PS Vita will be my first mobile gaming platform and I'm 28. I kinda wanted one anyway because I travel a lot for work now but this feature sealed the deal on the Vita.
So do you think I can hold out till Black Friday for a good deal and still secure an OLED version or should I pull the trigger sooner?
Are you a PS+ subscriber? If so, do it soon so you get more games I would say.Originally Posted by Fiveshift
It's decided.
PS Vita will be my first mobile gaming platform and I'm 28. I kinda wanted one anyway because I travel a lot for work now but this feature sealed the deal on the Vita.
So do you think I can hold out till Black Friday for a good deal and still secure an OLED version or should I pull the trigger sooner?
Oh god no thank you. I can't even imagine the ergonomics behind a monster like that. Not to mention the severe fragmentation that would bring out. If works for the DS because it's just a bigger form factor.Sony need to release a Vita XL. That has a 6 inch screen, full clickable analogs, and R2/L2. It should also have a bigger battery due to the larger size as well as being able to use it as a PS4 controller as it will have all the inputs.
I'd buy it in a hearbeat if remote play is good.
Non-OLED vita is announced only for Japan, and they will be sold only after ~ mid-October.Originally Posted by Fiveshift
It's decided.
PS Vita will be my first mobile gaming platform and I'm 28. I kinda wanted one anyway because I travel a lot for work now but this feature sealed the deal on the Vita.
So do you think I can hold out till Black Friday for a good deal and still secure an OLED version or should I pull the trigger sooner?
As for timing of the purchase, that's your choice. What I would recommend to you is to think about purchasing PS+ right now if you dont have one already. A lot of good Vita games are currently offered in Instant Game Collection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant...lection#2013_3
I don't think you can just assume that because the PS3/PSP remote play had direct access the PS4/Vita remote play will be the same. As you said that was implemented 6 years ago. I was hoping for evidence more concrete than precedence. Not saying it's not true, just wanted word from Sony.#1 Yes
#2 WiFi Direct is just a marketing term [its not a hardware feature, its software]. PS3 can connect directly to Vita, and then with much lower priority also talk with Internet router [for full internet speed, LAN cable is highly recommended).
For sources... Nobody has PS4 yet, so no sources. Everything we know is from Remote Play that was introduced 6+ years ago on PS3, and Sony did not showed any intention to change its operation. Everything that worked on PS3 is present on PS4, only now it works much better. As for the nature of WiFi Direct, go read first 2-3 pages of this thread, one Gaffer posted info.
It'll be able to connect directly to the PS4. I don't have a fact sheet for you, it just going to be able to do it and it would be utterly utterly backwards for them to stop doing it as it would prohibit anyone without a router from using the feature.Originally Posted by Oni Jazar
I don't think you can just assume that because the PS3/PSP remote play had direct access the PS4/Vita remote play will be the same. As you said that was implemented 6 years ago. I was hoping for evidence more concrete than precedence. Not saying it's not true, just wanted word from Sony.
Can't wait
Read da OP. This is really old news, and it's been confirmed.Originally Posted by Oni Jazar
I don't think you can just assume that because the PS3/PSP remote play had direct access the PS4/Vita remote play will be the same. As you said that was implemented 6 years ago. I was hoping for evidence more concrete than precedence. Not saying it's not true, just wanted word from Sony.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...vita-2000.aspxThe Vita 2000 was connected to the PlayStation via USB cable. When I tried unplugging the cable to get a truer sense of the handheld’s weight, the stream between stopped, informing me that the remote play wasn’t occurring over wi-fi.
Fair enough. But I'm pretty sure yosp and several other Sony folks have talked about it plenty.Originally Posted by Oni Jazar
Read my first post. I need a source other then "da OP".
Guess we'll have to wait until all of the hardware is released out into the wild before we know for sure how well it works. I'm already getting the sense that people won't believe this until they try it for themselves. We will have people here doubting it well into 2014, I'll bet. I'm skeptical myself, but mainly only about the over-the-web play.
Remote play on the PSP/PS3 never manifested into much more than a laggy headache filled product what with router issues and poor network performance etc. so with Gaikai and the dedicated hardware packed into both of the newer hardware I am hoping this will work much better this time around.
Thanks for putting together the thread as it has me pumped for some PS4/Vita remote play!
Originally Posted by coolasj19
Controversy!?
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...vita-2000.aspx
To be perfectly honest the far bigger controversy in that case would be that TV out from a PSV via a cable is entirely possibleThis was posted before.
We have gaffer who played Vita remote play on TGS showfloor, and WiFI router was right beside him. He thinks USB cable was there only for power.
Obviously doesn't look to be the case
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/382086883452256256
... shame, but this was kinda expected. PS4 video encoder probably has specific mode for livestream and another one for remote play. It cant provide video for both services.
While it might not be able to encode two streams at once, why not send identical streams out?At last Yosp answered one of my questions...
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/382086883452256256
... shame, but this was kinda expected. PS4 video encoder probably has specific mode for livestream and another one for remote play. It cant provide video for both services.
Regardless, I'm sure it won't be a big issue.
Did not know (or even consider) operating PS4 OS from Vita, streaming other streams to your vita, etc. So cool.
Did you tried to connect to your PS3 from any other location?Originally Posted by Freedom = $1.05
Is there any reason why I can't remote play via the Internet from my girlfriends house? It never connects. I've gone so far as to set my ps3 up with a static ip and have port forwarded some ports and everything. It works fine at home when I use the Internet option, btw
That's what the mystery port is. Apparently there was an interview with a Japanese Sony Engineer and he said the Vita has a scaler in it. I'm on mobile so I'm not gonna go digging for the link right now.Originally Posted by SwiftDeath
To be perfectly honest the far bigger controversy in that case would be that TV out from a PSV via a cable is entirely possible
Obviously doesn't look to be the case
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=105Pretty sure this was debunked.
This was debunked?http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...19_616138.html
PlayStation Vita/Vita TV 開発者インタビュー
Interview with the PlayStation Vita/Vita TV developers
--Vita TVの映像出力解像度は?
What's the output relosution of Vita TV?
島田：1080i(インタレース)ですね。ゲームとしては元々964×544です。
Shimada: 1080i. Games are originally rendered at 964x544.
実は既存のVitaにもスケーラーは入っています。964×544のものを引き延ばして表示することもあります。ビデオなどは問題を生みやすいので、720pの フォーマットなら720pで流す、といったことをしています。
In fact, the original Vita (handheld) is equipped with a scaler. Sometimes images are even stretched from 964×544. For video contents, which tend to have problems, it goes 720p for 720p sources.
--新しく特別なスケーラーを乗せたわけでない、と?
So it's nothing new or special when it comes to the scaler.
島田：はい。今回は。
Shimada: No, not this time.
EDIT : Re-reading this. I'm not exactly sure what this is saying.
I have a Vaio that can do this, but none of them allow a pairing for a DS3. Instead Sony give software for remote keyboard, that is the only means of controlling remote play without unofficial drivers.PS3 remote play is officially supported on Sony Vaio laptops [edit- i originally wrote tablets :-/].
[i think there is also unofficial way to use it on any Windows PC]
You can also pair DS3 with those laptops.
If Sony releases official drivers, and releases a remote play app for laptops + tablets, it could be very successful. Vita remote play is great, but it would be better to pair a DS4 with a tablet and play that way.Originally Posted by BibiMaghoo
I have a Vaio that can do this, but none of them allow a pairing for a DS3. Instead Sony give software for remote keyboard, that is the only means of controlling remote play without unofficial drivers.
Exactly lol....Originally Posted by coolasj19
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=105
This was debunked?
EDIT : Re-reading this. I'm not exactly sure what this is saying.
I'm sure if there are no DS4 drivers at launch the fanbase will gather around and yell and scream at poor ole' Yoshida-san. I'd love to buy a second DS4 and dedicate it solely to PC gaming.Originally Posted by whitehawk
If Sony releases official drivers, and releases a remote play app for laptops + tablets, it could be very successful. Vita remote play is great, but it would be better to pair a DS4 with a tablet and play that way.
Damn. Always do your research kids.Exactly lol....
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/381235215558914048
Before this we knew that 4 Vita's can grab one video stream from PS4 and play that game in coop [lets say Rayman]. Now we know that PS4 is also a part of that equation.
Wait... we knew this?Yosp has confirmed that single screen couch coop games can be played on both PS4 and Vita/VitaTV via Remote play at the same time.
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https://twitter.com/yosp/status/381235215558914048
Before this we knew that 4 Vita's can grab one video stream from PS4 and play that game in coop [lets say Rayman]. Now we know that PS4 is also a part of that equation.
Amazing. That's bigger news then everything else they'd showed so far on PS4 remote play.Yes, yosp mentioned it in his tweets few months ago.
Btw, I've added few new FAQ questions in OP covering newly discovered stuff.
I thought it was going to work pretty much like the previous remote play, only with better quality/less delay.
Both PS4 and Vita have their own WiFi modules. You can connect them directly without the use home WiFi router. Look at diagrams in OP.Originally Posted by FoxhoundNL
Hey, with the direct connection from PS4 to PSV does it matter if you have and how good your WiFi connection is? I'm moving out in about 2-3 months and I'm not sure if there's good wireless internet where I'm moving to.. But it's a great feature, which I see myself using pretty frequently.
You can use Remote Play when you dont have connection to the Internet.
Sony is dumping tons of effort into this. Surprises me. It kinda makes me sad my PS4 is bundled with a Killzone disc. I'd rather buy it digitally now =/.Originally Posted by Bravocado
I absolutely freaking adore the possibilities when it comes to coop.
Yeah, I think they could've given us a cable. But, there's a reason I'm not all torn up about it. I had a TV Out for my PSP, it was one of the most abysmal playing experiences I've ever had. That meter of cable gets taken up fast and you're still playing on your TV with a portable, there's a mindshare confliction, and it's uncomfortable. I wonder how it would've impacted VTV sales. I think it would've resulted in a lot of, why get a VTV when I "could" get a Vita and a cable. Resulting in a lot of non-action.Vita devkits have HDMI out.
[minus the Rev3 logo]
:)
I wouldn't expect to play games in any enjoyable way at the airport or at your local café anytime soon though
I am guessing as my ps4 will be in my loft man cave and I'm mostly going to be playing remotely two floors down that I will have to go via my router on the middle floor rather than directly between the consoles. Hopefully that doesn't increase the lag too much.
Yes a Router would likely be the better connection in that case, the Lag should still be fine for the Majority of games.Great thread.
I am guessing as my ps4 will be in my loft man cave and I'm mostly going to be playing remotely two floors down that I will have to go via my router on the middle floor rather than directly between the consoles. Hopefully that doesn't increase the lag too much.
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