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Mondy
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(Yesterday, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shaneus

Rage quit? Is that his final editorial before leaving the newspaper or something?

It will be after Newscorp are swallowed up by the very thing they rant against.
Arksy
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(Yesterday, 09:44 PM)
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Wow people are actually worried for the ABC. I'm seeing save the ABC petitions all over my wall and news feed. Don't be, the ABC ain't going anywhere. Abbott is too much of a Burkian to want to change it.
Jintor
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(Yesterday, 10:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Arksy

Wow people are actually worried for the ABC.

Yeah, I can't imagine why
bobnowhere
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(Yesterday, 10:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Arksy

Wow people are actually worried for the ABC. I'm seeing save the ABC petitions all over my wall and news feed. Don't be, the ABC ain't going anywhere. Abbott is too much of a Burkian to want to change it.

I imagine there are some who would like to sell off the ABC but I can't see Abbott ever being party to it. He might lose a vote.
lexi
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(Yesterday, 11:03 PM)
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That Cory Bernadi is still in politics is a fucking disgrace. Fuck the LNP.
Myansie
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(Yesterday, 11:55 PM)
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The debt ceiling deal from an economics and executive perspective is absolutely fantastic. The politics behind it happening is beyond bizarre. Great work by the greens.
bomma_man
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(Today, 03:01 AM)
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There are few things in politics that are both good for the country and absolutely hilarious and this debt ceiling deal is one of them.
lexi
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(Today, 03:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scott Ludlam's motherfucking smackdown

“What kind of government takes stock of the collective years of experience of the public sector, bolstered with the kind of private sector expertise that we see within the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, and immediately embarks on a process of mass sackings and redundancies?

We know who has set the template: people like Colin Barnett and Campbell Newman, a yawning vacuum of imagination, yesterday’s men who have somehow deluded themselves into thinking that something as powerful and dangerous as the global climate system can be subordinated for momentary political advantage.

So this is your big moment. This is the moment where you propose to dismantle the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, which will cost the budget something in the order of $200 million a year and crash the renewable energy sector in Australia just as it is finding its strength.

What I do not understand is why all of you on that side of the chamber are suddenly looking so shaky. All the bluster has gone out of you. The Liberals put up one speaker yesterday, Senator Abetz, who quickly ran through the same tired talking points that he has been reciting for three years and then sat down.

The rest of the Liberal Party have stayed in their offices and the Nationals have not showed up at all at your moment of triumph, and that is what I am struggling to understand.

In one year, the Clean Energy Finance Corporation has already achieved nearly four million tonnes of carbon emissions abatement—more than half of our annual target. For all of the strange financial illiteracy on display on the other side—people calling it a hedge fund or Bob Brown’s bank—this is not a grants organisation and this is not writing out cheques that the Commonwealth does not get back. It is making money for the taxpayer of approximately $2.40 for every tonne of carbon abated.

Who knew that you could actually make a financial return to the taxpayer at the same time as eliminating greenhouse gas emissions and creating jobs in the sunrise industries of the 21st century? It is generating a 7.3 per cent return on investment, which is nearly four per cent above the standard government bond rate. It is an entity that is filling the budget vacuum that has been left by your proposals to abolish the carbon price and the mining tax and it attracts just under $3 from the private sector for every dollar that it invests.

How awkward for you to discover in a committee hearing that this entity that you propose to wreck is actually making a financial return to the taxpayer. How exactly does that square with your budget emergency and your desperation to attack the Public Service, cut education spending, cut health spending and abolish public transport funding because you are in such a desperate budget emergency? Yet, at the same time, you line up to kick apart an entity that is making, and intends to make, a $200 million return on the taxpayers’ investment.

The CEFC, as others have noted, is one of 14 co-financing institutions around the world that are catalysing and creating huge investment in renewable energy. Bloomberg New Energy Finance believe the investment in one year is upwards of $58 billion in renewable energy and $109 billion in energy efficiency globally. At last we have the Australian parliament and the Australian government doing its bit. As the empty government benches show, maybe you are not quite as proud of this as you might have displayed during the people’s revolt.

I have had a bit to do with the Clean Energy Finance Corporation in Western Australia. They briefed a meeting, ironically enough, of your stakeholders—the mining industry—in Kalgoorlie earlier this year to explain how the mechanism would work. They said: ‘We are not a grants organisation. We are not here to write out cheques that we won’t see again. We are here to get the industry on its feet.’ And the first people at the front of the queue will be the gold and nickel producers in the goldfields who are looking for some kind of hedge against skyrocketing gas and diesel prices. They are the ones who will build the first iteration of this technology in Western Australia. Not because they are driven by the climate imperative—they are driven by commercial imperatives and they are looking to get technology into the ground that can protect them from rising energy costs.”

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/save...dictable-24000
Myansie
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(Today, 04:59 AM)
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Abbott will dissolve it and reform it under his direct action plan. A total waste of time, money and opportunity, but this is an irrationally bitter government bent on wiping gillard's legacy from the Australian record.

Turnbull and hockey are the only two who seem to have tweaked that the opposition rhetoric was just that and in power you have to actually govern for the collective. Even bishop has been disappointing.
Dryk
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(Today, 05:42 AM)
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The Greens are the ones talking the most about financial responsibility this week. It's really interesting. In more sombre news it looks like the Coalitions lie regarding that $1.2 billion has taken hold as "fact" because the media just passed it on. Good job guys.

Originally Posted by Myansie

A total waste of time, money and opportunity

This year in politics :\
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Dryk
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(Today, 06:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by lexi

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/save...dictable-24000

Compare the only Liberal speaker

I would like to ask Senator Milne before she goes why it is that Australia needs to do more to save the world. Senator Milne, is it not true that Australia emits less than 1.4 per cent of carbon emissions in the world? Tell me, someone: is that not true?

Senator Thorp interjecting—

I hear 'per capita'. Australia needs to do more, we were told. We emit less than 1.4 per cent of the world's emissions of carbon. Labor's proposal, supported by the Greens and indeed supported by the coalition, was to reduce our emissions by five per cent. Five per cent of 1.4 per cent—you do the arithmetic. Australia is doing something, and it is proposed by the current government to be doing something. We will reduce our emissions, but we will do it by direct action. We will not do it with the imposition of the world's greatest carbon tax. We will not be leading the world when the world has to do something if it is as concerned as Senator Milne tells us it is.

This debate today, and this whole debate around this package of bills, is about keeping a commitment made to the Australian public prior to an election. That is what we are very keen and determined to do. We are unlike the Labor Party, who before the 2010 election promised us they would not be introducing a carbon tax. Then, immediately following the election, they broke their promise to the Australian public. We do not intend to do that. We intend to meet the commitments we made, which the Australian people supported. This is what the Australian people wanted and, under the Abbott government, this is what they will get.

That is why we want to get rid of it. We want to do our part in reducing the electricity bills for average Australians, for ordinary Australians. They agreed with us. That is why they voted for us in spades at the last election. That is why they are desperately waiting for this parliament to do what we promised to do to reduce their electricity bills and remove the carbon tax.

I see there is a long, long list of Labor speakers, because they are going to filibuster this debate through until 1 July, they would hope, and with the support of the Greens they will probably be able to do it. But I ask the Labor speakers, any one of them, to tell me these things. If the carbon tax is so good, why did you promise before the 2010 election not to bring it in? Is it true that Australia is emitting less than 1.4 per cent of the world's emissions of carbon? How is the Labor Party's proposal to reduce those emissions by five per cent going to save all of the ills that Senator Milne is predicting are going to confront the globe?

I am one of those who accept that the climate is changing. As I have often said in this place, once upon a time the centre of Australia was a rainforest. I understand that once upon a time the globe was covered in ice. Of course the climate changes. It always has done. But, in spite of Senator Milne's scepticism and accusation against anyone who does not agree with her, there are equally as many reputable scientists who challenge, or who doubt, that it is man's involvement that has caused the climate change in recent times. You will notice that the Greens used to call it global warming. Now, it is climate change.

Debate interrupted.

The only arguments they're bringing to the table are "It's somebody else's problem"
lexi
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(Today, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dryk

Compare the only Liberal speaker



The only arguments they're bringing to the table are "It's somebody else's problem"

Totally intellectually dishonest, no fucking surprise from a lib.
r1chard
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(Today, 09:08 AM)
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The ASIS officer who came forward to reveal details of the Australian black op to bug East Timor government offices in 2004 is going down. He will be charged. He will be convicted. He will be jailed.

A good man gets taken down

And there's fuckall we can do.
markot
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(Today, 09:10 AM)
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Christmas Island incident

A boat carrying dozens of asylum seekers has made it to Christmas Island without being detected.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-0...island/5138502
Mondy
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(Today, 09:58 AM)
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Does anyone else find Andrew Bolt's self obsessed desperation to bring Tea Party politics to Australia the most hilarious thing they've ever seen?
Shaneus
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(Today, 11:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mondy

Does anyone else find Andrew Bolt's self obsessed desperation to bring Tea Party politics to Australia the most hilarious thing they've ever seen?

I dunno... we've seen some hilarious shit in the last few months.
wonzo
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(Today, 11:30 AM)
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I would donate great deals of money to the tea party equivalent made up of Bolt blog commentators just to see them march on the streets. I need this.

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Mondy
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(Today, 11:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by wonzo

I would donate great deals of money to the tea party equivalent made up of Bolt blog commentators just to see them march on the streets. I need this.



Holden has made the decision to pull out of Australia as early as 2016, according to senior Government ministers.

The ABC has been told the announcement was supposed to be made this week but has been put off until early next year.

Holden says its discussions with the Government are continuing, and it does not respond to speculation.

Despite several of his colleagues believing Holden is leaving, Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane says that is not his understanding.

The Federal Opposition has warned Holden would make the decision before Christmas if the Government did not announce an assistance package for the industry before then.

The Government has previously said it would wait for the findings of a Productivity Commission inquiry, due in March.

However, the ABC understands that Holden has made the decision to pull cease its Australian production irrespective regardless of an assistance package.

Research released last month suggested that Holden's closure would cost the South Australian economy $1.24 billion and 13,200 jobs.

Well well well.... Is this not the most predictable outcome ever.

The most blatant case of taking the money and running that I've ever seen. This was ALWAYS going to happen and now both Labor and the Coalition need to answer for wasting our money on these corporate washouts.
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wonzo
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(Today, 12:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mondy

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tlALs3cEVkE/ToE1Y1gEbEI/AAAAAAAAA40/QiYs_eHq104/s1600/21385037_wtf_reaction_gif.gif

markot
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(Today, 12:39 PM)
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The internet has made people stupider.
Box of Bunnies
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(Today, 12:54 PM)
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Nah, it's just given them a place to voice the stupidity they always had.

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