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Tookay
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(09-14-2013, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by PairOfFilthySocks

...


No...just no...that's not what Wind Waker looks like.

Yeah.

It looks better.
BolognaSoup
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(09-14-2013, 10:36 PM)
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Man this game is such a pure pleasure to look at. Never completed it the first time either so I'm really looking forward to this.
PairOfFilthySocks
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(09-14-2013, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by akidnamededdy

Huh? That shot looks outstanding.

No.

This is how that room should look:
R0ckman
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(09-14-2013, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

Is this not the case with most fanbases? Why single out Nintendo fans?

I dont want to take this too far off topic, but I think the deal with Xbox showed that some fans will realize when a company has gone too far. From what I've observed I don't think that Nintendo fans will jump ship if they ever develop something that inevitably screws over the customer.

I also never heard of a company treating the consumer like a child. Which Nintendo does. I work as a web and app dev and I work with the people who promote things in the company. They will talk to the consumers and actually listen to their target audience. It sounds like Nintendo will do this:

Fans: We want MOTHER 3 please!
Nintendo: No you don't, you want Mario Party 1011...
*Mario Party 1011 sells like complete shit.*
Nintendo: Stupid fans dont know what they want.
Fans: We want a new F-Zero game.
Nintendo: No you don't, you want Wii Shit!

And the cycle continues...
hwy_61
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(09-14-2013, 10:39 PM)
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I have no idea where to display the Ganon figure. I guess I'll put it on my TV stand...

Where the hell do you people display you LE/SE crap?
BlackJace
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(09-14-2013, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

I dont want to take this too far off topic, but I think the deal with Xbox showed that some fans will realize when a company has gone too far. From what I've observed I don't think that Nintendo fans will jump ship if they ever develop something that inevitably screws over the customer.

I also never heard of a company treating the consumer like a child. Which Nintendo does. I work as a web and app dev and I work with the people who promote things in the company. They will talk to the consumers and actually listen to their target audience. It sounds like Nintendo will do this:

Fans: We want MOTHER 3 please!
Nintendo: No you don't, you want Mario Party 1011...
*Mario Party 1011 sells like complete shit.*
Nintendo: Stupid fans dont know what they want.
Fans: We want a new F-Zero game.
Nintendo: No you don't, you want Wii Shit!

And the cycle continues...

Stop shitting up the thread or you won't last here long.
oatmeal
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(09-14-2013, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

Anyone else buying it digital and the Limited Edition? I can't wait til October 4th ._.

Yesm
hwy_61
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(09-14-2013, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

I dont want to take this too far off topic, but I think the deal with Xbox showed that some fans will realize when a company has gone too far. From what I've observed I don't think that Nintendo fans will jump ship if they ever develop something that inevitably screws over the customer.

I also never heard of a company treating the consumer like a child. Which Nintendo does. I work as a web and app dev and I work with the people who promote things in the company. They will talk to the consumers and actually listen to their target audience. It sounds like Nintendo will do this:

Fans: We want MOTHER 3 please!
Nintendo: No you don't, you want Mario Party 1011...
*Mario Party 1011 sells like complete shit.*
Nintendo: Stupid fans dont know what they want.
Fans: We want a new F-Zero game.
Nintendo: No you don't, you want Wii Shit!

And the cycle continues...

This shit post doesn't belong here, dude.
cdkee
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(09-14-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Interceptor

1080p / 30fps (because of the animations)




Needs to be in the OP.

Those colors. That is gorgeous.
Jaded Alyx
(09-14-2013, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

Stuff

Funny how you use Mother 3 as an example when the only reason we got Earthbound is because fans asked for it on Miiverse.

There are many examples where Nintendo listens to their fans, and really, everything you say can be leveled at other companies.

Finally, not all Nintendo fans are the same. Generalising isn't going to get you far here.

Let's move on.
Zeer0id
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(09-14-2013, 10:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

stuff

Stop trying to derail the OT with this crap. If you want to talk about this, go make your own thread. Oh, and being a junior who can't make threads yet doesn't give you the right to post whatever the hell you want in other threads.
cdkee
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(09-14-2013, 10:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by PairOfFilthySocks

No.

This is how that room should look:

Well your shot shows that room after it gets "reactivated"
R0ckman
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(09-14-2013, 10:50 PM)
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Dude he asked me why I single out Nintendo fans, i was just answering his question. Seriously. But anyway ON TOPIC, i was unser the impression that they would do so much more with the Wii U version of this, i'm suprised people are excited for it.
Jaded Alyx
(09-14-2013, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

Dude he asked me why I single out Nintendo fans, i was just answering his question. Seriously. But anyway ON TOPIC, i was unser the impression that they would do so much more with the Wii U version of this, i'm suprised people are excited for it.

Sigh...so much more like what? Did you read the list of changes?
Lexxus
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(09-14-2013, 10:54 PM)
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I ordered both the bundle and the ganondorf figure. If things go well, I will be selling the download card. Hopefully I can find a good buyer.
PairOfFilthySocks
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(09-14-2013, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by cdkee

Well your shot shows that room after it gets "reactivated"

The shot from the HD version is (WW spoilers)also from when the room is reactivated. It is entirely grey with no color before then.
hwy_61
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(09-14-2013, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

Dude he asked me why I single out Nintendo fans, i was just answering his question. Seriously. But anyway ON TOPIC, i was unser the impression that they would do so much more with the Wii U version of this, i'm suprised people are excited for it.

They've remastered the entire game, and added some mechanics to some of the annoyances. What were you wishing for?
Shaanyboi
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(09-14-2013, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

Dude he asked me why I single out Nintendo fans, i was just answering his question. Seriously. But anyway ON TOPIC, i was unser the impression that they would do so much more with the Wii U version of this, i'm suprised people are excited for it.

What were you expecting, exactly?

Originally Posted by PairOfFilthySocks

The shot from the HD version is (WW spoilers)also from when the room is reactivated. It is entirely grey with no color before then.

HD version isn't greyscaled at that point like the original is - they added a slight yellowish tone. Trust me, it's still frozen in that image.
Last edited by Shaanyboi; 09-14-2013 at 10:56 PM.
Shiggy
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(09-14-2013, 10:55 PM)
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Really excited about this game! Seems like the limited edition really is limited. Should make some profit during Christmas. :D
PapaJustify
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(09-14-2013, 10:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

Dude he asked me why I single out Nintendo fans, i was just answering his question. Seriously. But anyway ON TOPIC, i was unser the impression that they would do so much more with the Wii U version of this, i'm suprised people are excited for it.

Dude, if you don't like Wind Waker you'll probably never like it, but there is no way to argue that Nintendo hasn't done all it can to make this remaster the best it possibly can be.

For me, who loved the original, this is like a dream come true.
Barrow Roll
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(09-14-2013, 11:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by PairOfFilthySocks

The shot from the HD version is (WW spoilers)also from when the room is reactivated. It is entirely grey with no color before then.

I believe they wanted to give it more a sepia toned look in the HD version.
JavyOO7
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(09-14-2013, 11:00 PM)
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I wish Majora's Mask got this treatment too...
Anteo
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(09-14-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by hwy_61

They've remastered the entire game, and added some mechanics to some of the annoyances. What were you wishing for?

Probably 3 more dugeons, a master quest and a demo of the first 7 dugeons of zelda WiiU
hwy_61
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(09-14-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Anteo

Probably 3 more dugeons, a master quest and a demo of the first 7 dugeons of zelda WiiU

Lol
PairOfFilthySocks
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(09-14-2013, 11:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shaanyboi


HD version isn't greyscaled at that point like the original is - they added a slight yellowish tone. Trust me, it's still frozen in that image.

Oh man, in that case I'm looking forward to what it looks like properly then. Even more overdone post-processing galore! Time to have our eyeballs singed.

Edit:

Originally Posted by Tathanen

It's easy to tell what state that room is in. What sword is Link holding?

Good point, heh.
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Tathanen
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(09-14-2013, 11:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by PairOfFilthySocks

The shot from the HD version is (WW spoilers)also from when the room is reactivated. It is entirely grey with no color before then.

It should be easy to tell what state that room is in by the sword Link is holding. But this screenshot is odd, since that's 100% the after state (spoiler video proof). The sword is actually conflicting. Unless you can change which sword you have equipped? I forget if you could do that. Or it could just be an in-development nonsense screen.

[Edit] I edited this post into like 10 different things heh.
Last edited by Tathanen; 09-14-2013 at 11:09 PM.
Anteo
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(09-14-2013, 11:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by hwy_61

Lol

I just realized I misspelled dungeon, twice.

In other news I'm thinking about waiting for a physical copy of the game.
R0ckman
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(09-14-2013, 11:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by PapaJustify

Dude, if you don't like Wind Waker you'll probably never like it, but there is no way to argue that Nintendo hasn't done all it can to make this remaster the best it possibly can be.

For me, who loved the original, this is like a dream come true.

I actually loved the game, but I hate that it was rushed. And then when I hear that things get left out its a huge bummer.

I think I played through 3 or 4 times in a row when I first got it.

I thought with this remake Id get the chance to see a finished game. Id rather play an un hd game that is what the orginal envisionment of the game would be I guess. I want somekind of extra content. But you cant really say that anywhere without being called a troll.
Jaded Alyx
(09-14-2013, 11:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

I actually loved the game, but I hate that it was rushed. And then when I hear that things get left out its a huge bummer.

I think I played through 3 or 4 times in a row when I first got it.

I thought with this remake Id get the chance to see a finished game. Id rather play an un hd game that is what the orginal envisionment of the game would be I guess. I want somekind of extra content. But you cant really say that anywhere without being called a troll.

Who says it was rushed? What got left out?

The dungeons from the original that got cut were used in TP/other Zelda games.
Lexxus
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(09-14-2013, 11:09 PM)
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Oh, yeah I forgot to ask. This is my first time EVER playing a zelda game. Is it okay to play this game or should I play other Zelda game first?
Jaded Alyx
(09-14-2013, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lexxus

Oh, yeah I forgot to ask. This is my first time EVER playing a zelda game. Is it okay to play this game or should I play other Zelda game first?

Doesn't matter, though I suppose one might argue you should play OoT first.

Not at all necessary IMO
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(09-14-2013, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

I want somekind of extra content. But you cant really say that anywhere without being called a troll.

You don't know how bad I wanted some more islands. Nothing like new towns, but just some new stuff to discover and explore.
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Anth0ny
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(09-14-2013, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

Who says it was rushed? What got left out?

The dungeons from the original that got cut were used in TP/other Zelda games.

I don't want to have to play TP/other Zeldas to experience the dungeons that were cut from Wind Waker.

I wish they just added them into Wind Waker HD. this was their perfect chance.
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(09-14-2013, 11:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

I don't want to have to play TP/other Zeldas to experience the dungeons that were cut from Wind Waker.

I wish they just added them into Wind Waker HD. this was their perfect chance.

....you want TP dungeons in WWHD?
Mistle
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(09-14-2013, 11:16 PM)
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Can I play with the Pro Pad, but still have the gamepad for map and inventory?
Sort of like how Pikmin 3 worked.
Tathanen
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(09-14-2013, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny

I don't want to have to play TP/other Zeldas to experience the dungeons that were cut from Wind Waker.

I wish they just added them into Wind Waker HD. this was their perfect chance.

Sometimes (lots of times) when something is "cut" from a game, it's because they don't actually want it there. Maybe the dungeon ended up shitty, and only total re-development during the scope of Twilight Princess refactored it into something worthwhile, and at that point it was dependent upon mechanics that simply didn't exist in Wind Waker. You can't "just add" things like that. We really don't know enough about anything that was cut from Wind Waker to assume it's re-insertable in a fashion that would be any different from just making a brand new optional dungeon from scratch.

Now asking for a new bonus dungeon, that's not entirely unreasonable, there's been precedent (Zelda DX, LTTP GBA), but whatever they ended up making surely wouldn't even resemble something that was "cut" from the original game. That content can't possibly still exist in any kind of coherent or applicable form that would make its inclusion easy or expected.
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(09-14-2013, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

Who says it was rushed? What got left out?

The dungeons from the original that got cut were used in TP/other Zelda games.

Im pretty sure it was in an interview. I dont believe them on the "we added ideas in other games" thing. I did want more islands.
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(09-14-2013, 11:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lexxus

Oh, yeah I forgot to ask. This is my first time EVER playing a zelda game. Is it okay to play this game or should I play other Zelda game first?

From your avatar I gather you own a 3DS. There's a reason Ocarina of Time comes up when people talk about the best games ever. You really, really owe it to yourself to try it.

That being said, no, I don't think so. I suppose you could call Wind Waker a sequel, but it's not built like one, and there is no supposed knowledge or anything.
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(09-14-2013, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by R0ckman

Im pretty sure it was in an interview. I dont believe them on the "we added ideas in other games" thing. I did want more islands.

What's not to believe? See: Mario Galaxy 2. Games often end development with huge volumes of content left on the cutting room floor, in various states of completion or quality. It seems exceedingly natural to look at that content when you're working on later games, and see if any of it can be salvaged.
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(09-14-2013, 11:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lexxus

Oh, yeah I forgot to ask. This is my first time EVER playing a zelda game. Is it okay to play this game or should I play other Zelda game first?

You can definitely play this one without much trouble.

This was the first Zelda I completed (to my shame).

The fact you're new to the series shouldn't put you off from getting this game.
Gillian Seed
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(09-14-2013, 11:32 PM)
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The one thing I do miss is the colored Gamecube buttons on the Hud. The white looks really blah to me.
techbwoy
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(09-14-2013, 11:38 PM)
This is nice too bad I already have a Wii U. I hope this drives sales!!! The Wii U is a awesome system.
R0ckman
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Originally Posted by Tathanen

What's not to believe? See: Mario Galaxy 2. Games often end development with huge volumes of content left on the cutting room floor, in various states of completion or quality. It seems exceedingly natural to look at that content when you're working on later games, and see if any of it can be salvaged.

Well i guess from how I look at it, you can pull elements out of something but it wouldnt be the same. Lets say the water temple from TP was meant to be Jabun, would you rather have had Jabuns belly complete with newly and interestingly designed WW style enemies and elements or what we ended up with in TP?

I hope to god they dont design their dungeons from how it works to what the enviornment is. Enviornment to mechanics seems much better.

Wasnt there suppose to be one last sage too? Using Aryl for a sage would have been nice. To thus day I hate that she was a plot device.
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(09-14-2013, 11:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gillian Seed

The one thing I do miss is the colored Gamecube buttons on the Hud. The white looks really blah to me.

I dunno, I like it personally. It's less conspicuous, which is a plus in my book, for any HUD.
Andrax
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(09-14-2013, 11:57 PM)

Originally Posted by JavyOO7

I wish Majora's Mask got this treatment too...

After falling in love with OoT3D personally I'm hoping for a 3DS re-release! (Although it would be so awesome on the WiiU.)
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(09-14-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tathanen

You're right. Hey OP, maybe use this list instead: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=735

Like I said, still pretty sad.
BY2K
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Originally Posted by Crewnh

Like I said, still pretty sad.

How!? Most HD remasters don't even do half that stuff!
Crewnh
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Originally Posted by BY2K

How!? Most HD remasters don't even do half that stuff!

I thought this was supposed to be a remake.
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Originally Posted by Crewnh

I thought this was supposed to be a remake.

Remakes are usually done from the ground-up. This is an enhanced-port/remaster.
Lexxus
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Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx

Doesn't matter, though I suppose one might argue you should play OoT first.

Not at all necessary IMO

Originally Posted by Puntervold

From your avatar I gather you own a 3DS. There's a reason Ocarina of Time comes up when people talk about the best games ever. You really, really owe it to yourself to try it.

That being said, no, I don't think so. I suppose you could call Wind Waker a sequel, but it's not built like one, and there is no supposed knowledge or anything.

Originally Posted by Heavy's Sandvich

You can definitely play this one without much trouble.

This was the first Zelda I completed (to my shame).

The fact you're new to the series shouldn't put you off from getting this game.

Ah, okay. Thanks for the input.

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