Suairyu
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(07-26-2013, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by injurai

we are in gen 8

says who
peakish
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(07-26-2013, 03:09 PM)
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Having played through the original for the first time this week I'll say that I'm looking forward to this game right now. It has a ton of flaws but something original like it wins out against almost anything else I can choose to play.

Originally Posted by Suairyu

Yes, let's remove an integral element of the game design in order to appease people who tried to play the game in a manner it wasn't meant to be played.

I liked that you had the option to grab guns and just fire away, I mostly didn't (except the really hard parts where I was mostly forced into it) but it was handled in a cool way. Overall though I'd like a smaller focus on combat situations, the calmer parts where I had to hold up and look around for how to proceed were my favorite parts of the game by far - shifting the balance a bit more towards those would also make the stressful situations have a larger impact, I think.
Kurdel
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(07-26-2013, 03:11 PM)
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Defining hardware generations is a waste of time and energy.
WillyFive
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(07-26-2013, 03:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suairyu

says who

There were videogame systems before the NES.
Whompa
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(07-26-2013, 03:22 PM)
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they keep tossing in that awkward, "gen 4" word usage.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7qTHbOEiDY
injurai
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(07-26-2013, 03:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suairyu

says who

Says the people that have been documenting the history of video game home consoles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games

And while you may still claim it's subjective, there are reasons that this is accepted, and to vehemently push for another definition is just taking the piss in attempts to dilute the what these generational definitions are correlating to.

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