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Ryuukan
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(08-20-2013, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by GDJustin

This isn't gacha gaming, though. There isn't any card evolving/combining/fusing, etc. Just a mechanism to make use of duplicates you end up with.

right, you just buy lots of packs to combine/fuse the cards you want

its a mechanism to ensure everyone buys a sufficient amount of turns on the gacha machine
Last edited by Ryuukan; 08-20-2013 at 06:49 PM.
RPGCrazied
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(08-20-2013, 06:48 PM)
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Seems like everyone will get the mount. All you need to do is play 3 games in play mode. Unless that gets changed. People will download the game just for the mount, lol. Still a fun/addictive game. I won't spend $$$$ on it though.
darkressurection
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(08-20-2013, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ryuukan

right, you just buy lots of packs to combine/fuse the cards you want

Except you don't, you buy packs and get cards. The only time those cards can be put to use is if they are duplicates of cards you already have a full playset (which I think is 2 of them) of which then lets you turn them into Dust which then lets you make specific cards you need for your deck. You can also win Dust when you unlock an Arena chest, which also normally includes a booster in it.
Ryuukan
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(08-20-2013, 06:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by darkressurection

Except you don't, you buy packs and get cards. The only time those cards can be put to use is if they are duplicates of cards you already have a full playset (which I think is 2 of them) of which then lets you turn them into Dust which then lets you make specific cards you need for your deck. You can also win Dust when you unlock an Arena chest, which also normally includes a booster in it.

Why are you completely ignoring the concept of rarity
Opiate
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(08-20-2013, 10:57 PM)
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I think we can settle somewhere in the middle of "this is a perfect business model" and "this is worth than GREE."

It's an imperfectly applied freemium scheme. Not the worst, but not the best. We can quibble over precisely what and why that is.
Jedi2016
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(08-21-2013, 04:22 AM)
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I keep getting into argument over at MMOC (yeah, yeah, I know...) about the whole "pay to win" thing.

It's my belief that the matchmaking system will prevent F2P players using only starter decks or basic cards from regularly going up against P2W players that have bought a hundred packs and have a deck full of Epics and Legendaries.

Think about it.. if the deck really makes a person "better" (which, based on what I've seen, it doesn't), then obviously that person is very quickly going to be placed in a different bracket than you, and you'll end up playing against people more or less at the same level you are. Whoda thunk it? MATCHMAKING.

I keep seeing people saying that if you don't pay for card packs, that you'll end up "behind the curve" and you'll be playing against people that will stomp you up and down, you'll lose exactly 100% of the time, therefore you won't have fun, therefore the game suxx, etc.

That said, I've seen players with really good cards get stomped, and I've seen players using only starter cards (custom decks, but still built with only basic starter cards, and a few packs won in-game, which everyone gets early on), but playing those cards well, and they stomp on the other person with "better" cards. Just in the videos I've watched, I've seen people throw down epic cards and trash talk about how much they're going to wreck the next turn, and then all those fancy cards are utterly destroyed before they ever get a chance to play them, because the other player had a couple buffs and board wipes tucked away for moments just like that.

I think better cards will let you have more fun, by doing fun things, but it's still going to come down to how you play them, not just their presence in your deck.

But, at the end of the day... they've got a Leeroy Jenkins card. And it plays pretty much like you'd expect: Leeroy is 6/2 with Charge, and summons two 1/1 whelps... for your opponent. That makes it okay in my book.
BeBen
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(08-21-2013, 07:01 AM)

Originally Posted by hobart

How much to purchase the booster?

1,5$ per pack with the biggest bundle giving 40 packs for 49,99

EDIT : As for getting cards without paying i think you need a ridiculous amount of wins for 1 pack, something like 1 gold per win and 100 gold buys 1 pack of 5 cards lol
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Lolligag
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(08-21-2013, 08:31 AM)
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There's daily quests to earn coins and achievements. It's not that difficult.

Example of a daily quest is winning 2 games a certain class and you get 40 coins.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/110-qu...kly-news-recap
Artemis-Thoth
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(08-21-2013, 05:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by BeBen

1,5$ per pack with the biggest bundle giving 40 packs for 49,99

EDIT : As for getting cards without paying i think you need a ridiculous amount of wins for 1 pack, something like 1 gold per win and 100 gold buys 1 pack of 5 cards lol

I've only played like 10-15 games, mostly on Practice to unlock classes and already earned over 100 gold. You get bonus coins for completing quests.
GDJustin
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(08-22-2013, 02:37 AM)
Created a Priest deck that seems pretty diabolical, although I admit that further testing is needed.

It's nothing but Taunt creatures with a little creature buffing/healing & direct damage tossed in.

At best, opponents can't get through all the taunters to even damage. At worst, even if I play poorly the games at least go long, giving me a chance to stabilize and start using excess mana to heal up.

There's plenty it is susceptible to, notably direct damage, but it seems pretty strong so far.
Jedi2016
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(08-22-2013, 03:54 AM)
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Is there any benefit to the foil cards other than looks and cool factor?
DrBo42
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(08-22-2013, 04:14 AM)
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Anyone know how often they're sending out keys? I never get into these. Le sigh.
Narag
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(08-22-2013, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jedi2016

Is there any benefit to the foil cards other than looks and cool factor?

Just more dust if you disenchant them, I think.
Lolligag
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(08-22-2013, 01:58 PM)
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I'm pretty sure it bypasses the 2x limit for cards, you can have 2x normal ones and then 2x golden foiled ones.
Ryuukan
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(08-22-2013, 02:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lolligag

I'm pretty sure it bypasses the 2x limit for cards, you can have 2x normal ones and then 2x golden foiled ones.

Can you put all 4 in one deck?
KniveSmith
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(08-22-2013, 02:08 PM)
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Been watching games on twitch for the last several days and well... this game is good. Really good. I feel like it'd be a better fit for me than Hex at this point.
SteveWD40
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(08-22-2013, 02:12 PM)
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What strikes me is the feel of the game, it's Blizzard through and through, everything looks and feels solid and satisfying.
iirate
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(08-22-2013, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lolligag

I'm pretty sure it bypasses the 2x limit for cards, you can have 2x normal ones and then 2x golden foiled ones.

No, they're purely cosmetic changes. It's still the same card and you can only have 2 of it.
mclem
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(08-22-2013, 02:38 PM)

Originally Posted by GDJustin

The question I have is how specifically that credit will work. We're going to get a gold credit equal to the amount of things we purchased.

...But what about packs we earned/opened through means other than purchasing? I've been cleaning up at the Arena, earning lots of bonus packs. Curious about whether I'll get those back, or just the 7 packs I actually purchased for $10.

During the course of the Hearthstone closed beta, card collections and game progress will be reset, and any cards participants acquired will be removed. Following the wipe, players who made a purchase from the in-game store will receive a gold credit equivalent to their previous card pack and/or Arena purchases. Also, as a thank you for testing out the in-game store during Hearthstone’s beta phase, everyone who purchased a card pack in the beta test will receive a Golden Legendary card.

I'm taking that to mean you'll only get back the gold value of what you bought at the store; so card packs if you bought them, Arena tickets if you bought them, and I assume gold purchases count for nothing.

I could see merit in purchasing three card packs (for 100 gold apiece), practicing the game during the beta, then when the real game starts taking that 300 gold and instead spending it on two Arena runs with the added experience you now have. May well work out more lucrative.
Johnlenham
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(08-22-2013, 02:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by SteveWD40

What strikes me is the feel of the game, it's Blizzard through and through, everything looks and feels solid and satisfying.

Yeah there is a certain something about it that really intrests me. I dont really care for card games but this.. I dunno is just grabs me.
Man Id love a beta but im in the Eu. Hopefully Eu gets ago soon.

Complaing about the amount of games needed is odd to me when you have other genres like mobas where you can pour tonnes of hours and get very little out of it (like LoL)
Linkyn
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(08-22-2013, 03:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jedi2016

But, at the end of the day... they've got a Leeroy Jenkins card. And it plays pretty much like you'd expect: Leeroy is 6/2 with Charge, and summons two 1/1 whelps... for your opponent. That makes it okay in my book.

That is absolutely hilarious.
BurningNad
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(08-22-2013, 03:39 PM)
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I need into this beta so badly. It looks so fun.
Wunder
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(08-22-2013, 03:45 PM)
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One of my friends happened to get into the beta a couple of days ago but since he isn't all that interested in CCGs/Hearthstone in general he decided to hand it over to me! I decided to try out a Warrior deck since that's probably the least popular one I've seen (I think I've only seen Trump play it once in Arena). Pretty fun game so far and I can definitely see hundreds of ways to expand the game, I just hope they are active and keep adding to it at a steady pace.
Narag
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(08-22-2013, 04:37 PM)
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Really liking the flexibility of a priest deck. That is when I don't end up with a handful of buff cards with no minions to buff!

Originally Posted by Wunder

One of my friends happened to get into the beta a couple of days ago but since he isn't all that interested in CCGs/Hearthstone in general he decided to hand it over to me! I decided to try out a Warrior deck since that's probably the least popular one I've seen (I think I've only seen Trump play it once in Arena). Pretty fun game so far and I can definitely see hundreds of ways to expand the game, I just hope they are active and keep adding to it at a steady pace.

I've been messing with warrior myself too. I like the weapon oriented play. Dat gorehowl
hobart
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(08-22-2013, 04:50 PM)
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Been watching streams pretty consistently over the last couple days now. There are so many things I like about this game. But I think, in general, its the simplicity of it that makes it shine.

Really looking forward to playing it eventually.
KKRT00
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(08-22-2013, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by hobart

But I think, in general, its the simplicity of it that makes it shine.

Thats one bit i dislike, but i really like pacing, its very fast.
Fragamemnon
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(08-22-2013, 06:32 PM)
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The main source of simplicity is the lack of any kind of ability/responses stack or chain that most TCG's have. The closest you get is the secret cards, which are all mostly completely played around since you can see how much the player paid to play them and they are class specific.

I'm a very advanced TCG player and I don't think the game is simple-yes, simple in ruleset, but like WOWTCG the ability for your creatures to attack enemy creatures directly and in an ordering that can be mixed with spells and summons inbetween, there's a lot of emphasis on finding the best plays and executing the cards for it in the right order.

I beat a Mage last night in Arena after he dropped a 8/8 on turn 4 on the play and board wiped me twice with flamestrike. This is as a druid without any kind of reasonable arbitrary removal in my deck. Good solid play beats sheer card quality in this game.
Drake
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(08-22-2013, 06:33 PM)
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I'm actually surprised how good this game looks. I'll definitely be checking it out when it releases.
theMrCravens
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(08-22-2013, 08:50 PM)
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How can I check what's inside a "basic deck" for each class ?

I've been randomly dumping cards into a custom deck, but then noticed I can play with the initial "basic deck".
Narag
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(08-22-2013, 09:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by theMrCravens

How can I check what's inside a "basic deck" for each class ?

I've been randomly dumping cards into a custom deck, but then noticed I can play with the initial "basic deck".

I think you can sort by basic and expert in your collection page.
questionmark
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(08-22-2013, 09:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dawg

For my fellow Europeans, I received a press invite to the US beta since that's the only way for EU press to try the game.

The mail also states that the US account is only a temporary account and EU beta keys will get sent out the next few weeks.

Just sharing this so EU peeps know it won't be this week or so.

You are breaking my heart.

Originally Posted by Ikuu

I'm going to guess something like http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/203-illidan-stormrage is just better than anything you'll find for free.

You can find it for free.

Originally Posted by theMrCravens

Can you actually get all the cards with gold, or are there unique cards only from purchased $ packs ?

The golden version of the Gelbin Mekkatorque card is only given out to people that make a purchase with real money during the beta, I believe.
iirate
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(08-22-2013, 11:06 PM)
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I'm so addicted to arena already! I also bought 40 pack bundle and it didn't take me much after that to build a competitive starting deck (Hunter trap control).

Originally Posted by questionmark

The golden version of the Gelbin Mekkatorque card is only given out to people that make a purchase with real money during the beta, I believe.

This is true, but the non-golden version is readily available otherwise. You might miss out on special cards ignoring the cash shop, but I doubt it will ever be something you can't pull from a pack in a less shiny packaging.
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Wunder
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(08-23-2013, 04:46 AM)
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Man I hate mages
Cels
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(08-23-2013, 05:20 AM)
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game is fun. really hate the 9-win cap on arena, was looking forward to seeing how far i could go before losing 3
erpg
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(08-23-2013, 05:27 AM)
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Flavour text is pretty bland stuff (though I did find a few I liked - like Stormpike Commando).
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Paches
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(08-23-2013, 06:57 AM)
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I am willing to buy someones beta key! PM me please!
Narag
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(08-23-2013, 08:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by erpg

Flavour text is pretty bland stuff (though I did find a few I liked - like Stormpike Commando).

Mind Control is a personal favorite.
DrBo42
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(08-23-2013, 01:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Paches-EJ-

I am willing to buy someones beta key! PM me please!

I've made so many attempts to get a key, entered like 20 giveaways, facebook, buy offers, still nothing. I wish you better luck my friend. Pretty sad when I refresh my inbox and there's no Blizz email. :(
KKRT00
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(08-23-2013, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrBo42

I've made so many attempts to get a key, entered like 20 giveaways, facebook, buy offers, still nothing. I wish you better luck my friend. Pretty sad when I refresh my inbox and there's no Blizz email. :(

There is so much hype currently for this game. Blizzard is so stupid to not monenitize on it with payed in access to beta, people would be willing to pay even 40$ for it if it included also for example 15 booster packs.
TommyT
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(08-23-2013, 04:15 PM)
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D2JSP seems a place to get a guaranteed key if you have the forum gold.
Miragith
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(08-23-2013, 10:55 PM)
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Guess I'll be waiting like normal folk to play when it officially opens. Watching Krip's stream makes me want to play so bad though.
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(08-23-2013, 11:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Miragith

Guess I'll be waiting like normal folk to play when it officially opens. Watching Krip's stream makes me want to play so bad though.

Yeah I want to try and get a betakey for my BF as he's been dying to play this but seems super tough to get >.<
Paches
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(08-23-2013, 11:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrBo42

I've made so many attempts to get a key, entered like 20 giveaways, facebook, buy offers, still nothing. I wish you better luck my friend. Pretty sad when I refresh my inbox and there's no Blizz email. :(

Same here. I won't give up on my quest though, dammit!
DrBo42
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(08-24-2013, 01:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Miragith

Guess I'll be waiting like normal folk to play when it officially opens. Watching Krip's stream makes me want to play so bad though.

Especially when he makes absolutely idiotic decisions.
Gez
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(08-24-2013, 04:35 AM)
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Im so glad Blizzard is making this game. The TCG/CCG genre needed a major shakeup and those pussy GREE/Mobage games where getting too much influence.

Kripp is getting 10K viewers concurrently daily.
ThroneZwei
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(08-24-2013, 04:37 AM)
This game looks so much fun and lively. Sure, it may not be 'suprah-deep' like other games, but it looks...fun ya know?

Hoping for a key in my email someday. I entered the Beta thing on my Blizz profile, wonder if that's any good.
Gez
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(08-24-2013, 04:56 AM)
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Totalbiscuit is salty as fuck. I can't believe what i'm reading, he is raging at Kripp.
Wunder
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(08-24-2013, 05:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gez

Totalbiscuit is salty as fuck. I can't believe what i'm reading, he is raging at Kripp.

where? nvm found it

Getting 1 gold a win makes it really hard to get back to arena if you bomb out :[
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Gez
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(08-24-2013, 05:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wunder

where?

Read his twitter. Apparently TB was streamcheating since Kripp didn't have a delay and he got schooled by Kripp now he is salty then the Kripp viewers where spamming him and he is getting even more salty.
Rokam
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(08-24-2013, 11:02 AM)
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New round of keys going out on Tuesday, believe this is US only still, sorry EU. Twitter

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