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googleplex
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(07-27-2013, 11:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Wait. Are people doubting Bruce and thuway?


I know... You think people would have learned by now.
B.O.O.M
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(07-27-2013, 11:49 PM)
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Are some of you fucking real now? 4.5-5.5 GB will be plenty going forward. It's like this is the first console cycle some of you have seen or something
Stoof
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(07-27-2013, 11:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Wait. Are people doubting Bruce and thuway?

This is Carnival of Stupid: Part ∞ after all.
Mr. Somebody
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(07-27-2013, 11:50 PM)

Originally Posted by c0de

If they had 4gb games would still be fine but it would have made more headaches to the people who are currently adjusting freebsd for their purposes.

Do you know which game currently on the PC market uses the most ram right now and if so how much does it use?
Kyoufu
(07-27-2013, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Wait. Are people doubting Bruce and thuway?

What have they said? I haven't seen the posts. :/
digoutyoursoul
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(07-27-2013, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by B.O.O.M

Are some of you fucking real now? 4.5-5.5 GB will be plenty going forward. It's like this is the first console cycle some of you have seen or something

PS4 will have amazing games as will Xbox One. Honestly sometimes I think some folk on here are far too concerned what others think about their preferences when the reality is no one gives a shit
casmith07
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(07-27-2013, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Stoof

This is Carnival of Stupid: Part ∞ after all.

Turn that infinity on it's side...and you get an 8!

#tinfoilonmyhead
BigTnaples
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(07-27-2013, 11:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Wait. Are people doubting Bruce and thuway?

I missed what they said, quote for convenience?
Guymelef
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(07-27-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

What have they said? I haven't seen the posts. :/

6GB.
Arai
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(07-27-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

What have they said? I haven't seen the posts. :/

Not much, just gave opinions, still nothing confirmed....but panic everywhere :)
Saberus
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(07-27-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Wait. Are people doubting Bruce and thuway?

Yup.. some people just want to watch the world burn.
Unknown Soldier
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(07-27-2013, 11:54 PM)
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These last 3 days have seen the Carnival of Stupid grow to such a dense mass that it has collapsed upon itself and become a Singularity of Stupid.
Kyoufu
(07-27-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guymelef

6GB.

6GB?

That's more than Xbone, no?

2GB for the OS seems reasonable.
reptilescorpio
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(07-27-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by OldAsUrSock

sub-hd and -30fps can carry anything long.

Wipeout HD was pretty fucking sweet
blitzcloud
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(07-27-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by BigTnaples

Yes? And it has held back the industry for far too long.


Devs literally having to cut things like weapon holstering because they had no ram left. Or smaller maps. Gimped textures. Endless loading screens and loading cells. etc etc etc.

This provides me laughs when combined with someone carrying something lnintendo related while he tries to blame sony for developers essentially wanting to port over everything.
adixon
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(07-27-2013, 11:55 PM)
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So is this basically what happens when one side of the console war doesn't have bad news for a few months? Previously reliable sites start jumping the shark and making stuff up? Weird to watch it unfold.
Kagari
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(07-27-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

6GB?

That's more than Xbone, no?

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.
Ishida
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(07-27-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

What have they said? I haven't seen the posts. :/

They pretty much confirmed 6GB reserved for Devs.
JABEE
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(07-27-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

Interesting. Where did DF get their information?
Cidd
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(07-27-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

:)
DeadlyVirus
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(07-27-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by digoutyoursoul

PS4 will have amazing games as will Xbox One. Honestly sometimes I think some folk on here are far too concerned what others think about their preferences when the reality is no one gives a shit

Yeah, they'll be playing Killzone: SF or Infamous: SS and thinking "Oh, I wish this used 1GB more RAM"
andycapps
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(07-27-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

There you go everyone.

Too bad the OP can't be updated. I trust them more than DF.
Arai
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(07-27-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

Oh, so it's hereby confirmed to be 6GB for games 2GB reserved for the OS?
Rejoice! That's well balanced and should be enough for everything they want or will want to do in the future.
Guymelef
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(07-27-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

So... we have three now.
gundamkyoukai
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(07-27-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

Well that is the number i was expecting so no problem imo .
Respawn
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(07-27-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

6GB?

That's more than Xbone, no?

2GB for the OS seems reasonable.

Even if it was 4 or 5 it would still out power Microsofts solution.
DragonSworne
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(07-27-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by BigTnaples

I missed what they said, quote for convenience?

By thuway

Originally Posted by thuway

The number 6 is in your future if you choose it. It might not be today, it might not be tomorrow, but the number 6 is in your future. Do you like 6?

I am seriously out now.

-----

Originally Posted by thuway

I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB :-).

justmyopinion mang.

kasane
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(07-27-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Wait. Are people doubting Bruce and thuway?

Yes they are.

Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

Kagari joins the fray
BRUTALBOWN
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(07-27-2013, 11:59 PM)

Originally Posted by c0de

So DDR3 is crappy ram now? Man, this is getting ridiculous, really... I don't say DDR3 is as good as GDDR5 for games but the comparison itself is invalid as it does not translate 1:1 on consoles. Accept this or don't.

adixon
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(07-28-2013, 12:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Respawn

Even if it was 4 or 5 it would still out power Microsofts solution.

Yes, but 6 gigs would pretty clearly show that DF is willing to publish anything at this point, wouldn't it? Or at least that they're really stretching for negatives.

I'm sort of more interested in seeing who is wrong in this case than I am in the tech specs, since one more gig of RAM over the xbox is probably not going to make any difference. (It probably won't even be used in multiplats.)
eorl
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(07-28-2013, 12:02 AM)
Still getting quality games on both systems? Check.

Still going to see both consoles do well enough? Check.

Oh wait, what was wrong?
Unknown Soldier
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(07-28-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by JABEE

Interesting. Where did DF get their information?

Microsoft probably.
Ryu1999
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(07-28-2013, 12:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by adixon

Yes, but 6 gigs would pretty clearly show that DF is willing to publish anything at this point, wouldn't it? Or at least that they're really stretching for negatives.

I'm sort of more interested in seeing who is wrong in this case than I am in the tech specs, since one more gig of RAM over the xbox is probably not going to make any difference. (It probably won't even be used in multiplats.)

That's still a 20% difference...but yeah, I'm pretty sure most multiplat developers will be too lazy to really utilize it.
Respawn
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(07-28-2013, 12:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by adixon

Yes, but 6 gigs would pretty clearly show that DF is willing to publish anything at this point, wouldn't it?

I'm sort of more interested in seeing who is wrong in this case than I am in the tech specs, since one more gig of RAM over the xbox is probably not going to make any difference. (It probably won't even be used in multiplats.)

If the devs can use the ram they will. Yeah and I'm not sure what's going on with DF lately.
zerodayPopbot
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(07-28-2013, 12:03 AM)
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6 for games and 2 os is ok then.
Trevelyon
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(07-28-2013, 12:04 AM)
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Luddbutter. Derpfy Foundry.
c0de
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(07-28-2013, 12:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Somebody

Do you know which game currently on the PC market uses the most ram right now and if so how much does it use?

No but this doesn't really translate to consoles as the games are "optimized" in a more general way because of the variety of hardware. I quitted gaming on PC a good while ago (if you don't count running emulators as gaming on PC).
SSM25
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(07-28-2013, 12:07 AM)
Wait what happened? 6 GB now? What?where? How?
Almighty
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(07-28-2013, 12:07 AM)
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Two to three gigs reserved for the OS huh. Hopefully that means I no longer have to hear about how consoles can do more then more powerful PCs because they have no OS overhead. Both the One and the Ps4 sound like they have OS overhead to me.

System wars aside I am kind of disappointed by this news. Nothing too major, but I was looking forward to seeing games use the rumored(at the time) 7 gigs the Ps4 would give them.
nib95
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(07-28-2013, 12:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

You, Thuway and Bruce? 6gb it is. I'm cool with that. 2gb for the OS isn't wild.
teh_pwn
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(07-28-2013, 12:09 AM)
2 GB for the OS is a lot more reasonable if it's cram packed with always running, rich software. It's still high, but believable. 3 GB for Windows 8 HTPCs that have 2 apps open isn't believable.
Stoof
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(07-28-2013, 12:10 AM)
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6 GBs of GDDR5 Soda Confirmed
paperheart
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(07-28-2013, 12:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by zerodayPopbot

6 for games and 2 os is ok then.

Agreed. 2 GB should be enough to have the OS operate smoothly and have wiggle room for any future updates. 6GB for gaming is great, and I can not wait to see what Naughty Dog is going to do with all that memory.
LiquidMetal14
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(07-28-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Hopefully the Retro City Rampage blog doesn't go ignored.
Cidd
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(07-28-2013, 12:11 AM)
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I think it's about time Sony share a bit more info on the PS4's OS, I'm not worried about the games side of things.
Forceatowulf
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(07-28-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

Yes. I'll back up their source on this one.

BigTnaples
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(07-28-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by nib95

You, Thuway and Bruce? 6gb it is. I'm cool with that. 2gb for the OS isn't wild.

Cool. 5.5 vs 6 is not a monumental difference, but still a good amount, and some cushion for late cycle games. I can dig it.
Kagari
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(07-28-2013, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by teh_pwn

2 GB for the OS is a lot more reasonable if it's cram packed with always running, rich software. It's still high, but believable. 3 GB for Windows 8 HTPCs that have 2 apps open isn't believable.

People have mentioned this in the thread already but basically they want a bit of overhead for the OS starting out so they don't end up in another PS3-like situation with little to no RAM to add important or popular features. That said, you can also expect the current OS footprint to shrink over time, much as it has with the PS3 as well.
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(07-28-2013, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

People have mentioned this in the thread already but basically they want a bit of overhead for the OS starting out so they don't end up in another PS3-like situation with little to no RAM to add important or popular features. That said, you can also expect the current OS footprint to shrink over time, much as it has with the PS3 as well.

Sounds good.
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(07-28-2013, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

People have mentioned this in the thread already but basically they want a bit of overhead for the OS starting out so they don't end up in another PS3-like situation with little to no RAM to add important or popular features. That said, you can also expect the current OS footprint to shrink over time, much as it has with the PS3 as well.

yup

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