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Noi
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(09-08-2013, 11:49 PM)
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http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A0s-HijVdEOfaf3WCF-Q

So for the past few days, this russian channel has been going around and claiming copyright infringement on a ton of persona-related videos, including LPs, OSTs, gameplay clips from tons of popular channels. Some channels have even been suspended entirely. I have a hard time imagining that Atlus themselves won't take some form of action soon.

Even Megaten channel Devilmaylol has had to take down all of their stuff or face being shut down.

Edit #1:

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

I've been irritated over this since yesterday. Now that I know that it's not just soundtrack videos and that it's now gameplay videos and stuff, it's gotten really out of hand.

Additionally, I've noticed that there are four separate Russian accounts that seemed to have uploaded the last few videos that were somewhat popular from these suspended accounts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSc...wAIlPXEliUkSTQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiV...0CBDwtgRSZ7DNA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeW...dxsI8mdn3Kq23A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKd...3fqbCHFaqSj23A

It got to that point where I feel like the person is phishing for info, simply because when you file a counter-notification, you must supply your real name, your address, your phone number, etc. and the other party will see it. So it's pretty tricky.

As I've written elsewhere: While researching Светлана Галка online and "Persona" brought up this link: http://tinyurl.com/mu26nfm from Russian website called "Persona Stars". This has absolutely nothing to do with the Persona IP by Atlus at all, nor does it have anything to do with Aniplex who published the soundtracks, so it's interesting to see that. I surmise that the individual or their website is automatically flagging anything with the word "Persona" in their name.

Additionally, from the comments on this page: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A...F-Q/discussion, I've noticed that many of the people participating in this discussion and another individual who was mentioned by one of the posters also had their account flagged because they had uploaded something with the word "Persona" in the video title. This can also be searched because of the cache. For example: http://www.youtube.com/user/theultimateonejps had remixes of Persona music, and this account was wrongfully terminated due to a similar copyright claim by Светлана Галка, who I will once again note, does not have anything to do with Atlus's Persona IP in the slightest.

It's incredibly strange that a Japanese video game company's IP and music is being flagged and claimed by someone who is purportedly a Russian soap opera star (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%...B2%D0%BD%D0%B0). I don't believe that this person is legit at all. I would caution anyone who is thinking of filing a counter-notification to probably sit on it for now.

Edit #2: So much for related stuff being safe.

Originally Posted by Despera

I got this logging into one of my random channels:

The hell just happened here?

Last edited by Noi; 09-09-2013 at 01:06 AM.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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(09-08-2013, 11:52 PM)
Some random actress managed to shut down channels simply through claims? Does Youtube do actual research into the accusations people make?
Soriku
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(09-08-2013, 11:52 PM)
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Fuck off Russian woman.
TheChaos0
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(09-08-2013, 11:53 PM)
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What...wait what?
Sophia
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(09-08-2013, 11:53 PM)
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This explains why a lot of the Persona Music Live clips that had been up for over a year were randomly disappearing.
ThroneZwei
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(09-08-2013, 11:53 PM)
Maybe she bought Atlus? Have we heard about that situmacation they were in?
DR2K
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(09-08-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Well this is fucking stupid
FluxWaveZ
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(09-08-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Weird. I even recognize the name "Slayer0"; probably from videos I've seen in the past.

Guess she's on a mission.

Originally Posted by ThroneZwei

Maybe she bought Atlus? Have we heard about that situmacation they were in?

Yes. A random, Russian actress bought Atlus.
Neiteio
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(09-08-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Soriku

Fuck off Russian woman.

WE WON THE COLD WAR.

Y U STILL RUSSIAN.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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(09-08-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Look at the lack of views on her channel. This is a scam.
maquiladora
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(09-08-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Thanks Putin.
Inorigo
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(09-08-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sophia

This explains why a lot of the Persona Music Live clips that had been up for over a year were randomly disappearing.

Right. Gbraga mentioned that.

Whoa.
Fedelias
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(09-08-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neiteio

WE WON THE COLD WAR.

Y U STILL RUSSIAN.

.
Zukuu
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(09-08-2013, 11:55 PM)
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And that's what's wrong with the internet copyright. Youtube needs to act in advance due to save haven policy, so they won't be taken down long. Now imagine SOPA would have been green light... when a random gal can do it NOW already.
Reversed
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(09-08-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Perhaps it's the start of viral campaign for Russiona 5 (+ more unbearable puns).
Last edited by Reversed; 09-08-2013 at 11:58 PM.
-Horizon-
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So they don't even verify these accusations?
YouTube just goes along with them? I'm not sure how the system for this works.

Originally Posted by Neiteio

WE WON THE COLD WAR.

Y U STILL RUSSIAN.

http://asset3.neogaf.com/forum/image...ine=1376285652
Sophia
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(09-08-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Good god, I searched "Persona music live" and it's a ghost town. Somewhere in the range of 60 videos all been hit by this person.

Youtube pls.
TwisTz
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(09-08-2013, 11:56 PM)
She must be Russian to get rid of them.

Ba doom tish.
Inorigo
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(09-08-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Reversed

Perhaps it's the start for a viral campaign for Russiona 5 (+ more unbearable puns).

I was waiting for someone to say it.
KimonoNoNo
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(09-08-2013, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Brawly Likes to Brawl

Some random actress managed to shut down channels simply through claims? Does Youtube do actual research into the accusations people make?

Nope, Youtube operates on a "Guilty until proven innocent" basis.
TheChaos0
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(09-08-2013, 11:57 PM)
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If this is the case can I just claim that her videos infringe my copyright? Eh? Eh? Eh?
KoopaTheCasual
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(09-08-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Brawly Likes to Brawl

Some random actress managed to shut down channels simply through claims? Does Youtube do actual research into the accusations people make?

For a long stretch of time before last year, they did not. This got them into massive trouble when the Curiosity Mars Rover footage was taken down from NASA's official Youtube channel. The backlash was really bad, and they actually put effort into verifying claims. That said, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they got lazy again and went back to auto-approving any and all BS copyright claims on Youtube.
Dark Schala
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(09-08-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Thanks for putting this thread up, Noi. I absolutely positively appreciate it.

I've been irritated over this since yesterday. Now that I know that it's not just soundtrack videos and that it's now gameplay videos and stuff, it's gotten really out of hand.

Additionally, I've noticed that there are four separate Russian accounts that seemed to have uploaded the last few videos that were somewhat popular from these suspended accounts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSc...wAIlPXEliUkSTQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiV...0CBDwtgRSZ7DNA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeW...dxsI8mdn3Kq23A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKd...3fqbCHFaqSj23A

It got to that point where I feel like the person is phishing for info, simply because when you file a counter-notification, you must supply your real name, your address, your phone number, etc. and the other party will see it. So it's pretty tricky.

As I've written elsewhere: While researching Светлана Галка online and "Persona" brought up this link: http://tinyurl.com/mu26nfm from Russian website called "Persona Stars". This has absolutely nothing to do with the Persona IP by Atlus at all, nor does it have anything to do with Aniplex who published the soundtracks, so it's interesting to see that. I surmise that the individual or their website is automatically flagging anything with the word "Persona" in their name.

Additionally, from the comments on this page: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A...F-Q/discussion, I've noticed that many of the people participating in this discussion and another individual who was mentioned by one of the posters also had their account flagged because they had uploaded something with the word "Persona" in the video title. This can also be searched because of the cache. For example: http://www.youtube.com/user/theultimateonejps had remixes of Persona music, and this account was wrongfully terminated due to a similar copyright claim by Светлана Галка, who I will once again note, does not have anything to do with Atlus's Persona IP in the slightest.

It's incredibly strange that a Japanese video game company's IP and music is being flagged and claimed by someone who is purportedly a Russian soap opera star (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%...B2%D0%BD%D0%B0). I don't believe that this person is legit at all. I would caution anyone who is thinking of filing a counter-notification to probably sit on it for now.
MysticDistance
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(09-08-2013, 11:59 PM)
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I was just wondering yesterday why my Persona videos were being deleted off my channel by a Russian actress, and then this thread appears.
CrazyTank940
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(09-08-2013, 11:59 PM)
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From Russia with Bullshit


Seriously how does this even happen
yeehamuffins
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(09-08-2013, 11:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by TwisTz

She must be Russian to get rid of them.

Ba doom tish.

In Soviet Russia, Persona summons you!
The Cartographer
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(09-08-2013, 11:59 PM)
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But why?
cosmicblizzard
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(09-08-2013, 11:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Brawly Likes to Brawl

Does Youtube do actual research into the accusations people make?

Not unless you've got a super hit channel that gets them ad money, and sometimes not even then.
Y2Kev
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(09-09-2013, 12:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by FluxWaveZ

Weird. I even recognize the name "Slayer0"; probably from videos I've seen in the past.

Guess she's on a mission.



Yes. A random, Russian actress bought Atlus.

Please make a new thread for new news.
YesManKablam
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(09-09-2013, 12:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by TwisTz

She must be Russian to get rid of them.

Ba doom tish.

Leave.
EuropeOG
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(09-09-2013, 12:00 AM)
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Russia in cyber warfare
kasane
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(09-09-2013, 12:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by FluxWaveZ

Weird. I even recognize the name "Slayer0"; probably from videos I've seen in the past.

Guess she's on a mission.



Yes. A random, Russian actress bought Atlus.

Ehhhhhhhh
PotionBleue
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(09-09-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Copyright trolls strike again.
Still the main problem. Not enough checks are done which results in an enormous amount of false claims, and there are no legal penalties.
SatelliteOfLove
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(09-09-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Noi

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A0s-HijVdEOfaf3WCF-Q

So for the past few days, this russian channel has been going around and claiming copyright infringement on a ton of persona-related videos, including LPs, OSTs, gameplay clips from tons of popular channels. Some channels have even been suspended entirely. I have a hard time imagining that Atlus themselves won't take some form of action soon.

Even Megaten channel Devilmaylol has had to take down all of their stuff or face being shut down.

AsukaCrystalRose got her account nailed, too.

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Thanks for putting this thread up, Noi. I absolutely positively appreciate it.

I've been irritated over this since yesterday. Now that I know that it's not just soundtrack videos and that it's now gameplay videos and stuff, it's gotten really out of hand.

Additionally, I've noticed that there are four separate Russian accounts that seemed to have uploaded the last few videos that were somewhat popular from these suspended accounts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSc...wAIlPXEliUkSTQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiV...0CBDwtgRSZ7DNA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeW...dxsI8mdn3Kq23A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKd...3fqbCHFaqSj23A

It got to that point where I feel like the person is phishing for info, simply because when you file a counter-notification, you must supply your real name, your address, your phone number, etc. and the other party will see it. So it's pretty tricky.

As I've written elsewhere: While researching Светлана Галка online and "Persona" brought up this link: http://tinyurl.com/mu26nfm from Russian website called "Persona Stars". This has absolutely nothing to do with the Persona IP by Atlus at all, nor does it have anything to do with Aniplex who published the soundtracks, so it's interesting to see that. I surmise that the individual or their website is automatically flagging anything with the word "Persona" in their name.

Additionally, from the comments on this page: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A...F-Q/discussion, I've noticed that many of the people participating in this discussion and another individual who was mentioned by one of the posters also had their account flagged because they had uploaded something with the word "Persona" in the video title. This can also be searched because of the cache. For example: http://www.youtube.com/user/theultimateonejps had remixes of Persona music, and this account was wrongfully terminated due to a similar copyright claim by Светлана Галка, who I will once again note, does not have anything to do with Atlus's Persona IP in the slightest.

It's incredibly strange that a Japanese video game company's IP and music is being flagged and claimed by someone who is purportedly a Russian soap opera star (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%...B2%D0%BD%D0%B0). I don't believe that this person is legit at all. I would caution anyone who is thinking of filing a counter-notification to probably sit on it for now.

Wow.
Relaxed Muscle
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(09-09-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Is she related to Persona in some way?

Why is she even doing this?

^^
Edit: I see above me...wow, I don't even...
Last edited by Relaxed Muscle; 09-09-2013 at 12:05 AM.
Frumix
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(09-09-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Wouldn't be the first time for batch claims misfiring would it?
Edit: oh, it's bots.
gg youtube
bishoptl
(09-09-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Soriku

Fuck off Russian woman.

Hey

HEY
Showmeyamoves
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(09-09-2013, 12:03 AM)
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Ugh my youtube music playlist suffers again.
kai3345
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(09-09-2013, 12:04 AM)
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Has someone told Atlus about this? I doubt they'd be happy.
Leflus
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(09-09-2013, 12:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by TwisTz

She must be Russian to get rid of them.

Ba doom tish.

Can't blame her for Putin her own interests first.
MThanded
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(09-09-2013, 12:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Thanks for putting this thread up, Noi. I absolutely positively appreciate it.

I've been irritated over this since yesterday. Now that I know that it's not just soundtrack videos and that it's now gameplay videos and stuff, it's gotten really out of hand.

Additionally, I've noticed that there are four separate Russian accounts that seemed to have uploaded the last few videos that were somewhat popular from these suspended accounts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSc...wAIlPXEliUkSTQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiV...0CBDwtgRSZ7DNA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeW...dxsI8mdn3Kq23A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKd...3fqbCHFaqSj23A

It got to that point where I feel like the person is phishing for info, simply because when you file a counter-notification, you must supply your real name, your address, your phone number, etc. and the other party will see it. So it's pretty tricky.

As I've written elsewhere: While researching Светлана Галка online and "Persona" brought up this link: http://tinyurl.com/mu26nfm from Russian website called "Persona Stars". This has absolutely nothing to do with the Persona IP by Atlus at all, nor does it have anything to do with Aniplex who published the soundtracks, so it's interesting to see that. I surmise that the individual or their website is automatically flagging anything with the word "Persona" in their name.

Additionally, from the comments on this page: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A...F-Q/discussion, I've noticed that many of the people participating in this discussion and another individual who was mentioned by one of the posters also had their account flagged because they had uploaded something with the word "Persona" in the video title. This can also be searched because of the cache. For example: http://www.youtube.com/user/theultimateonejps had remixes of Persona music, and this account was wrongfully terminated due to a similar copyright claim by Светлана Галка, who I will once again note, does not have anything to do with Atlus's Persona IP in the slightest.

It's incredibly strange that a Japanese video game company's IP and music is being flagged and claimed by someone who is purportedly a Russian soap opera star (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%...B2%D0%BD%D0%B0). I don't believe that this person is legit at all. I would caution anyone who is thinking of filing a counter-notification to probably sit on it for now.

Well that is a huge privacy issue if true. Just in general that is a really bad policy.
Soriku
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(09-09-2013, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by bishoptl

Hey

HEY

Don't worry I didn't mean that in a racist/sexist way.
Mr-Joker
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(09-09-2013, 12:06 AM)
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Guys guys we are forgetting the most important factor....Is this Russian actress hot? ;p



But yeah it sucks how youtube flagging system doesn't check if the person actually owns the copyrights.
buddha0991
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(09-09-2013, 12:06 AM)
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At least the SMT vids seem safe!
EuropeOG
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Thanks for putting this thread up, Noi. I absolutely positively appreciate it.

I've been irritated over this since yesterday. Now that I know that it's not just soundtrack videos and that it's now gameplay videos and stuff, it's gotten really out of hand.

Additionally, I've noticed that there are four separate Russian accounts that seemed to have uploaded the last few videos that were somewhat popular from these suspended accounts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSc...wAIlPXEliUkSTQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiV...0CBDwtgRSZ7DNA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeW...dxsI8mdn3Kq23A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKd...3fqbCHFaqSj23A

It got to that point where I feel like the person is phishing for info, simply because when you file a counter-notification, you must supply your real name, your address, your phone number, etc. and the other party will see it. So it's pretty tricky.

As I've written elsewhere: While researching Светлана Галка online and "Persona" brought up this link: http://tinyurl.com/mu26nfm from Russian website called "Persona Stars". This has absolutely nothing to do with the Persona IP by Atlus at all, nor does it have anything to do with Aniplex who published the soundtracks, so it's interesting to see that. I surmise that the individual or their website is automatically flagging anything with the word "Persona" in their name.


Additionally, from the comments on this page: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5A...F-Q/discussion, I've noticed that many of the people participating in this discussion and another individual who was mentioned by one of the posters also had their account flagged because they had uploaded something with the word "Persona" in the video title. This can also be searched because of the cache. For example: http://www.youtube.com/user/theultimateonejps had remixes of Persona music, and this account was wrongfully terminated due to a similar copyright claim by Светлана Галка, who I will once again note, does not have anything to do with Atlus's Persona IP in the slightest.

It's incredibly strange that a Japanese video game company's IP and music is being flagged and claimed by someone who is purportedly a Russian soap opera star (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%...B2%D0%BD%D0%B0). I don't believe that this person is legit at all. I would caution anyone who is thinking of filing a counter-notification to probably sit on it for now.

Still, it can't just be one account flagging for it to be taken down, can it?
Marjar
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(09-09-2013, 12:07 AM)
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It's amazing how fucking awful YouTube is with this stuff.
Inorigo
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(09-09-2013, 12:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by buddha0991

At least the SMT vids seem safe!

Who?
Superturkeys
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(09-09-2013, 12:07 AM)
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All right. Which one of you posted 'fuck off' on every single one of her videos? Good job
kewlmyc
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(09-09-2013, 12:07 AM)
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This is bullshit. theultimateonejps had some of the best Persona remixes and they're all gone due to some Russian actress laying claim to stuff that doesn't even belong to her. Goddammit, Youtube.

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