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kuroshiki
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(09-21-2013, 06:37 AM)
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http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...19_616138.html




Watch impress did interview with PSVITA TV's engineers.

It is a rather a long interview, but one part has some juicy info on it.



--Vita TVの映像出力解像度は?

--What is Vita TV's display resolution?

島田:1080i(インタレース)ですね。ゲームとしては元々964544です。

1080i. Game will be rendered at 964 x 544.

 実は既存のVitaにもスケーラーは入っています。964544のものを引き延ばして表示することもあります。ビデオなどは問題を生みやすいので、720p のフォーマットなら720pで流す、といったことをしています。

To be honest, the original Vita already had scaler built in.

--新しく特別なスケーラーを乗せたわけでない、と?

So there is no new scaler installed this time?

島田:はい。今回は。

Well, there is not, at least for now.

--ということは、元々Vitaでは、インターフェースさえあればテレビに映るはずだったわけですか?

Wait, does that mean, the original Vita only just required cable interface to shoot images to TV display?

Note: the original article only mentioned 'interface'.

島田:そうなりますね。

Yes. Of course.



Well, there you go folks. Now we know what that mystery port was for.
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(09-21-2013, 06:39 AM)
kuppy
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That's pretty funny, considering all the press asked for a way to record the Vita footage properly so that they could have included it in reviews and what not.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
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(09-21-2013, 06:40 AM)
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Profound sadness.
kasane
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(09-21-2013, 06:42 AM)
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Im still looking for stuff to put on the mystery port. Triggers perhaps?
SwiftDeath
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(09-21-2013, 06:42 AM)
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Well that seems pointless to not tell us sooner
FrostuTheNinja
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(09-21-2013, 06:43 AM)
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I wonder if any type of potential after market hardware could take advantage of them...
deranged_666
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(09-21-2013, 06:48 AM)
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Cool. Maybe at this rate, we'll find out what the IEEE 1394 port on the PS2 was supposed to be used for :D
todd360
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(09-21-2013, 06:54 AM)
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mystery ports are secret sauce
$h@d0w
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(09-21-2013, 06:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by deranged_666

Cool. Maybe at this rate, we'll find out what the IEEE 1394 port on the PS2 was supposed to be used for :D

It had a use, you could play LAN games with it.
DarkCloud
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(09-21-2013, 06:58 AM)
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Now tell me what the ethernet jack in my Guitar Hero 2 Xplorer is for.
Massa
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(09-21-2013, 06:59 AM)
Edit for clarity: the Vita GPU is capable of TV output, what he means is that the system didn't have an interface built in for video out. That's not what the "mystery port" is.
Last edited by Massa; 09-21-2013 at 07:04 AM.
$h@d0w
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Originally Posted by DarkCloud

Now tell me what the ethernet jack in my Guitar Hero 2 Xplorer is for.

Effects pedal, never released.
JWong
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(09-21-2013, 07:00 AM)
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Could 'Original' be translated as 'Prototype'?

I definitely know the tv scaler isn't in retail Vitas.
$h@d0w
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(09-21-2013, 07:02 AM)
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Google translate:

- Reason for the change in the liquid crystal from OLED (organic EL) panel What is?

Matsumoto: It is said that towards the OLED is beautiful but in general, the performance of the liquid crystal, does not it? going up very much. There is also a liquid crystal "strength" in it. Or strong outside light. And, I think because it is used by a lot of production, Dura Stability (durability and availability) is strong do you say and reliability. Among the PSP so that was the case, go spread a layer of audience, extreme story, people throw the body is also not come out. I thought with the liquid crystal in such, enhance the casual sex even more to be, in the good.

LCD enhances casual sex confirmed.
FriedConsole
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(09-21-2013, 07:03 AM)
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There must have been an executive decision not to offer a TV out. Sell it for $100 on Sony's website in limited quantities and it would have probably made a profit. Must have thought it would conflict with PS3 sales. I guess they are ok with the Vita TV affecting PS3 sales? I really don't understand it.
kuroshiki
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(09-21-2013, 07:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Massa

That has nothing to do with the mystery port.

It does. Interview goes on saying the new vita doesn't have scaler built in. One of things that got omitted from original vita is the port.
whitehawk
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(09-21-2013, 07:06 AM)
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I figured that was what the port was for. I guess they decided that instead of releasing a $30 cable, they would release a $100 Vita TV.
Berordn
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Originally Posted by FriedConsole

There must have been an executive decision not to offer a TV out. Sell it for $100 on Sony's website in limited quantities and it would have probably made a profit. Must have thought it would conflict with PS3 sales. I guess they are ok with the Vita TV affecting PS3 sales? I really don't understand it.

The PS3's not going to be much of a priority for long.
Tain
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(09-21-2013, 07:08 AM)
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1080i? Why?
JoshHood
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(09-21-2013, 07:11 AM)
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Am I missing where they say that's what the port was for?
I've only ever seen modded, debug and devkit Vitas export video over an HDMI port.
PAULINK
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(09-21-2013, 07:15 AM)
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This... kinda makes me sad. Wish they would still consider creating it, though it would be for a dead market since they're pushing this new model without the port. Very lame, I am pretty disappointed they did not release a video out cable. Would be more cost effective for me than buying a vita tv. Hell, they can mark it up to like $50, I don't care!
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(09-21-2013, 07:16 AM)
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If that's the case why do the devkits have a separate HDMI out port?
Elija2
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Originally Posted by $h@d0w

Google translate:

LCD enhances casual sex confirmed.

I bet all those OLED elitists feel foolish now.
ShinMaruku
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(09-21-2013, 07:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Elija2

I bet all those OLED elitists feel foolish now.

OLED is still LCD it's just how light projected. :P
Ravage
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(09-21-2013, 07:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by kuroshiki

--What is Vita TV's display resolution?

島田:1080i(インタレース)ですね。ゲームとしては元々964544です。

1080i. Game will be rendered at 964 x 544.

Wait a minute, isn't the Vita native rez 960 x 544?
Luigiv
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(09-21-2013, 07:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tain

1080i? Why?

Yeah I don't get this either. The only logical reason I can think of why Sony would do that is to save a few cents per unit on the upscaler and hdmi controller but that just strikes me as an incredibly unsony like move.
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(09-21-2013, 07:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ravage

Wait a minute, isn't the Vita native rez 960 x 544?

yeah
Infinite Xero
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(09-21-2013, 07:34 AM)
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I used to think the mystery port was a mystery too until I actually looked it up. Apparently in the Vita's manual (that thing no one reads), it labels all of the devices ports, including the "mystery" port. And the mystery port is....

*Drum Roll*

An accessory port, used for add-ons. I'm guessing this would be for stuff like similar to the PSP's accessories like GPS, Camera, etc.

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...partnames.html
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ArtHands
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(09-21-2013, 07:40 AM)
It almost sounds like they took out the TV-out at the last min just to sell it as a VitaTV after a period of time.
soapypanda
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(09-21-2013, 07:41 AM)
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can they make a hdmi with an adapter that fits this port? I would pay $30 for it and they get to make lots of money.
Guymelef
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(09-21-2013, 07:50 AM)
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Remember...

Who made use of the port...?
Takao
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Originally Posted by Infinite Xero

An accessory port, used for add-ons. I'm guessing this would be for stuff like similar to the PSP's accessories like GPS, Camera, etc.

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...partnames.html

you mean things vita has built in
JWong
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Originally Posted by kuroshiki

It does. Interview goes on saying the new vita doesn't have scaler built in. One of things that got omitted from original vita is the port.

The scaler used HDMI in.
Infinite Xero
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Originally Posted by Takao

you mean things vita has built in

I was just giving an example of accessories the PSP had that used its accessory port, and the same thing could be done with Vita but obviously with different functions as the accessories for the PSP are already built in to the Vita.
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Originally Posted by Tain

1080i? Why?

Limited framebuffer memory?
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(09-21-2013, 11:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by kuroshiki

Wait, does that mean, the original Vita only just required cable interface to shoot images to TV display?

Note: the original article only mentioned 'interface'.

島田:そうなりますね。

Yes. Of course.



Well, there you go folks. Now we know what that mystery port was for.

Diablohead
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(09-21-2013, 11:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Guymelef

Remember...

Who made use of the port...?

Best port.
Ovek
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(09-21-2013, 11:19 AM)
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Don't the dev kit vitas just use the bottom charging port for hdmi out? And nothing in that interview suggests the mystery port was used.
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Originally Posted by Guymelef

Remember...

Who made use of the port...?

Ah yes, didn't some early models have something at the bottom too or am I mistaken?

I still remember the composite outputs the early models had.
LordCanti
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(09-21-2013, 11:32 AM)
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So that's how that guy modded Jeff Gerstmann's VITA.
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Originally Posted by Infinite Xero

I was just giving an example of accessories the PSP had that used its accessory port, and the same thing could be done with Vita but obviously with different functions as the accessories for the PSP are already built in to the Vita.

I know. The question is which kind of accessories were planned. Vita has two cameras, GPS if you buy the 3G model, and uses Bluetooth. I guess maybe a UMD drive? lol
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

Limited framebuffer memory?

Couldn't they increase it for the Vita TV at least?
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Originally Posted by Ravage

Wait a minute, isn't the Vita native rez 960 x 544?

The screen resolution is 960x544, but it sounds like it could already support the 1280x720 that the vita tv supports, provided with the right display, connections, and software.
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Originally Posted by Takao

I know. The question is which kind of accessories were planned. Vita has two cameras, GPS if you buy the 3G model, and uses Bluetooth. I guess maybe a UMD drive? lol

L2/R2 add on for remote play.

One can dream.
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Originally Posted by Takao

I know. The question is which kind of accessories were planned. Vita has two cameras, GPS if you buy the 3G model, and uses Bluetooth. I guess maybe a UMD drive? lol

I would buy the shit out of an attachable UMD drive. Too many PSP games in my collection that look better on Vita but I don't want to buy them on the PSN, or they're not available :(
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Originally Posted by ShinMaruku

OLED is still LCD it's just how light projected. :P

really? OLEDs are Liquid Crystal Displays? You learn something new everyday.
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Imo it's not that the purpose.

Originally Posted by Ravage

Wait a minute, isn't the Vita native rez 960 x 544?

Maybe is just a typing error.
Last edited by 2+2=5; 09-21-2013 at 12:52 PM.
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Originally Posted by ShinMaruku

OLED is still LCD it's just how light projected. :P

No you're thinking of LED backlighting.

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