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(09-06-2013, 03:09 AM)
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The PlayStation 4′s Dualshock 4 Will (Reportedly) Work on Computers
Published on September 4, 2013, by Austin Griffith




According to Redditor dzle, the developers of Galak-Z confirmed last weekend at PAX Prime in Seattle that all PlayStation 4 controllers will work on computers simply by plugging them in via the micro-usb connector without any finagling. It is also reported that the touchpad will also be able to be mapped like the touchpad on your everyday laptop. If this all comes to be true, the PlayStation 4 may just become the next generation controller you have to have for PC gaming.

According to the Redditor, “Galak-Z currently is not stable on the PS4. Thus they had PCs with DS4s [Dualshock 4's] on the show floor running the game. I asked if this implied the PS4 controller works on PC, which he said ‘yes it works as a regular USB controller’.” Also implying that the PlayStation 4′s Dualshock 4 will work as a simple plug-and-play controller, possibly even with bluetooth (if we’re lucky.)

As it stands, most gamers prefer the Xbox 360 controller for the most comfortable computer gaming – we’ll have to see how that opinion fares come November 22nd when both competitors consoles go head to head.

We’ve reached out to Galak-Z and Sony to confirm this and will update should we hear back.

http://levelsave.com/playstation-4s-...ork-computers/

From Reddit:

Not sure if news, but was confirmed to me by a Galak-Z dev on the show floor at PAX. The PS4 controller will work on PC natively via USB. It was not confirmed if it works via bluetooth, and the laptop it was running on had Windows 7. It was also not confirmed that the touchpad worked natively.
If the the touchpad could mapped to mouse movement on PC, this would be the ultimate gaming PC controller.

EDIT: Some clarification on how this was asked; Per this same dev, Galak-Z currently is not stable on the PS4. Thus they had PCs with DS4s on the show floor running the game. I asked if this implied the PS4 controller works on PC, which he said 'yes it works as a regular USB controller'.

EDIT2: As other people have said, Transistor as well was running on PC using wired PS4 controllers.

EDIT3: Halon50 posted further verification and a video here. Looks very similar to the leaked Dev DS4 from before the PS4 reveal.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/commen...r_works_on_pc/

I wonder if the controller will work as an Xinput controller or will it be Directinput only.
Last edited by satam55; 09-06-2013 at 03:54 AM.
qa_engineer
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(09-06-2013, 03:10 AM)
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Uh fuck yes. This is excellent news.
Santiako
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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LiquidMetal14
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(09-06-2013, 03:11 AM)
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Hell yes if true. If so I will be buying one of these for PC instead of a new Xbone pad.

I'm starting to see lots of PC games shown with PS4 pad prompts.
DMPrince
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XIV yes plz.

Red DS4 is mine then.
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Fuck yes. No more Motion Joy nonsense.
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Hope it's true.
sfedai0
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(09-06-2013, 03:11 AM)
Looks like I will be getting a PS4 .....controller.
epmode
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(09-06-2013, 03:12 AM)
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Incredible news. I guess it's XInput then.
dyergram
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(09-06-2013, 03:12 AM)
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Touch pad could be cool for simple mouse navigation as well.
pixlexic
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(09-06-2013, 03:12 AM)
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Will def buy another just for ff14
Stimpack
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(09-06-2013, 03:12 AM)
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Please. Please. Please.
Owensboro
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Oh lord please be true. It would be awesome to have a second option that has a touchpad to deal with random steam Popup problems when launching some games.
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Fantastic news if true.
Killthee
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(09-06-2013, 03:13 AM)
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The touchpad too?!?!

SteveWinwood
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(09-06-2013, 03:13 AM)
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I refuse to believe.

It's literally too good to be true.

They have to fuck it up somehow.
alr1ght
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(09-06-2013, 03:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by epmode

Incredible news. I guess it's XInput then.

you mean Direct Input, not MS's proprietary Xinput.

Originally Posted by SteveWinwood

I refuse to believe.

It's literally too good to be true.

They have to fuck it up somehow.

Most newer games only have an option for Xinput (basically how the PC reads the inputs), so someone would have to create an Xinput emulator (which already exists, but somewhat janky).
This is all assuming it just uses DirectInput (the default, basic input that will work without any extra drivers).
Last edited by alr1ght; 09-06-2013 at 03:16 AM.
stfuppercut
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PC gaming just got a new best controller
Duxxy3
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I would buy a second PS4 controller just for my PC (oh yeah, and a bluetooth receiver)
shira
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I'll take this news sitting down
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Originally Posted by epmode

Incredible news. I guess it's XInput then.

DirectInput, probably, though it shouldn't be too hard for someone to make an XInput wrapper.
BPoole
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That would be excellent for HTPCs. I just wonder if it will work with PC games natively or something sinilar to the motion joy drivers will have to be used.

Either way, awesome news if true.
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(09-06-2013, 03:15 AM)
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This is awesome, but do any plug and play USB controllers work on Steam? Or does it have to be the 360 controller? If it worked on Steam, that would be incredible.
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(09-06-2013, 03:15 AM)
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Oh shit. Looks like I'm buying a extra one. This is awesome if true.
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So maybe that's why the lightbar wasn't turned on.
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Please let this be true.
Please let this be true.
Please let this be true.
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nib95
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Nice. Touchpad mimicking a laptop touchpad sounds awesome too.

LAMBO
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damn, may use as my next XMBC PC remote, if it has bluetooth.
Orayn
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Originally Posted by alr1ght

you mean Direct Input, not MS's proprietary Xinput.

Not totally proprietary, there are Logitech controllers with an XInput mode.
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Originally Posted by Owensboro

Oh lord please be true. It would be awesome to have a second option that has a touchpad to deal with random steam Popup problems when launching some games.

Exactly why I'd want one and for the d-pad.
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Originally Posted by Killthee

The touchpad too?!?!

We are done here, AMAZING!
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Originally Posted by Killthee

The touchpad too?!?!

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qqybj6D.gif[IMG]

That's the big thing for me. Even though right now I'm perfectly happy using the Xbox controller, if I can have some added functionality with the touchpad if I buy a PS4 controller then all the better.
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(09-06-2013, 03:18 AM)
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Oh fuck please yes
TheOGB
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Lord God Almighty
Valkyr Junkie
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I believe the Octodad demo in the Indie area at PAX had a DS4 plugged into a PC.
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Originally Posted by VanWinkle

This is awesome, but do any plug and play USB controllers work on Steam? Or does it have to be the 360 controller? If it worked on Steam, that would be incredible.

That logitech controllers works with steam.
StevieP
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(09-06-2013, 03:18 AM)
Yes. This is how a lot of the reveal, e3 games were played (PC build, ps4 pad).
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If this is true I might end up buying one before I ever consider owning the actual console

I'd love to be able to use Playstation controller layout as my PC pad over 360, but motionjoy is such a crapshoot.
danhese007
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And a video of the controller properties screen

Button list
  1. Square
  2. Cross
  3. Circle
  4. Triangle
  5. L1
  6. R1
  7. L2
  8. R2
  9. Start?
  10. Share? (These 2 buttons aren't labelled on this controller, but button 9 is to the left of the touchpad, and button 10 is to the right)
  11. L3
  12. R3
  13. Playstation
  14. Touchpad
courtesy of reddit.
Last edited by danhese007; 09-06-2013 at 03:21 AM.
alr1ght
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Originally Posted by VanWinkle

This is awesome, but do any plug and play USB controllers work on Steam? Or does it have to be the 360 controller? If it worked on Steam, that would be incredible.

Big picture mode works fine with most controllers (Dinput and Xinput).
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Hmm, nice.
KarmaCow
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Well I wanted another controller for 2D stuff, so might as well pick up a PS4 controller then.
epmode
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Originally Posted by alr1ght

you mean Direct Input, not MS's proprietary Xinput.

I honestly had no idea that XInput was proprietary. I figured that it must be free to use since most modern controllers support it. I guess I'll hold on to X360ce for a while longer then!
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Additional "verification" was in the comment section of the Reddit post:

[–]Halon50 161 points 23 hours ago*
Hmm. Brb gonna try this (DS4 controller into a PC).
EDIT: Yeah it works! For devs or enthusiasts who are interested in this stuff, it shows up on Win7 as a standard "Wireless Controller". The "Test Controller" properties shows 14 buttons and 3 axes of rotation. Here's a screenshot with the R2 and L2 buttons held halfway down so you can see them align with the "X-Rotation" and "Y-Rotation" bars.
http://i.imgur.com/tG6eB4f.png
The left stick position is in the box. The right stick is Z-axis and Z-rotation. I guess it's just like the XB360 controller in these respects. I can't seem to activate button 13, but button 14 is active when I click the touchpad down.
EDIT 2: Button 13 is the Playstation button.
EDIT 11: Button list
Square
Cross
Circle
Triangle
L1
R1
L2
R2
Start?
Share? (These 2 buttons aren't labelled on this controller, but button 9 is to the left of the touchpad, and button 10 is to the right)
L3
R3
Playstation
Touchpad
"Point of View Hat" has 8 settings for the Directional Buttons.
I'm gonna go set up controller profiles on Steam so I can use it when I get one in 2.5 months!
EDIT: Meh.
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In the video he provided (see the "Meh" edit) the controller is poorly illuminated due to the screen, but it has the same contour and stick placement of the DS4. Still find it weird that he just happened to have access to a DS4 and stopped by the thread. Maybe super secret marketing? But even that would make zero sense, since Sony would get so much more good publicity by announcing it themselves.

Edit: Would any devs on Gaf be kind enough to triple check if this works?
Raonak
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(09-06-2013, 03:21 AM)
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PLEASE be true
qa_engineer
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(09-06-2013, 03:22 AM)
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If they somehow got the speaker, headset jack, and led to work this would be epic.
alr1ght
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(09-06-2013, 03:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by epmode

I honestly had no idea that XInput was proprietary. I figured that it must be free to use since most modern controllers support it. I guess I'll hold on to X360ce for a while longer then!

Well it was developed by MS, even though it provides zero benefits over DirectInput. I don't know if they charge to use it, but a few Logitech controllers work with it.

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