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Lasdrub
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(08-26-2013, 03:01 AM)
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It kinda reminds me of tower defense games or those "mmos" on iOS. Its better than the mmos because you don't have to wait an arbitrary length of time to do stuff.
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koolaroo
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(08-26-2013, 03:09 AM)
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yay the new version works in another tab. I'm going to start from the beginning again.
NZNova
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(08-26-2013, 03:17 AM)
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I got curious about it and started digging in the javascript and spoiled it for myself, haha. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.
Dreavus
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(08-26-2013, 03:34 AM)
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These games are kind of weird. Starts out with maddened clicking then eventually your maddened clicking does nothing and your reduced to trying to figure out which structure is going to boost development the fastest. Doesn't mean I won't play for a bit haha.
VGChampion
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(08-26-2013, 03:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dreavus

These games are kind of weird. Starts out with maddened clicking then eventually your maddened clicking does nothing and your reduced to trying to figure out which structure is going to boost development the fastest. Doesn't mean I won't play for a bit haha.

And then it all crashes and burns. After buying two of the time machine's there was nothing left.
Doctor_Thomas
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(08-26-2013, 03:38 AM)
Why can I not stop?!
NervousXtian
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(08-26-2013, 03:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by VGChampion

And then it all crashes and burns. After buying two of the time machine's there was nothing left.

2? I got 34... but still grinding out the 160 clickers!!!

I'll be done by midnight.. I think?
NZNova
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(08-26-2013, 03:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by NervousXtian

2? I got 34... but still grinding out the 160 clickers!!!

I'll be done by midnight.. I think?

Just FYI as an idea of where you are going, clicker 161 costs 77 billion cookies.
NervousXtian
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(08-26-2013, 03:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by NZNova

Just FYI as an idea of where you are going, clicker 161 costs 77 billion cookies.

That's about 39mins at 33m/sec.

I'm at 156 now, 157 will cost me 44b... about 20 mins. Somewhere around 10-10:30pm should have it.

This game totally proves we love counters counting up to goals.

I am hollow.
NZNova
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(08-26-2013, 03:57 AM)
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If it makes you feel any better, by the time you get up to 200 time machines it has to use scientific notation.
tensuke
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(08-26-2013, 03:59 AM)
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77 billion? T_T I'm only going at 2.6m/s, on cursor 144. Left it running since yesterday and bought the last 99,999,999,999 cookie and a few cursors. This'll take quite a while...

Loving the update though, it looks and plays much better than before. Excited for chievos and dungeons!
Wibblewozzer
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(08-26-2013, 04:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by tensuke

77 billion? T_T I'm only going at 2.6m/s, on cursor 144. Left it running since yesterday and bought the last 99,999,999,999 cookie and a few cursors. This'll take quite a while...

Loving the update though, it looks and plays much better than before. Excited for chievos and dungeons!

Make sure you're playing on Ver. 1.02 or later (I've been on 1.021). Just save and refresh the window. It changes the numbers around quite a bit. Before the refresh I was around 2.78m/s and then it jumped to around ten times that upon refreshing. It'll speed things up considerably.
NZNova
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(08-26-2013, 04:46 AM)
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I got curious... game scales pretty well...

Jackson
(08-26-2013, 06:48 AM)
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This game is awesome.
JBourne
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(08-26-2013, 06:51 AM)
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I accidentally refreshed while having about 820k cps. Now I have 12 million cps.

I am a cookie god.
NervousXtian
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(08-26-2013, 07:07 AM)
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Got that last upgrade about an hour ago.. btw it popped at 160.. you didn't need to buy 161.

no got nothing to do.. lame.
UraMallas
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(08-26-2013, 07:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Daedalos42

Get the Elder Pledge. It buffs Cursors and Grandmas.

This paragraph is fucking with my mind.
sn00zer
(08-26-2013, 07:23 AM)
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can i export an old save and load up the new game?
sn00zer
(08-26-2013, 07:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by NZNova

I got curious... game scales pretty well...

how do i play this version? the old one keeps loading up
NZNova
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(08-26-2013, 07:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by sn00zer

how do i play this version? the old one keeps loading up

Try clearing your browser cache.
Wibblewozzer
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(08-26-2013, 07:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by sn00zer

can i export an old save and load up the new game?

Yes. Exporting just has you copy and paste a text string so copy it from the old version then go to the new version and "load" it and paste the code in. That's what I did to start with my existing cookie operation.
PogiJones
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(08-26-2013, 07:37 AM)
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What does the 160th cursor upgrade do? Does it make cursors a force to be reckoned with again, or is it just a drop in the bucket?
Wibblewozzer
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(08-26-2013, 07:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by PogiJones

What does the 160th cursor upgrade do? Does it make cursors a force to be reckoned with again, or is it just a drop in the bucket?

It costs 500,000,000 and does +10 for each non-cursor purchased for each click of the mouse or cursors. Honestly it's not that big of a deal, especially with how much it's going to cost in cursors to get there. Highlighting shows me that cursors now give me 1.2m CPS and considering I get 27.7m CPS from my 52 time machines that 1.2m from the cursors isn't the largest change.

Just did the math to notice that the highlighted values for CPS don't take into the account the +% bonuses from cookie upgrades. With all upgrades you get 65% more cookies.
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Toppot
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(08-26-2013, 11:40 AM)
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I've been playing this and coming to some horrible conclusions.

All maths considered, with some estimations, If I was to buy my 101st Mine, while having my 160 Cursors, and 65% Cookie bonus, it would take around 9 months to make its cookies back....
Wibblewozzer
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(08-26-2013, 02:57 PM)
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New update rolled out that drops the CPS on time machines so be wary of refreshing right now until you've hit most of your cookie goals. For some reason I had a +10% cookie upgrade listed again for ~100 billion cookies but it's not a new one and buying it puts me back at the max of +65% CPS. But now I'm missing an upgrade as it says I'm 41/42. Not sure if this is the return of the impossible upgrade that's not implemented in the game yet or if it'll become visible at some other trigger. If he really expects us to get 320 cursor purchases he's insane.

Edit: Had 160 Cursors purchased for the upgrade but seems one more was added so the cursor upgrade that was at 160 is now 120 but I had to buy one more (because I was already at 160? Or triggers at 161) for a new upgrade that gives +20 to cursors for each non-cursor item purchased.
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NervousXtian
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(08-26-2013, 03:22 PM)
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Yeah, the cursor upgrades are lame for something that hardly makes a difference in CPS.

Of course they know that, and the completionist in us will get it anyhow, since we can't stare at 40 of 41 or now 40 of 42.
Stet
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(08-27-2013, 12:35 AM)
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Now what?
Reversed
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(08-27-2013, 12:44 AM)
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Right now, I feel like the donkey with a carrot stick. Except it's a cookie.
NZNova
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(08-27-2013, 03:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Stet

Now what?

Keep going?

Wibblewozzer
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(08-27-2013, 03:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by NZNova

Keep going?

Except for your values you'd have had to let it run for weeks to even buy up to where you are. Even for what you have on hand is beyond actually playing and has to be due to editing values.

100,172,627,858,800 / 170,059,924 =

589,043 seconds / 60 =

9817 minutes / 60 =

163 hours

That's nearly seven days just to start from zero at the rate you're at (which should be roughly your fastest speed) to get to where you are now. And obviously you wouldn't start from 0 at that rate of increase because you have to work your way up to that and would have had to buy all those upgrades you have showing.

Not like the game is really much of "playing" but it's not as if you "kept going" either. This was more something I simply thought about mathematically more than anything.

Edit: Of course I could have messed up the math somewhere. Sorry if that's the case.
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NZNova
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(08-27-2013, 04:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wibblewozzer

Except for your values you'd have had to let it run for weeks to even buy up to where you are. Even for what you have on hand is beyond actually playing and has to be due to editing values.

No, I mentioned it (somewhat obliquely) earlier in the thread - I got curious about how the game scales out so started playing with it. I disabled the Spend() function that deducts cookies when you buy, and pumped some cash into the economy to eliminate some of the waiting - this was after I'd hit time machines and had run out of stuff to do, though. I just wanted to see how it handled large numbers :)

EDIT: one thing your math is missing is the fact the cps value has changed around (wildly) with the various updates.
Last edited by NZNova; 08-27-2013 at 04:40 AM.
Wibblewozzer
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(08-27-2013, 04:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by NZNova

No, I mentioned it (somewhat obliquely) earlier in the thread - I got curious about how the game scales out so started playing with it. I disabled the Spend() function that deducts cookies when you buy, and pumped some cash into the economy to eliminate some of the waiting - this was after I'd hit time machines and had run out of stuff to do, though. I just wanted to see how it handled large numbers :)

EDIT: one thing your math is missing is the fact the cps value has changed around (wildly) with the various updates.

Ah, alright. I couldn't remember who did some editing or not and with skimming I found you talking about getting up to 5m CPS so up to that point I didn't notice you talk about editing the values.

It definitely needs fleshed out, which I know is coming, because there's little reason to play other than buying all the upgrades or hitting person CPS goals. And once you have all the upgrades it lacks any goal at all. I let it go for awhile and just kept buying portals and time machines but I've had it closed for the last 24 hours and only check it occasionally for updates. I need more cookies!

Edit: I thought about the changing values with the updates but didn't bother addressing it because the biggest change that would have had any impact of making the time shorter was lessening the value of Time Machines by about 20%. But at the same time a lot of things saw huge increases previously from 1.01 to 1.02 so in the end the jump there more than balanced out the decrease that happened during the last update around 1.021 to 1.024.
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Wolf Akela
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(08-27-2013, 08:33 AM)
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How often do cookie frenzies happen?
Wibblewozzer
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(08-27-2013, 10:41 PM)
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Time to refresh the game. Added achievements and new upgrades. Also, milk. I have no idea what to do with the milk other than buy the upgrades that cause you to get more CPS based off of the milk. So...yeah.

Thanks to Wario64's Twitter for alerting me on the update.
oatmeal
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(08-27-2013, 11:02 PM)
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FUCK
I refreshed to see if I could get the good verison and i lost all progress...and didn't get the cool looking version.

FUCK.
Wibblewozzer
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(08-27-2013, 11:20 PM)
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I'm at 52/54 on upgrades now and 51/72 on achievements. I believe your milk percentage is simply double your total achievements. At just about 108m CPS now with all the new upgrades. Haven't bothered looking up how to get all the achievements and the last two upgrades. I fear they expect us to get 200 cursors and that's insane.
Jackson
(08-27-2013, 11:43 PM)
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Achievements

Sacrifice: Reset your game with 1 million cookies.
Oblivion: Reset your game with 1 billion cookies.
From scratch: Reset your game with 1 trillion cookies.
Cheated cookies taste awful: Cheat in some cookies.
Mathematician: Have 1 time machine, 2 portals, 4 alchemy labs, 8 shipments, and so on (128 max). These have to be exact.
Base Ten: Have 10 time machines, 20 portals, 30 alchemy labs, 40 shipments and so on. These have to be exact.

Welp, not getting these.
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Reversed
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(08-27-2013, 11:58 PM)
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You have to reset to unlock achievements.

Hold me. :(

Edit: does resetting kill your CPS? D:
Gangxxter
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(08-28-2013, 12:09 AM)
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This game really has potential, interesting concept.
tensuke
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(08-28-2013, 12:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by oatmeal

FUCK
I refreshed to see if I could get the good verison and i lost all progress...and didn't get the cool looking version.

FUCK.

If you exported your save in the old version you can import it into the new version until Sept. 1st. It saves info using cookies (lol) so be weary about clearing those as well. If you still get the old version, something's wrong, try using ctrl+f5 to refresh and clear cache (should work in FF and Chrome, at least). Although I think it'd be more fun to start over in the newer version rather than import a save from the old gray one.

Edit: Also, dem achievements. Damn.
Nibel
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(08-28-2013, 12:17 AM)
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I didn't have to reset and still got my achievements

Mauricio_Magus
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(08-28-2013, 12:20 AM)
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Anyone knows which are the 2 missing upgrades?

Retroid
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(08-28-2013, 12:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mauricio_Magus

Anyone knows which are the 2 missing upgrades?

The other two upgrades are obtained when you click 7 and 27 Golden Cookies.
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Wibblewozzer
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(08-28-2013, 01:35 AM)
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There was another update from 1.027 to 1.028. It seems to fix some achievements as I should have earned them last update but hadn't (they're based on clicking the regular cookie). It also fills in all the achievements and grays out the ones you don't have but you're able to see all of them to know what you need to do on some of them (others just have ???). Also I wasn't paying full attention but I went from 110m CPS to 160m CPS and I believe most of that was due to refreshing? My guess is that perhaps the milk wasn't calculating correctly? It's either that or they just bumped up the value of other things behind the scenes.

Edit: And now letting it build back up a trillion cookies so I can reset. Ugh.
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Baconbitz
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(08-28-2013, 04:47 AM)
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FUCK, FUCK, FUCK!!!! I've lost my whole day.
Reversed
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(08-28-2013, 05:14 AM)
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Achievements list.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6359797

I didn't have to reset and still got my achievements

Not all of them.
Jackson
(08-28-2013, 05:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Reversed

Achievements list.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6359797



Not all of them.

http://cookieclicker.wikia.com/wiki/Achievements

That's a better site
Wibblewozzer
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(08-28-2013, 08:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jackson

http://cookieclicker.wikia.com/wiki/Achievements

That's a better site

So after I did the reset after a trillion cookies to get those three achievements I see that he removed those three achievements along with two others. I then read the site wrong and saw that it said you still get credit for having them if earned before they were removed so I figured I might as well refresh for the newest version but while the achievements still show they don't go towards my milk percentage. So that sucks. Also, since I hadn't bothered selling anything completely missed the idea that the mathematical ones don't have to be earned from a fresh run (the other reason I figured I might as well do a reset) since you can just sell your buildings to get the right numbers in place. Oh well!
oatmeal
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(08-28-2013, 08:14 AM)
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Had it running all day, about to get my first time machine...in about 5 minutes.
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(08-28-2013, 08:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by oatmeal

Had it running all day, about to get my first time machine...in about 5 minutes.

Careful, you'll go back in time and lose everything.






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