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StoopKid
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(07-27-2013, 08:25 PM)
Edit : nvm
V1cK dB
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(07-27-2013, 08:25 PM)

Originally Posted by googleplex

It's like you live in an alternate universe with Sony didn't make the Vita OS. The Vita OS curb stomps the shit out if the 360's and PS3.

I guess I do. Vita? Seriously?
Latvian Hitman
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(07-27-2013, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by JonathanPower

If MS was able to do more using less memory, they probably had better OS coders.

Of course they do. That's their specialty.

Originally Posted by rudieboy77

So now it is 6GB for games? Is this a legit number or just an assumption?

Right now, the insider info we have only points to the numbers in the DF article being wrong. Any specific numbers being thrown around by the rest of us are just guesswork.
noobasuar
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)

Originally Posted by StoopKid

Edit : nvm

What was that?
googleplex
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by V1cK dB

I guess I do. Vita? Seriously?


Vita Seriously. Pick up one and use it. Any worries about the PS4 OS will melt away.
Aginor
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)
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All types a salt up in this muthaf*cka
thuway
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Style Fox

6GB is sweet.

It is such a nice number too. Enough for the OS, and just enough for games. :)
Codeblew
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Símon

Show me a 10-line program which eats up 8 GB of RAM, please.

How about 1 line?

auto p = new char[(2^30)*8];
Arai
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)
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That's still 3 freaking GB out of the 8 reserved for the OS or whatever, the hell?
A bit overkill on the reservation, I mean like damn what are they going to need all that memory for?
shinnn
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(07-27-2013, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by KAL2006

Actually I am pissed Sony are charging for online. However I have no choice, I don't want to game on PC and both nextgen consoles charge for online play, so I have to go for the cheaper option, PSN+ is cheaper than Gold and of course the system is cheaper than Xbox One. I blame Sony for charging for online, but I also blame the people who payed for Gold too.

Are you sure you got pissed and blamed Sony?

Originally Posted by KAL2006

As a PSN+ subscriber this doesn't affect me, but I can see why people would be pissed (note PSN+ is awesome so dont worry). I am glad Sony didn't go all out by blocking Netflix and etc.

StoopKid
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(07-27-2013, 08:29 PM)

Originally Posted by noobasuar

What was that?

It was off topic
Kolgar
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(07-27-2013, 08:29 PM)
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Gotta love thuway. Thanks, man! Now I can go about enjoying my weekend. ;)
Panajev2001a
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(07-27-2013, 08:29 PM)

Originally Posted by V1cK dB

I guess I do. Vita? Seriously?

Yes, seriously. I kind of want to see people attacking that OS's performance, features, responsiveness, and usability (even though there is a non trivial portion of subjectivity there) or at least try to do so.
Same for the actual CPU, RAM setup, and GPU used.
Wickerbasket
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(07-27-2013, 08:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by shinnn

Are you sure you got pissed and blamed Sony?

What you quoted doesn't seem to disagree with what he said. He can be pissed about it and have it still not affect him.

It doesn't affect me either since I was a PS+ subscriber, but I'm still annoyed that they're charging for online.

It's the difference between offering a service people want to have and being forced into a service because they need it to fully enjoy their games.
googleplex
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(07-27-2013, 08:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Takuya

I'm going to go with:

- 5.5 dedicated (Game)
- 0.5 flex (Game)
- 1.5 dedicated OS
- 0.5 (reserved - can be freed later on)


My thinking as will.
Ryuuga
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(07-27-2013, 08:30 PM)
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I have a feeling there will be a castle vidcons about all this.
Pistolero
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(07-27-2013, 08:31 PM)
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5 GB of GDDR is sufficient for the kind of CPU-GPU the console has.
It's still a better RAM than the one found in the X-One, paired with a more powerful GPU (The message is aimed at the insecure Sony fans!).
Back when the console was thought to have only 4 GB of RAM, it was still deemed the more adept graphical system of the two. Now Sony just matched MS in terms of quantity...
Vestal
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(07-27-2013, 08:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Panajev2001a

Yes, seriously. I kind of want to see people attacking that OS's performance, features, responsiveness, and usability (even though there is a non trivial portion of subjectivity there) or at least try to do so.
Same for the actual CPU, RAM setup, and GPU used.

3months from release. Would love to see it in action not just concept videos.
thuway
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(07-27-2013, 08:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pistolero

5 GB of GDDR is sufficient for the kind of CPU-GPU the console has.
It's still a better RAM than the one found in the X-One, paired with a more powerful GPU (The message is aimed at the insecure Sony fans!).
Back when the console was thought to have only 4 GB of RAM, it was still deemed the more adept graphical system of the two. Now Sony just matched MS in terms of quantity...

Wouldn't you like 6 though? 6 is such a nice round, even number... It has a nice ring to it too, and requires only three letters to spell : SIX .
KAL2006
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by shinnn

Are you sure you got pissed and blamed Sony?

Again as a PSN+ it doesn't affect me, however now I am concerned PSN+ could potentially get worse with IGC as you are required to have PSN+ for online play. But only time will tell.
Raymo
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.
famousmortimer
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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The Vita OS is pretty awesome. You can put a game into the background in less than a second, start up apps like the browser/twitter/audioplayer/etc with the game still running. It has cross game parties and chat. It's always butter smooth.


It needs work... it's not iOS or Android... but it's good. It's definitely the most full featured OS on a gaming console currently. Until the x1 and ps4 come out, i'm sure.
IonicSnake
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by thuway

Wouldn't you like 6 though? 6 is such a nice round, even number... It has a nice ring to it too, and requires only three letters to spell : SIX .

It even got one of the DualShock buttons in it!
googleplex
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by thuway

Wouldn't you like 6 though? 6 is such a nice round, even number... It has a nice ring to it too, and requires only three letters to spell : SIX .


Your a tease thuway.
FinalStageBoss
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by thuway

I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB :-).

justmyopinion mang.

6gb it is
Vestal
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(07-27-2013, 08:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.


/thread
famousmortimer
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(07-27-2013, 08:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.


That's what makes the outrage here so hysterical. It's all outrage from fans... without a single dev anywhere on the planet complaining about it. And the devs knew this all along...
BlackFlip
(07-27-2013, 08:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by shinnn

Are you sure you got pissed and blamed Sony?

Man I bet you thought you had something great there didn't you.
Bam Bam Baklava
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(07-27-2013, 08:34 PM)
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I wonder what impact page memory will have. This will be the first time they do something like that on consoles right?
Notrollious
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(07-27-2013, 08:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Codeblew

How about 1 line?

auto p = new char[(2^30)*8];

pfft i bet that wouldn't even compile bro
BruceLeeRoy
(07-27-2013, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by thuway

It is such a nice number too. Enough for the OS, and just enough for games. :)

Ah thuway dropping the number. None of my guys let me say anything.
R dott B
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(07-27-2013, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

Heh
thuway
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(07-27-2013, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by BruceLeeRoy

Ah thuway dropping the number. None of my guys let me say anything.

fastford58
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(07-27-2013, 08:37 PM)
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I knew it lol. Thanks Thuway, fmort, et al.

Can we stop this train already?
JohnnySasaki86
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(07-27-2013, 08:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kolgar

Gotta love thuway. Thanks, man! Now I can go about enjoying my weekend. ;)

He made it very clear its just his opinion. Nothin confirmed or from his inside sources.
Zoned
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(07-27-2013, 08:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

Right on the money.
James Sawyer Ford
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(07-27-2013, 08:38 PM)
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So 6 GB pretty much confirmed now.

Why everyone got so bent out of shape about this is beyond me.

6/2 split seems extremely reasonable - gives them ample RAM for games and ample room for OS expansion.

Eurogamer's credibility is seriously hurting right now. Leadbetter has been doing awful work the last month.
LiquidMetal14
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(07-27-2013, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by JohnnySasaki86

He made it very clear its just his opinion. Nothin confirmed or from his inside sources.

True, lets wait for MSFT to say something about PS4's memory before believing.
Templar_Dante
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(07-27-2013, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by V1cK dB

I guess I do. Vita? Seriously?

Yes. Seriously.
Wynnebeck
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(07-27-2013, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by BruceLeeRoy

Ah thuway dropping the number. None of my guys let me say anything.

Originally Posted by thuway

AWWWW SHIT. What you fools know!? O_O
Garrett 2U
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(07-27-2013, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

lol so true
devs have been working with 1/10th of that for the past decade, not to mention the bandwidth increase of GDDR5
they are all ecstatic.
BlackFlip
(07-27-2013, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

Originally Posted by Zoned

Right on the money.


Your saying people didn't bring up that same point about devs being happy many times in the first thread?
Codeblew
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(07-27-2013, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Notrollious

pfft i bet that wouldn't even compile bro

It would compile but it would crash and burn when you ran it on the PS4.
Cidd
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(07-27-2013, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

Correct sir.

FINALBOSS
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(07-27-2013, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by JohnnySasaki86

He made it very clear its just his opinion. Nothin confirmed or from his inside sources.

It's 6GB.
JohnnySasaki86
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(07-27-2013, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

yep! lol. The sad thing is this 6gb is just guess by thuway based on his opinion, and people are acting like its confirmed. sign...people want to believe it so bad.
Zornack
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(07-27-2013, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raymo

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.

I don't think thats it. I think what's possibly upsetting some people is how much of the system's RAM would be devoted to the OS compared to games in the 5/3 scenario.

3 gigs is 37.5% of the RAM going to the OS. That seems like a lot. Is it really? I have no clue, but a 6/2 split (25% to OS) is more in line with the numbers from this past gen (512 MB RAM, 120 of it going to the OS at launch, so 23% to OS).
KoopaTheCasual
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(07-27-2013, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by noobasuar

Yeah I was. But I was assuming that Microsoft was going to have full backwards compatibility.

...I hope the incredibly irony of your post isn't lost on you.
Bunta
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(07-27-2013, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by BruceLeeRoy

Ah thuway dropping the number. None of my guys let me say anything.

6GB it is, I guess.
Templar_Dante
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(07-27-2013, 08:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Arai

That's still 3 freaking GB out of the 8 reserved for the OS or whatever, the hell?
A bit overkill on the reservation, I mean like damn what are they going to need all that memory for?

Occulus Rift support (or similar product).
Forteleza type fuctionality, but better ;), perhaps?

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