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Nibiru
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(08-20-2013, 12:31 AM)
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I know this is probably futile but does anyone have a key for this game? I would also pay $10 for it if I have to:)

I have never been in a beta for any Blizzard game so I can't hold out hope for that lol.

Pm me:)
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Artemis-Thoth
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(08-20-2013, 03:02 AM)
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My first play of the game was enjoyable, of course I went through several matches before noticing the game was at the wrong resolution and set to Medium...fixed that, not much difference that I could tell o High and right res.

Very fun though, great voice acting and sound, game punishes you on the Illidan fight, but it's passable.
LumpOfCole
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(08-20-2013, 03:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Opiate

While pointing out that only a portion of those 7.7m are actually paying 15/month, I definitely agree it's the least of their weaknesses and the last unqualified success for Blizzard. But most of those intelligent choices were made nearly a decade ago, not within the last few years. My hypothesis is that Blizzard is still making solid core mechanics but not adapting well to the changes in distribution models (freemium, f2p, esports, etc) that have evolved over the last 3-4 years.

In other words, Blizzard is the Ottoman Empire of gaming.
rinker
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(08-20-2013, 03:22 AM)
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I'd be willing to buy a beta key if there are any out there.
MalpercioGoC
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(08-20-2013, 03:27 AM)
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I too would be interested in taking or purchasing a beta key off of someone. Just shoot me a PM and lemme know.
neoism
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(08-20-2013, 04:09 AM)
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So I just signed up for the beta is it a long wait for a key or do you have to pay for it lololol
nm its for open beta and its blizz so I guess it will be awhile :P
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TommyT
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(08-20-2013, 05:14 AM)
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At this point should we just start a 'begging' thread with a list of those who've already mentioned they want one and if they're willing to buy it or not?
Raxus
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(08-20-2013, 05:16 AM)
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Was watching giantbomb today and they got into the hearthstone beta while playing PvZ2.
K.Sabot
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(08-20-2013, 07:12 AM)
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Been watching this game a lot, and it seems terribly balanced in favor of people who use real money.

Trash game (looks fun though), won't support.
maniac-kun
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(08-20-2013, 07:27 AM)
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Can you unlock these new cards without paying for them?
$h@d0w
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(08-20-2013, 07:28 AM)
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Ryan Scott bigging up this game on twitter. It seems bliz are onto something.
DrBo42
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(08-20-2013, 07:28 AM)
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I'd be interested in taking a beta key off someone as well for a fair price. PM. Sorry for interrupting, looks good.
darkressurection
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(08-20-2013, 07:34 AM)
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Played a ton today, probably 5-6 hours straight. Played some unranked games, unlocked all the heroes, then headed straight into the Arena. Did better than I thought I would, I played 3 drafts and got 1 Bronze, 1 Silver, and 1 Platinum chest. I wish I had a better idea about what the prize breakdown is, because I scored like 100 gold out of my Silver chest which was awesome but out of my Plat chest all I got of note was a Legendary (I think, I still haven't looked into what the rarity breakdowns in this game are) for a hero that I don't really plan on using. REALLY wish you could sell cards for gold.

Overall though I am having a ton of fun with the game, I'm not sure how higher level play is looking at this point since all I did was unranked and Arena so it will be interesting to see what needs balance going further.
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Yoshichan
I've played over 500 hours of DMC2 and consider the game good.
(08-20-2013, 08:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Opiate

Guys, just to make it clear, I'm not poor. In fact, I'm rather wealthy for a young single guy; without getting in to many specifics, I have hundreds of thousands of dollars in investments and zero debt (Well, 300 on my credit card for the month).

I'm not unable to afford it, I'm just very stingy with my money, and my friend isn't upset if I'm unwilling to spend 15 (20? 25? 30? 100?) just to have access to a free to play game a month early (or is it not coming out for longer than that? I guess I don't know).

So by all means, beat the crap out of me in bid wars. I'm happy to lose and you should not feel bad for a guy who can certainly afford to buy in but chooses not to.

Aight man, good to hear :)!
Yoshichan
I've played over 500 hours of DMC2 and consider the game good.
(08-20-2013, 08:26 AM)
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Alright so with my current Internet connection, I keep getting disconnected every 15 minutes or so... will this in any way ruin my Hearthstone experience if I just want to play the single-player part?
Narag
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(08-20-2013, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Yoshichan

Alright so with my current Internet connection, I keep getting disconnected every 15 minutes or so... will this in any way ruin my Hearthstone experience if I just want to play the single-player part?

Yes. If you're disconnected from b.net during AI matches, match will end iirc.
Yoshichan
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(08-20-2013, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Narag

Yes. If you're disconnected from b.net during AI matches, match will end iirc.

:( Fuck me. Hype reduced...
BeBen
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(08-20-2013, 01:42 PM)
Looks like i got invited yesterday, considering selling the key

Seems like people are willing to pay 150-250 for one, would be stupid not to considering the game will come out someday

EDIT : Well that didn't take long, sold it for 200$, shame that people are willing to pay so much cause i actually wanted to try it but i value 200$ more lol
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eznark
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(08-20-2013, 01:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kosma

Uhm to the people saying its pay to win, did you ever play Magic?

No because its pay to win.
tomasdk
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(08-20-2013, 03:52 PM)

Originally Posted by eznark

No because its pay to win.

Every card game is pay to win, impossible not to be.
eznark
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(08-20-2013, 03:54 PM)
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Yeah, that's my impression as well but I still give them a shot.
MalpercioGoC
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(08-20-2013, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by BeBen

Looks like i got invited yesterday, considering selling the key

Seems like people are willing to pay 150-250 for one, would be stupid not to considering the game will come out someday

EDIT : Well that didn't take long, sold it for 200$, shame that people are willing to pay so much cause i actually wanted to try it but i value 200$ more lol

Wow, $200?! I'm not sure who would pay that much for an invite to a beta that eventually will be open to all... Not to mention it's a free-to-play game in the first place.

I watched a few videos of the game in action. Looks fun, looking forward to getting my hands on it and giving it a try.
TommyT
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(08-20-2013, 04:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by tomasdk

Every card game is pay to win, impossible not to be.

It's easily possibly to have a F2P card game.

edit: Though, now we're crossing between pay to pay/pay to win, and free to play/play to win. Which I suppose needs to be clarified with the Magic discussion. It's pay to play (the physical game at least, I'm not familiar with the digital version).
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BeBen
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(08-20-2013, 04:37 PM)

Originally Posted by MalpercioGoC

Wow, $200?! I'm not sure who would pay that much for an invite to a beta that eventually will be open to all... Not to mention it's a free-to-play game in the first place.

I watched a few videos of the game in action. Looks fun, looking forward to getting my hands on it and giving it a try.

Yea, you find people like that often on the internet, still i agree 200$ is insane considering you also kinda have to spend money on packs . back in November 2011 i sold 4 Dota 2 invites for 50$ each, now i made as much with 1 key lol

Especially considering the invites are sent as codes and not directly applied to an account like Diablo 3 beta was, the market will get flooded as they give out more and i'll be able to snag one for dirt cheap and enter the same beta, i really don't mind the wait
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V_Arnold
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(08-20-2013, 04:43 PM)
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I always wondered what people would do when they look at the prices of top competitive Magic cards (beside childishly screaming PAAAAY TO WIN), when they already freaked out about mundane stuff like D3's rmah.

And Hearthstone is a TCG, so.... yep. Reality hitting, 3,2,1... It is still not "pay to win", it is called investing in a deck if you feel like it, and playing with it. Just because it has an entry price if you want to enter the competitive game fast, you do not pay to win, you obtain value that you can retrade at will, if you feel like it.

Originally Posted by TommyT

It's easily possibly to have a F2P card game.

Yeah, and then the rare cards will have monetary values attached to them by players, and then they will trade hands, often for real money. Then people will freak out because that sounds like the Devil, aka. P2W.
BeBen
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(08-20-2013, 04:51 PM)

Originally Posted by V_Arnold

I always wondered what people would do when they look at the prices of top competitive Magic cards (beside childishly screaming PAAAAY TO WIN), when they already freaked out about mundane stuff like D3's rmah.

And Hearthstone is a TCG, so.... yep. Reality hitting, 3,2,1... It is still not "pay to win", it is called investing in a deck if you feel like it, and playing with it. Just because it has an entry price if you want to enter the competitive game fast, you do not pay to win, you obtain value that you can retrade at will, if you feel like it.



Yeah, and then the rare cards will have monetary values attached to them by players, and then they will trade hands, often for real money. Then people will freak out because that sounds like the Devil, aka. P2W.

No trading at all in Hearthstone, can only have a max of 2 of the same cards, the rest you disenchant and craft cards of your choosing, so it's really not P2W
Ryuukan
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(08-20-2013, 04:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by BeBen

No trading at all in Hearthstone, can only have a max of 2 of the same cards, the rest you disenchant and craft cards of your choosing, so it's really not P2W

Wait, no trading?
Lactose_Intolerant
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(08-20-2013, 04:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ryuukan

Wait, no trading?

would be too easy to make the deck that you wanted. There aren't a lot of cards.
hobart
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(08-20-2013, 04:59 PM)
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An easy way to justify spending money is to compare this to the physical card games. How much is each pack?

Seems like a pretty good deal to me with an eager base of players to play with almost instantaneously.
Nibiru
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(08-20-2013, 05:00 PM)
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Come on guys you have to win an obscene about of games to get enough gold to compete in arena OR you can pay 1.99 and play right away. If you dump a ton of cash into decks you get better cards and when two opponents of similar skill play each other, it is the dude with the op deck that wins.

It is p2w no question about it BUT in this case for me I don't mind it's still fun. People that hate it because it's p2w are silly that said people that say it isn't p2w are just as silly.
V_Arnold
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(08-20-2013, 05:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by BeBen

No trading at all in Hearthstone, can only have a max of 2 of the same cards, the rest you disenchant and craft cards of your choosing, so it's really not P2W

No trading? Hm. That skews my view of it, because if a card no longer holds value TO YOU, then you essentially threw away time/energy/money while creating that deck, as opposed to Magic where aside from market value fluctuations and bans on cards, you can trade a high value card for another of similar value.
Ryuukan
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(08-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
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Lack of trading and only 2 max of a card, this feels like a GREE smartphone card game. Hype eviscerated.
Axispowers
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(08-20-2013, 05:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by V_Arnold

No trading? Hm. That skews my view of it, because if a card no longer holds value TO YOU, then you essentially threw away time/energy/money while creating that deck, as opposed to Magic where aside from market value fluctuations and bans on cards, you can trade a high value card for another of similar value.

It's a beta I'm sure once there are more cards and it fully releases they will make a real auction money house. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!
V_Arnold
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(08-20-2013, 05:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Axispowers

It's a beta I'm sure once there are more cards and it fully releases they will make a real auction money house. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!

If they want to be a serious TCG, an RMAH is absolutely great. But they cant take anything high on cuts like with D3. Otherwise no one will use their service, especially with needing multiple cards from a deck, etc.
Nerokis
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(08-20-2013, 05:09 PM)
I played a couple hours yesterday, and I'm having a lot of fun. It's definitely very easy to get into. Before the first tutorial mission was even over, I felt I knew everything I needed to know. So Hearthstone certainly has the "easy to play" part down, but I'm wondering if it'll have the depth to achieve the "hard to master" part of the equation.

Either way, so far this has been a very fun, polished introduction to the genre for me, and I'm enjoying the Warcraft universe stuff more than I expected to. I guess I missed it.
Ryuukan
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(08-20-2013, 05:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Axispowers

It's a beta I'm sure once there are more cards and it fully releases they will make a real auction money house. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!

What does that have to do with wanting to give someone a card in exchange for another one.
Willectro
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(08-20-2013, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by V_Arnold

If they want to be a serious TCG, an RMAH is absolutely great. But they cant take anything high on cuts like with D3. Otherwise no one will use their service, especially with needing multiple cards from a deck, etc.

It's not a TCG, it's a CCG (collectible card game).
Nibiru
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(08-20-2013, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by V_Arnold

No trading? Hm. That skews my view of it, because if a card no longer holds value TO YOU, then you essentially threw away time/energy/money while creating that deck, as opposed to Magic where aside from market value fluctuations and bans on cards, you can trade a high value card for another of similar value.

Blizzard wants you to dump cash into decks and play the lottery in hopes of getting the card you want. If they allow trading people don't have to play the lottery they just buy decks and trade cards they don't want to those that do. Blizzard makes far less dough.
erpg
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(08-20-2013, 05:15 PM)
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Do they have any plans for a card auction house, at least? I liked that about BattleForge.
TommyT
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(08-20-2013, 05:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by V_Arnold

Yeah, and then the rare cards will have monetary values attached to them by players, and then they will trade hands, often for real money. Then people will freak out because that sounds like the Devil, aka. P2W.

That's not a P2W scenario though. You're not paying into the game to circumvent any mechanic that prevents an equal level of play.

Here, you're doing exactly that. I haven't, nor will I, run the numbers; but in theory someone can pay to get every card on their first day. This puts them at an advantage.

Another thing that I don't know if people have mentioned is that you can disenchant cards (or maybe that's done for you automatically with a set limit) and make ones you don't have. I have seen people 'buy' specific cards with whatever amount of Arcane Dust they've accumulated from disenchanting. That's another advantage - to get a card you want/need.

More/Specific info here on DE'ing cards.

Common (White) Cards – Disenchant for 5 Arcane Dust / Craft a Common card for 40 Arcane Dust
Rare (Blue) Cards – Disenchant for 20 Arcane Dust / Craft a Rare card for 100 Arcane Dust
Epic (Purple) Cards – Disenchant for 100 Arcane Dust / Craft an Epic card for 400 Arcane Dust
Legendary (Orange) Cards – Disenchant for 400 Arcane Dust / Craft a Legendary card for 1600 Arcane Dust

That said, personally I don't mind any of that and look forward to enjoying the game.
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Belgorim
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(08-20-2013, 05:36 PM)
This definitely looks like fun, looking forward to beta and/or release.
GDJustin
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(08-20-2013, 05:45 PM)
Not sure why people are hating on the 2 max per card. This is a very player-FRIENDLY design choice - not vice-versa.

You can have a max of 2 copies of any one card in your deck, and you can have the same card from your library in multiple decks (so if you have 2x murlocs in 4 decks, you don't need 8 copies of it).

So, you'll never need more than 2 copies of a card... for anything. Letting you disenchant these cards to create the raw materials needed to craft cards you don't own makes a lot of sense.

Anyway, I'm LOVING the game. Bought $10 worth of booster packs after just a few matches - it's that fun. The only element I dislike is that the Arena entrance fees seem way too high. Hopefully they get tweaked downward to be less "high stakes." Or Blizz introduces a low/med/high entry fee rooms.
theMrCravens
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(08-20-2013, 05:49 PM)
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Can you actually get all the cards with gold, or are there unique cards only from purchased $ packs ?
TommyT
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(08-20-2013, 05:49 PM)
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I'm curious if they're refunding Arena fees after the beta as well like packs since there is a wipe.
Ikuu
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(08-20-2013, 05:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by theMrCravens

Can you actually get all the cards with gold, or are there unique cards only from purchased $ packs ?

Pretty sure the booster packs are the same if you spend gold or real money.

Originally Posted by Ryuukan

Lack of trading and only 2 max of a card, this feels like a GREE smartphone card game. Hype eviscerated.

It's definitely aimed at people who've not played a card game before, seems to be very basic from the streams.
Brick
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(08-20-2013, 05:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by TommyT

I'm curious if they're refunding Arena fees after the beta as well like packs since there is a wipe.

It sounds like after the wipe, they will credit your account everything that you bought in the beta. So, while you won't be able to keep the exact cards you had pre-wipe, if you bought 10 booster packs, you'll get 10 new booster packs. I assume they will credit you arena entry fees as well.
GDJustin
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(08-20-2013, 06:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Brick

It sounds like after the wipe, they will credit your account everything that you bought in the beta. So, while you won't be able to keep the exact cards you had pre-wipe, if you bought 10 booster packs, you'll get 10 new booster packs. I assume they will credit you arena entry fees as well.

The question I have is how specifically that credit will work. We're going to get a gold credit equal to the amount of things we purchased.

...But what about packs we earned/opened through means other than purchasing? I've been cleaning up at the Arena, earning lots of bonus packs. Curious about whether I'll get those back, or just the 7 packs I actually purchased for $10.
Ryuukan
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(08-20-2013, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by GDJustin

The question I have is how specifically that credit will work. We're going to get a gold credit equal to the amount of things we purchased.

...But what about packs we earned/opened through means other than purchasing? I've been cleaning up at the Arena, earning lots of bonus packs. Curious about whether I'll get those back, or just the 7 packs I actually purchased for $10.

$$$ first, ask questions later, standard expectations of gacha gaming
hobart
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(08-20-2013, 06:11 PM)
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How much to purchase the booster?
GDJustin
stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
(08-20-2013, 06:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Ryuukan

$$$ first, ask questions later, standard expectations of gacha gaming

This isn't gacha gaming, though. There isn't any card evolving/combining/fusing, etc. Just a mechanism to make use of duplicates you end up with.

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